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Incest
Tiffanys:
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 03:09:43 PM ---I'm not an anthropoligist, nor a doctor, neither are you I suppose.
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I am a Doctor, actually. A Geneticist, in fact. We're quite within my realm of expertise.
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--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 03:09:43 PM ---So those are my stataments and there is no reason why yuo should suppose yours are so much more important than those of the other people...
You just say that it has to do with culture, not with istinct. You are an ignorant, because you don't even know what you are talking about. and you're just denying reality.
While homosexuality has always existed in every society, I don't know of any society where incest is a common thing and accepted, nor in the past, nor in the present if not for very particular reasons.
Egyptians? only royal family.
Among ancient Romans it was allowed between brothers and sisters, but as far as they were only "half siblings": they must not have to be the kids of the same mother. and they were accepted, not blessed.
In the Ancient Greece... well, the were totally against it, Sophocles even wrote a drama against it.
I know incest is quite common among lions, but for a practical reason: there are two few lions to procreate with only "strangers".
I also tried to give a psychological explanation of the thing, which you did not. you talk about kiss x sis: are you an idiot? they are not bloody related.
People who make incest, in my opinion, need a psychologist, because I think they do what they do only because they are a bit immature and afraid of the outside world.
I tried to explain my point, you just tried to go against me, not against my statements.
I don't know why are you taking that so seriously and I honestly don't care, you ignorant,.
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As for the rest of your post, you ignored every point I made and went on to personally insult me repeatedly. You don't deserve a response. I can't help but feel your entire purpose here is solely to troll.
TightMuffin:
Personally, I'd never take part in an incestuous relationship myself, but I think that if it's between two consenting adults, nobody really has a right to criticize them.
Garret02:
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 03:09:43 PM ---I'm not an anthropoligist, nor a doctor, neither are you I suppose. So those are my stataments and there is no reason why yuo should suppose yours are so much more important than those of the other people...
You just say that it has to do with culture, not with istinct. You are an ignorant, because you don't even know what you are talking about. and you're just denying reality.
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I really like how people say one thing is wrong and then they do this exact same wrong thing :P
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 03:09:43 PM ---While homosexuality has always existed in every society, I don't know of any society where incest is a common thing and accepted, nor in the past, nor in the present if not for very particular reasons.
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Yeah, maybe this is why he did say it's a culture thing. You know IMO it would be really hard to achieve over 6 bilion population from let's say 10k base without A LOT of incest. It just isn't accepted in society. In past it was probably ONLY due to the retard children but nowdays we tend to overreact about everything and label something as "immoral". You know, morals depends on person in question AND times we live on. The fact that majority of people thinks something is moral or not doesn't mean it is indeed moral or not. In fact IMHO terms "moral" and "immoral" shouldn't be used at all, because it all depends on person in question. But our society (and democracy) operates on very stupid assumption that majority of people is wise/right.
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 03:09:43 PM ---People who make incest, in my opinion, need a psychologist, because I think they do what they do only because they are a bit immature and afraid of the outside world.
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Because sex is something we have to connect to emotions and feelings and psychological state?
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 03:09:43 PM ---I tried to explain my point, you just tried to go against me, not against my statements.
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Nope, I'm pretty sure he/she tried to explain to you why he/she disagrees with you. You know, that's how the discussions go. One person says one thing and other person tries to counter your arguments which he/she feels are wrong.
ludwigrm:
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on October 08, 2010, 03:22:18 PM ---
I am a Doctor, actually. A Geneticist, in fact. We're quite within my realm of expertise.
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--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 03:09:43 PM ---So those are my stataments and there is no reason why yuo should suppose yours are so much more important than those of the other people...
You just say that it has to do with culture, not with istinct. You are an ignorant, because you don't even know what you are talking about. and you're just denying reality.
While homosexuality has always existed in every society, I don't know of any society where incest is a common thing and accepted, nor in the past, nor in the present if not for very particular reasons.
Egyptians? only royal family.
Among ancient Romans it was allowed between brothers and sisters, but as far as they were only "half siblings": they must not have to be the kids of the same mother. and they were accepted, not blessed.
In the Ancient Greece... well, the were totally against it, Sophocles even wrote a drama against it.
I know incest is quite common among lions, but for a practical reason: there are two few lions to procreate with only "strangers".
I also tried to give a psychological explanation of the thing, which you did not. you talk about kiss x sis: are you an idiot? they are not bloody related.
People who make incest, in my opinion, need a psychologist, because I think they do what they do only because they are a bit immature and afraid of the outside world.
I tried to explain my point, you just tried to go against me, not against my statements.
I don't know why are you taking that so seriously and I honestly don't care, you ignorant,.
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As for the rest of your post, you ignored every point I made and went on to personally insult me repeatedly. You don't deserve a response. I can't help but feel your entire purpose here is solely to troll.
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troll? trolls don't make explanations...
I insulted you for the reason I said before. And I DID answer to EVERY SINGLE POINT (lions, ancient and present societies, kissxsis), unless I forgot something.
Are you a genetist? Since you are a genetist, when are you going to try to at least explain your theories? you DID NOT 'til now.
As for me, I'm graduated in Latin and Greek Literature, I read a lot of stories, I studied about a lot of ancient societies and I brought here my knowledge about it, while you just keep saying: "let them get laid with whom they want!".
TightMuffin:
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 03:50:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tiffanys on October 08, 2010, 03:22:18 PM ---
I am a Doctor, actually. A Geneticist, in fact. We're quite within my realm of expertise.
(click to show/hide)
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 08, 2010, 03:09:43 PM ---So those are my stataments and there is no reason why yuo should suppose yours are so much more important than those of the other people...
You just say that it has to do with culture, not with istinct. You are an ignorant, because you don't even know what you are talking about. and you're just denying reality.
While homosexuality has always existed in every society, I don't know of any society where incest is a common thing and accepted, nor in the past, nor in the present if not for very particular reasons.
Egyptians? only royal family.
Among ancient Romans it was allowed between brothers and sisters, but as far as they were only "half siblings": they must not have to be the kids of the same mother. and they were accepted, not blessed.
In the Ancient Greece... well, the were totally against it, Sophocles even wrote a drama against it.
I know incest is quite common among lions, but for a practical reason: there are two few lions to procreate with only "strangers".
I also tried to give a psychological explanation of the thing, which you did not. you talk about kiss x sis: are you an idiot? they are not bloody related.
People who make incest, in my opinion, need a psychologist, because I think they do what they do only because they are a bit immature and afraid of the outside world.
I tried to explain my point, you just tried to go against me, not against my statements.
I don't know why are you taking that so seriously and I honestly don't care, you ignorant,.
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As for the rest of your post, you ignored every point I made and went on to personally insult me repeatedly. You don't deserve a response. I can't help but feel your entire purpose here is solely to troll.
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troll? trolls don't make explanations...
I insulted you for the reason I said before. And I DID answer to EVERY SINGLE POINT (lions, ancient and present societies, kissxsis), unless I forgot something.
Are you a genetist? Since you are a genetist, when are you going to try to at least explain your theories? you DID NOT 'til now.
As for me, I'm graduated in Latin and Greek Literature, I read a lot of stories, I studied about a lot of ancient societies and I brought here my knowledge about it, while you just keep saying: "let them get laid with whom they want!".
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Huh? Since when are trolls not allowed to make explanations? I thought continuing the trollish argument for as long as it can reasonably continue, or as long as it remains amusing, is pretty much standard operating procedure for a troll. I guess there are those of the weaker variety that prefer a "fire and forget" approach, but that's kind of boring...
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