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Incest
tomoya-kun:
I'm most definitely normal
fohfoh:
--- Quote from: sdedalus83 on October 11, 2010, 10:38:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on October 11, 2010, 09:24:34 PM ---Well, skipping all the immature bullcrap the thread has derailed to...
Cousins don't particularly possess similar enough genetic material to be much of a concern. It's common practice in many cultures (and even desirable) for cousins to marry. [1] The further removed, obviously, the safer. First cousins are only about 2-3% more likely to pass on disease than a totally non-related couple, so you're pretty safe. If that's what floats your boat, go for it! ;)
--- End quote ---
Cousins-as-incest is a very recent development, spurred by the desire of nations to force integration upon immigrants and to make things more difficult for isolationist religious groups.
In a really close knit social group where marriage between cousins is common,congenital defects are far more likely than in a marriage between cousins in contemporary western society. It's even less of a risk now than when it was common and legal.
--- End quote ---
Really? Cousin incest has been a huge debate in China for quite some time. Lots of different "tribes" disagree with each other. My grandmother is from a tribe where 1st cousins are taboo, 2nd cousins are iffy, and frowned upon (generally not accepted) and 3rd and beyond is ok.
How do I know this? My grandmother likes to educate me on all sorts of things. Pretty damn smart for a lady 80 years old and never ever went to school. (She technically knows Cantonese and like 3-4 other dialects of Hakka). I assume the Hakka tribe requires 2+ cousins, whereas other tribes I've heard 1st cousins are ok.
Legally in China though, I have no idea. Though I assume 1st cousins are ok to appease many tribes and to resolve the fact... there's too many guys vs girls.
tomoya-kun:
--- Quote from: fohfoh on October 12, 2010, 05:25:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: sdedalus83 on October 11, 2010, 10:38:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on October 11, 2010, 09:24:34 PM ---Well, skipping all the immature bullcrap the thread has derailed to...
Cousins don't particularly possess similar enough genetic material to be much of a concern. It's common practice in many cultures (and even desirable) for cousins to marry. [1] The further removed, obviously, the safer. First cousins are only about 2-3% more likely to pass on disease than a totally non-related couple, so you're pretty safe. If that's what floats your boat, go for it! ;)
--- End quote ---
Cousins-as-incest is a very recent development, spurred by the desire of nations to force integration upon immigrants and to make things more difficult for isolationist religious groups.
In a really close knit social group where marriage between cousins is common,congenital defects are far more likely than in a marriage between cousins in contemporary western society. It's even less of a risk now than when it was common and legal.
--- End quote ---
Really? Cousin incest has been a huge debate in China for quite some time. Lots of different "tribes" disagree with each other. My grandmother is from a tribe where 1st cousins are taboo, 2nd cousins are iffy, and frowned upon (generally not accepted) and 3rd and beyond is ok.
How do I know this? My grandmother likes to educate me on all sorts of things. Pretty damn smart for a lady 80 years old and never ever went to school. (She technically knows Cantonese and like 3-4 other dialects of Hakka). I assume the Hakka tribe requires 2+ cousins, whereas other tribes I've heard 1st cousins are ok.
Legally in China though, I have no idea. Though I assume 1st cousins are ok to appease many tribes and to resolve the fact... there's too many guys vs girls.
--- End quote ---
Cantonese! You are my brother!
fohfoh:
--- Quote from: tomoya-kun on October 12, 2010, 05:33:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: fohfoh on October 12, 2010, 05:25:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: sdedalus83 on October 11, 2010, 10:38:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on October 11, 2010, 09:24:34 PM ---Well, skipping all the immature bullcrap the thread has derailed to...
Cousins don't particularly possess similar enough genetic material to be much of a concern. It's common practice in many cultures (and even desirable) for cousins to marry. [1] The further removed, obviously, the safer. First cousins are only about 2-3% more likely to pass on disease than a totally non-related couple, so you're pretty safe. If that's what floats your boat, go for it! ;)
--- End quote ---
Cousins-as-incest is a very recent development, spurred by the desire of nations to force integration upon immigrants and to make things more difficult for isolationist religious groups.
In a really close knit social group where marriage between cousins is common,congenital defects are far more likely than in a marriage between cousins in contemporary western society. It's even less of a risk now than when it was common and legal.
--- End quote ---
Really? Cousin incest has been a huge debate in China for quite some time. Lots of different "tribes" disagree with each other. My grandmother is from a tribe where 1st cousins are taboo, 2nd cousins are iffy, and frowned upon (generally not accepted) and 3rd and beyond is ok.
How do I know this? My grandmother likes to educate me on all sorts of things. Pretty damn smart for a lady 80 years old and never ever went to school. (She technically knows Cantonese and like 3-4 other dialects of Hakka). I assume the Hakka tribe requires 2+ cousins, whereas other tribes I've heard 1st cousins are ok.
Legally in China though, I have no idea. Though I assume 1st cousins are ok to appease many tribes and to resolve the fact... there's too many guys vs girls.
--- End quote ---
Cantonese! You are my brother!
--- End quote ---
Pfft. Only if the male side of your family is of the Hawklo (hawk people) descent. My grandmother is of the Hakka (guest people/family) descent.
Apparently my parents had to get past confucian incest. They had the same last name, but once the village of my mom's side was confirmed to be different, it was allowed.
tomoya-kun:
--- Quote from: fohfoh on October 12, 2010, 05:53:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: tomoya-kun on October 12, 2010, 05:33:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: fohfoh on October 12, 2010, 05:25:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: sdedalus83 on October 11, 2010, 10:38:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on October 11, 2010, 09:24:34 PM ---Well, skipping all the immature bullcrap the thread has derailed to...
Cousins don't particularly possess similar enough genetic material to be much of a concern. It's common practice in many cultures (and even desirable) for cousins to marry. [1] The further removed, obviously, the safer. First cousins are only about 2-3% more likely to pass on disease than a totally non-related couple, so you're pretty safe. If that's what floats your boat, go for it! ;)
--- End quote ---
Cousins-as-incest is a very recent development, spurred by the desire of nations to force integration upon immigrants and to make things more difficult for isolationist religious groups.
In a really close knit social group where marriage between cousins is common,congenital defects are far more likely than in a marriage between cousins in contemporary western society. It's even less of a risk now than when it was common and legal.
--- End quote ---
Really? Cousin incest has been a huge debate in China for quite some time. Lots of different "tribes" disagree with each other. My grandmother is from a tribe where 1st cousins are taboo, 2nd cousins are iffy, and frowned upon (generally not accepted) and 3rd and beyond is ok.
How do I know this? My grandmother likes to educate me on all sorts of things. Pretty damn smart for a lady 80 years old and never ever went to school. (She technically knows Cantonese and like 3-4 other dialects of Hakka). I assume the Hakka tribe requires 2+ cousins, whereas other tribes I've heard 1st cousins are ok.
Legally in China though, I have no idea. Though I assume 1st cousins are ok to appease many tribes and to resolve the fact... there's too many guys vs girls.
--- End quote ---
Cantonese! You are my brother!
--- End quote ---
Pfft. Only if the male side of your family is of the Hawklo (hawk people) descent. My grandmother is of the Hakka (guest people/family) descent.
Apparently my parents had to get past confucian incest. They had the same last name, but once the village of my mom's side was confirmed to be different, it was allowed.
--- End quote ---
I'm of decent from somewhere in Guandong Province, and my grandparents lived in Hong Kong. Probably not your tribe, but your brother in spirit!
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