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Incest
datora:
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Fort anyone who missed it, there's an incest thread currently active in the Adult Section:
> Hentai Paradise > Incest Hentai !
A couple relevant comments there.
My take on it is that I have a very open mind. In teh Big Picture, my only serious concerns are:
1) NO child abuse/mind rape (parent-child, much older aunt/uncle-"too young" niece/nephew, etc.)
2) inbreeding and genetic considerations are critical and must be dealt with responsibly by all parties concerned
Outside of those guidelines, so long as the relationship is healthy and free of mental abuse (factors for any relationship), it's really none of my business and I wish anyone well who can find a loving partner. I even dated one of my own cousins for about a year once, and I've known a couple of brother-sister relationships over the years, which did no harm to anyone.
So, I guess I feel there are far more serious problems in the world to waste my time getting upset about. Pedophile priests and rapists and child molesters, for examples.
Garret02:
--- Quote from: flyawave on October 08, 2010, 02:38:27 PM ---lol, I know that, but what I meant was...
Although we are biologically animals, we have developed things etc and we superseded animals on an intellectual level
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So you're basically saying, that we are not animals because we are smarter, correct? Well, it doesn't make us not animals :P But enough of this offtop. It's not the topic for discussion about whether humans are animals or not so let's go back to the topic.
flyawave:
^ indeed
OT does anyone else think that if two siblings together that they become more "man and woman" then bro and sis?
Tiffanys:
--- Quote from: flyawave on October 08, 2010, 02:46:16 PM ---^ indeed
OT does anyone else think that if two siblings together that they become more "man and woman" then bro and sis?
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Well, I think that's up to them, isn't it?
ludwigrm:
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on October 08, 2010, 02:05:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 12:13:25 PM ---I think that incest in real world is something we shoudn't morally accept, first and foremost to protect the people who make incest. it's not only a social matter, it has do with istinct.
everyone feels instinctively repulsion toward parents/sibling under that point of view and when that does not happen and there is a sexual intercourse between very close relatives, then istinct makes other people say: "no. stay in line".
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Except, it has nothing to do with "instincts" at all. It's prejudice and closed mindedness passed onto us at a very young age from society.
Most people fear or even despise the thought of either being naked publicly or seeing certain other people in the nude publicly. Is this an instinct? No. No, it isn't. It's programmed into us by society. The same way most of society somehow believes boobies are bad.
In our natural state, we'd be perfectly fine going around stark naked (and obviously just seeing another naked creature doesn't "harm" us in any way). But, I think I've made my point. It's not instincts at all, it's influence from the society around us and what they tell us is "right" or "morally just." It has very little to do with ones own thoughts, it's just accepted because "that's how things are."
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 12:13:25 PM ---I also think that when someone feels attracted to, for istance, his sister, it does not mean that he his different from "normal" people, it only means that he is child-like, immature: those kind of people are probably afraid of the world and subconsciously think to the their sister as the woman they can have without going outside of the house. I think they like their sister because she is the only woman they think they can have. it happens to most children with siblings but it is something subconscious and usually disappears when they grow up. I heard of teenegers feeling attracted to sisters/brothers, they are probably just a bit immature.
Maybe there are exeptions, siblings who really really love each other without being mentally disturbed or just immature, but I don't know.
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I don't really agree with you here and I don't really feel it's right to judge people like that. I mean from your logic, you could say the exact same thing about same sex couples. "Oh, well they're just immature, mentally disturbed and sick." Yes, well... it's taken a long time, but as a society we're slowly overcoming that line of thinking. Unfortunately, most people are still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to incest, just like they were about homosexuality just a couple decades ago.
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 12:13:25 PM ---that being said, I'm for absolute freedom.... if two adults feel that need, although they're close relatives, then... well, do as you want, but it is morally wrong, it goes against nature.
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How does it go against nature? If you look in the animal Kingdom, most fathers will mate with their daughters (Lions, Wolves, just about every pack animal) and the strongest genetic material possible is passed on to the next generation. Of course, lions fight to the death and we don't quite exactly do that in our society. But as far as nature is concerned, it's a perfectly acceptable practice and quite common among the animal kingdom.
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I'm not an anthropoligist, nor a doctor, neither are you I suppose. So those are my stataments and there is no reason why yuo should suppose yours are so much more important than those of the other people...
You just say that it has to do with culture, not with istinct. You are an ignorant, because you don't even know what you are talking about. and you're just denying reality.
While homosexuality has always existed in every society, I don't know of any society where incest is a common thing and accepted, nor in the past, nor in the present if not for very particular reasons.
Egyptians? only royal family.
Among ancient Romans it was allowed between brothers and sisters, but as far as they were only "half siblings": they must not have to be the kids of the same mother. and they were accepted, not blessed.
In the Ancient Greece... well, they were totally against it, Sophocles even wrote a drama about it.
I know incest is quite common among lions, but for a practical reason: there are too few lions to procreate with only "strangers".
I also tried to give a psychological explanation of the thing, which you did not. you talk about kiss x sis: are you an idiot? they are not bloody related.
People who make incest, in my opinion, need a psychologist, because I think they do what they do only because they are a bit immature and afraid of the outside world.
I tried to explain my point, you just tried to go against me, not against my statements.
As far as I am ocncerned, two adult consenting people can fck who the hell they want, I just think it is wrong.
I don't know why are you taking that so seriously and I honestly don't care, you ignorant,.
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