Anime Karaoke?

[dakarv]

Is it just me or is Karaoke for the OP/ED of an anime the most useless thing ever?

Do people actually watch the an opening lots of times/sing along to the Japanese words? Can't you just listen to what's being sung
I skip most opening unless its a good song then I'll listen to it a few times but why do I need the timing for the sylables of the words?

Seems people complain if a torrent doesn't have this/ groups take a lot longer with release because of it WHY?

[Tatsujin]

Is it just me or is Karaoke for the OP/ED of an anime the most useless thing ever?

Do people actually watch the an opening lots of times/sing along to the Japanese words? Can't you just listen to what's being sung
I skip most opening unless its a good song then I'll listen to it a few times but why do I need the timing for the sylables of the words?

Seems people complain if a torrent doesn't have this/ groups take a lot longer with release because of it WHY?

I do. I like it. With Karaoke font effects it adds a flavor to it. I didn't enjoy watching them long long ago. But now I just watch the beginning and ending.

[Soryon]

I dont get what the big deal is.
Some people like them you so may as well include them.
You know as soon as some group stops doing it people will complain, so..


Tho I would prefer for them all to be left out and simply have separate files for the OP and ED, but eh.

[Scudworth]

I don't like it when they have the Karaoke in romaji.
What I'm whating now they sub the Karaoke in english in the bottom of the screen and romaji in the top.
I can hear what they're saying already. They should do it in kana. (a few groups do and it's better)

[dakarv]

If i knew what romaji and kana were then i might have something to say 

Nah I guess one is Japanese written by sound in English and one is Japanese writing?

I can see why English karaoke would be useful as you could see sort of how the sentence is playing out, although surly they construct their sentences different so there wouldn't be a very good translation between the two
 

[halfelite]

I view 95% of my anime through a popcorn hour and we had ass/ssa karaoke effects disabled since it would lag the video stream so i dont care to watch them either.

[Sosseres]

If i knew what romaji and kana were then i might have something to say 

Nah I guess one is Japanese written by sound in English and one is Japanese writing?

Romanji is Japanese written with English letters. Kana is a simple way to write in Japanese. Since it is a sub the romanji makes more sense, the majority of the viewers can't read Kana or they would be watching it raw instead of waiting on subs.

[Xiong Chiamiov]

I agree with LordBrian.

[donald1]

i would like to see the OP have subs too....at least for the first ep. then we can have the best of both worlds. after the first ep, the subbers could leave it out for the rest of the series. i DO like to watch the OP sometimes if its good like Mitsudomoe, and if i like the song, i would like to know what its about.

[datora]

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Is it just me or is Karaoke for the OP/ED of an anime the most useless thing ever?

It's just you.   


Actually, I really appreciate it.  Even in my native language (English) I sometimes have difficulty hearing every word of dialogue or lyrics, especially when there's background noises/sound effects &/or people are not speaking clearly (or are speaking 'in-character' in some dialect of Mumble).

In the case of ramanji ( ), I like to be able to follow the syllables along and try to get a better sense of where word breaks are, as well as being able to visually verify what the sounds are that I'm supposed to be hearing.  Will it teach me Japanese?  Certainly not.  Does it help me develop a better sense of the heard language?  Definitely.  No matter what language I'm listening to, even if my vocabulary is stunted, I'm always trying to pick out recognizable word- and grammar-forms ... which is the first step toward vocabulary building.

I'm very happy when I have the karaoke, not only for OP & ED, but also when there are songs during the feature.  Do I wish I had more control over displaying it ..?  Yep.  I also am happy when I see subs & karaoke available with creative options.  It sure would be nice to be able to enable/disable multiple subs, such as: main dialogue subs on/off, karaoke on/off, and/or signs & background chatter subs on/off ... any combination of those three at any time would be a nice option to have control over.

In addition to being able to modify the font & color & placement for each.

Hell, I'd love to be able to turn kanji on and off in combination with romanji; I could be using a good portion of my anime-watching time to also build my reading vocabulary.  It would be yet more amazing if there was another sub-stream where the very literal English translation of word forms followed along with kanji & romanji streams.  No, I wouldn't want them all on simultaneously all the time, but having the options would be an awesome language tool.

I'm sure it'll be possible some day, and having extra karaoke & signs 'always on' with my subs doesn't annoy me enough to get all that upset with it.

[Enzedder]

I appreciate a good karaoke. I remember when I first started watching anime I often thought that the karaoke was part of some series it was that well merged with the video. I do however like it better if it is a single external file.

I don't think a karaoke needs to be there and there are some groups that attempt it and fail badly however there are some that do it and do it well and for that I definitely enjoy the extra effort they go to just to do it. No sub should be judged based purely off it.

[Xiong Chiamiov]

Actually, I really appreciate it.  Even in my native language (English) I sometimes have difficulty hearing every word of dialogue or lyrics, especially when there's background noises/sound effects &/or people are not speaking clearly (or are speaking 'in-character' in some dialect of Mumble).

Sure, but song lyrics are hardly important to the plot.  Most of the time they don't even make any sense.

That being said, I'm of the belief that they should be translated just like the rest of the show, but I honestly don't notice them when they're gone, except in the case of a particularly lulzy song that I like to sing (parts) along with to annoy my housemates, like Umineko's ED.  ALL DEE-ZY-ER!!! [silence] SAC-RIFICING TO GAHH!!!

[Enzedder]

... You do that too!?!? >_>

[vuzedome]

I agree with LordBrian.

Don't we all?
I guess I'll hold back from doing the usual.

[datora]

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Actually, I really appreciate it.  Even in my native language (English) I sometimes have difficulty hearing every word of dialogue or lyrics, especially when there's background noises/sound effects &/or people are not speaking clearly (or are speaking 'in-character' in some dialect of Mumble).

Sure, but song lyrics are hardly important to the plot.  Most of the time they don't even make any sense.

Oh, it's not entirely about the plot.  Often, it's for the pure poetry of it.  When I'm immersing myself in an anime, this sort of transitions me into listening to another tongue.  I love the flow of sounds; having a visual cue to help break out the words also helps me recognize them when they are spoken later in the dialogue.  It's a similar game (for me) to solving a crossword puzzle.  I pick up bits & pieces & clues from everywhere and then rely on my memory & processing power to assemble them, partially, into other insights to help the overall experience be richer.

Like I mentioned before, I'd be pretty jazzed to have a stream of romanji & literal Eng subs running simultaneously.  I'd probably be semi-fluent in Japanese by now if that option were available.  "No, dear.  I am NOT watching cartoons!  I am studying Japanese.  Now cut me some sushi, and I'd like tea with that.  Thank you."

 

[dakarv]

Don't get me wrong I enjoy a lot of openings  (not so many ending) but wouldn't want any removed from the files, I also think they should be subbed (hmm actually sometimes the lyrics sound stupid in english but its good to know the jist of the song) But for the actual karaoke I far prefer listening to the texture of the words rather than the way they are written down like any music lover would if it was in their own language. Also if your interested in learning japanese surly its far more importing to listen to the way they talk in the show and look at the english translation rather than music where words are timed/prounced differently to fit in with music

Btw did samurai champloo always have english opening coz that opening rocked   afro samurai also (not a massive samurai/hip-hop fanboy just two particularly good songs  ) and i assume we can all agree there is no point in karaoke if you can understand the words yourself?

I agree with LordBrian.

Don't we all?

In the famous words of lord brian
"God forbid you actually judge a release by something that actually matters, like, oh I dunno, the readability of the subtitles."

[Sosseres]

Actually, I really appreciate it.  Even in my native language (English) I sometimes have difficulty hearing every word of dialogue or lyrics, especially when there's background noises/sound effects &/or people are not speaking clearly (or are speaking 'in-character' in some dialect of Mumble).

Sure, but song lyrics are hardly important to the plot.  Most of the time they don't even make any sense.

In a few series they are. In the majority they are not. How about the case of a song being written for the anime in question, isn't it part of the experience to understand it, even if it makes no sense?

[Xiong Chiamiov]

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Actually, I really appreciate it.  Even in my native language (English) I sometimes have difficulty hearing every word of dialogue or lyrics, especially when there's background noises/sound effects &/or people are not speaking clearly (or are speaking 'in-character' in some dialect of Mumble).

Sure, but song lyrics are hardly important to the plot.  Most of the time they don't even make any sense.

Oh, it's not entirely about the plot.  Often, it's for the pure poetry of it.

That probably explains much of my view, considering that I see no value in the majority of poetry.

[1000mAh]

I will do my average...

I looove the Anime Karaokes I sometimes even sing along, if the song is good.
  I think they're needed.
 also they can teach you a bit of the language.

Over.