Yosuga no Sora | In Solitude, Where We are Least Alone [Collections]

[Soryon]

and BTW just IMO the "tits" shown here werent really. . .fanservice. . .i dont know at leats it didnt feel that way to me . . .it was just like your regular bath scene (wasnt even ecchi IIRC) and the girl is thinking and well. . .shes in the bath, id rather see that she is a normal human being with nipples instead of some weird drawing that has no nipples. (i dont mind the excess steam in this type of shows either)

I didn't expect Gogeta to mention this first, heh.
It's a pretty fucking serious show that sure as hell isn't going to be all about platonic love. Not hiding nudity is perfectly fine.
Nudity does not equal fanservice.

Na, I get what you mean.
I don't think simply showing a female nipple automatically equates to fan-service. I do think, however, that a scene that is nothing but a close up of a girls boobs can be construed as anything else.

[erious]

The bath scene was there to show the girl reflecting on her meeting with Haruka, because when you take a bath you tend to think about what happened during the day.
And guess what, when you take a bath, you do it naked. Yes, that's right - people get naked in real life! Unthinkable, I know.
You can show nudity in fiction, even if it isn't necessary for the story without it being fanservice - that's how real life goes. Going out of your way to avoid it is unnatural, and isn't something you should do unless you're targeting your work for younger audiences, or have to conform to obscenity laws. And guess what? People masturbate in real life as well. People have sex in real life as well. Does every work of fiction that depicts sex without directly relating it to the story have fanservice? Hell no. And anyway, from what I know, sex and lust do have a part in the story of Yosuga no Sora.
I don't know where this prejudice against sexual matters in anime comes from - sex is part of life. And a part of fiction as well. I don't know, maybe you didn't have much experience with works touching those subjects, maybe you've grown up in environment that still holds sex as something dirty.
But if you can't view a naked body without thinking about it only as pornography, then maybe you need to grow up a little.

[Soryon]

sigh, again you have missed the point.
I was set out to simply say that I believe it detracts from the story as it is unnecessary. You can depict actions with out showing them.
You are right, people do get naked in the bath, they also masturbate and have sex. NOW, tell me a good reason to include it in detail in an animated work (or 3d, for that matter) if its not to titillate a portion of the viewers.
I dont see it as pornography or obscene. I have seen plenty of it in my life. Just becuz its something that actually happens isnt a good enuf reason in my personal point of view to go out of your way to show it.
Such as having a 3 second scene that shows absolutely nothing but a bare pair of boobs. Its no longer showing her reflect, its showing tits.

Whatever, its pointless to debate opinions. I will abstain from any further conversation regarding this topic.

[lStealtherl]

Almost all nudity in this show I percieve as fanservice as well. Doesn't do much except to excite the viewer. The ending with all characters lying in different positions showing all kinds of pants/stockings/boobs/bras is particularly obvious.

[erious]

I have yet to understand how a 3 seconds long shot of breasts could possibly detract from the story, unless you, personally, are for some reason bothered by nudity and pay needless attention to it - but hey, if you're going to throw in the towel lets leave it at that.

The ending with all characters lying in different positions showing all kinds of pants/stockings/boobs/bras is particularly obvious.

Now, I'd agree with - at least with calling that fanservice. But it still isn't a negative thing in any way imaginable.

Keep in mind that this comes from someone whose reaction to actual, full blown fanservice is usually "Heh, panties", not "OMG panties brb fapping" - and that's what I think is the reaction of everyone, save few teenagers in puberty, who actually enjoys fanservice - the ones treating fanservice as some kind of softcore pornography are the ones who loudest oppose it.

[Havoc10K]

why can't people these days just enjoy a show without pointing out boobs, doesn't that distract you from the main point of the show ?

when i watch a show, i just think on what happens, not seeing boobs or seeing them doesn't affect me one bit, doesn't matter to me if there are nipples or not, the scene, as erious proven, shown a girl sitting in the bath tub, thinking what transpired on that day, there was actually nothing else on my mind on that scene, I did see the boobs, so what ? all humans have tits, and all female breasts are supposed to attract attention, every guy will see a naked chest of a female, nothing out of ordinary, but when I watch anime, fan-service is the least of my worries, I gotta read this >_<!
who cares about nipples !

[Tatsujin]

If you don't like tits, ass, thighs, lots of skin and heavy ecchi then just stop watching those sorts of series. I mean, there were some series I recall that ruined it for me when it showed all sorts of Ecchi but then over the months I got over it and got used to it. It is Anime after all. Expect the unexpected.

[Havoc10K]

I don't expect much from echii anime, I just watch and enjoy
thats what it was made for enjoyment

[tomoya-kun]

It's going to have a harem ending for sure.  Or the sister will go on a killing spree

[Tatsujin]

It's going to have a harem ending for sure.  Or the sister will go on a killing spree

... S..sss ..s s.. sSchoool Dayyss -faints-

[tomoya-kun]

It's going to have a harem ending for sure.  Or the sister will go on a killing spree

... S..sss ..s s.. sSchoool Dayyss -faints-

Caught the obvious reference

[Havoc10K]

I just read on ANN about the DVD vs BluRays releases ...

I think all groups will simply skip the DVDs, the BDs will have a lot of extra episodes

totaling the series (12 eps) + extras (specials) to even 16 episodes total.

i so wonder if those won't be additional routes in short...

[tomoya-kun]

I just read on ANN about the DVD vs BluRays releases ...

I think all groups will simply skip the DVDs, the BDs will have a lot of extra episodes

totaling the series (12 eps) + extras (specials) to even 16 episodes total.

i so wonder if those won't be additional routes in short...

4 Episodes?  Definitely alternate ending or, as you said, additional routes.  Or they could just be random specials

[kenshin-dono]

What sets it apart so far is that it's really well done, as opposed to the vast majority of harem shows.
As far as I know the anime is going to follow Sora's route, and that means incest end.
Something bad happened in the past - well yeah, their parents died, that's why they live alone now. But I'm more curious about how their relationship developed from the past, whether what we saw in the flashbacks was just a kid fooling around, or something more serious.
I do actually have a pretty solid theory, and I could ask people I know who've played the game whether it's correct - but I like the show enough to just watch it instead of getting spoiled.

huh. Still sounds a bit generic. I guess how good it is will rely on how seriously it aproches the relationship between the siblings and their past. IT could either get pretty deep and touching, or turn into a generic ecchi show with incest to cover all its pervert fanbase options =P  Im not clear btw,  was this based on some Hentai game or something? Im not sure what a visual novel really is since i never got into those. I think some can be hentai, and some can just be a kinda choose your own adventure story, right?  I glanced at the wiki for this but it doesn't seem clear. You mention 'Sora's route' so it sounds like it to me, dunno though. I may check this out after a few epps are released and i see a group to try. Outa curiosity what group are most of you getting? i see an UTW-Ryu colaboration and im not that big a fan of ryuumaru. Also Okawari who i've never heard of

And I am pretty sure everyone could guess the basic outline and how the sister feels about her brother. Regardless, I am not a fan of incest in my anime. So whether "it's in my face" or not matters very little. But, once again as I stated, I can live past that and objectively view the rest of the show. So that wasn't very insightful one bit.

*snip*
Let me rephrase it so it's easier for you to understand...

This show has the potential to go overboard with the fanservice and T&A and I hope it does not go down that road and keeps a balance.

thats gonna be a question ill wait on too. If this will turn into some T&A harem fest, fall into a bunch of creepy incest scenes, or if it will have a deeper kinda sad story about the twins. I'll probably either peek in from time to time on this thread or just d.load the first few epps and see in a couple weeks. Im already watching my little sister cant possibly be this cute so i may hit my incest max on that one =P Though from what ive seen in it and the manga so far its nothing heavy.

Eseuldor, i didn't mean to anger you, but you guys always mention how echii is bothering you and "in your face" instead of just telling what you did like in the show you go one what you didn't, that is why I wrote that, see whenever there is a new episode of a new show that has echii, the first thing you rant about is how echii it is, without even looking at whats beyond the echii, I'm referring to everyone here on the boards, you guys have an incredibly huge grudge on echii and just instead of commenting on the show itself, you rant on echii, as if there was nothing else, so excuse me if I angered you.

i think his problem, and one ive been having with anime lately, is that it seems like thats all a lot of shows focus on now adays. It seems to be a cheap and easy way to draw an audiecne for some reason, and i've seen it ruin several shows i could have liked a lot more (HOTD comes to mind) A little T&A is ok in a show thats geared for it, but its reaching really distracting levels in a lot of shows these days. I dont know if this show is one of them though. SHows that are all about ecchi or whatever are fine if you want that, but it sucks if a show with potential degrades into some 13 year olds wank fest

[Eseuldor]

Eseuldor, i didn't mean to anger you, but you guys always mention how echii is bothering you and "in your face" instead of just telling what you did like in the show you go one what you didn't, that is why I wrote that, see whenever there is a new episode of a new show that has echii, the first thing you rant about is how echii it is, without even looking at whats beyond the echii, I'm referring to everyone here on the boards, you guys have an incredibly huge grudge on echii and just instead of commenting on the show itself, you rant on echii, as if there was nothing else, so excuse me if I angered you.

i think his problem, and one ive been having with anime lately, is that it seems like thats all a lot of shows focus on now adays. It seems to be a cheap and easy way to draw an audiecne for some reason, and i've seen it ruin several shows i could have liked a lot more (HOTD comes to mind) A little T&A is ok in a show thats geared for it, but its reaching really distracting levels in a lot of shows these days. I dont know if this show is one of them though. SHows that are all about ecchi or whatever are fine if you want that, but it sucks if a show with potential degrades into some 13 year olds wank fest

Might wanna keep that to yourself kenshin. According to a certain someones pm's your not supposed to think about what "may" possibly happen and what "may" possibly make you dislike a particular show. This applies even if you currently like the show. Your just "supposed" to watch it without questioning anything and not voice your own personal "opinion".

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[lStealtherl]

Considering the original work's purpose is to excite the viewer (at least to some degree), you could argue if it's fanservice or not, since it's actually coherent with the original purpose and story. It's still just a matter of definition, and ultimately boils down to your preference and taste.

Like the maid having fun with herself. It might be fanservice or not, but I found it unnecessary, and therefore I didn't like it (it might prove different in the future, but I doubt it). Only the effect is important in cases like this, not classification. Although my biggest qualm with this show isn't the fanservice, but I find the other areas lacking as well, so far. Too many different stereotypes that all like him, even if they had some past encounters. I'm not much for the unoriginal premise, and I cannot say I'm impressed by writing either. Only thing that feels interesting for me so far is actually the relationship between him and his sister.

Although this is coming from someone that wasn't particularly impressed by Clannad. However, I did like After Story very much.

[newy]

Eseuldor, ignore Havoc...

[Havoc10K]

Eseuldor, i didn't mean to anger you, but you guys always mention how echii is bothering you and "in your face" instead of just telling what you did like in the show you go one what you didn't, that is why I wrote that, see whenever there is a new episode of a new show that has echii, the first thing you rant about is how echii it is, without even looking at whats beyond the echii, I'm referring to everyone here on the boards, you guys have an incredibly huge grudge on echii and just instead of commenting on the show itself, you rant on echii, as if there was nothing else, so excuse me if I angered you.

i think his problem, and one ive been having with anime lately, is that it seems like thats all a lot of shows focus on now adays. It seems to be a cheap and easy way to draw an audiecne for some reason, and i've seen it ruin several shows i could have liked a lot more (HOTD comes to mind) A little T&A is ok in a show thats geared for it, but its reaching really distracting levels in a lot of shows these days. I dont know if this show is one of them though. SHows that are all about ecchi or whatever are fine if you want that, but it sucks if a show with potential degrades into some 13 year olds wank fest

Might wanna keep that to yourself kenshin. According to a certain someones pm's your not supposed to think about what "may" possibly happen and what "may" possibly make you dislike a particular show. This applies even if you currently like the show. Your just "supposed" to watch it without questioning anything and not voice your own personal "opinion".

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you took my pm the wrong way, doubt you even read it with the reply you sent me.

Eseuldor, ignore Havoc...

just like you do, know that I am not the only one that interpreted eseuldors reply the wrong way, I tried to clear it up with him over PMs but he called my a retard instead.

[donald1]

which subgroup should i go with on this anime? did anyone do uncensored eps?

[tomoya-kun]

which subgroup should i go with on this anime? did anyone do uncensored eps?

There is no censoring?