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Incest
TightMuffin:
Wise indeed...
Soulreaper77:
--- Quote from: TightMuffin on October 09, 2010, 12:30:07 AM ---But, by that same logic, shouldn't we also be sterilizing the mentally retarded, or the insane, or criminals, to keep these traits from spreading? A bunch of retards going around making more retards does just as much toward 'tarding up our planet as an incestuous couple.
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Because who says that that the mentally retarded reproducing with a normal stranger has equal chance to produce a retarded child as an incestuous couple? I don't know because I'm no geneticist. But I think most mental diseases come from 2 recessive genes and each parent passes only 1 to a child so if the mentally ill parent and the normal stranger do not have the same recessive gene then it's the same as any other couple. Even with two mentally retarded I think the chances are normal when they do not have the same disease. Whereas with an incestuous couple the chances are always the same if both are normal (i.e. only have 1 recessive gene).
And what the hell do criminals have to do with this? :/ Criminality isn't a trait passed through genes ... Well there is a chromosome combination that makes people more tempted to do forbidden things or something like that but I think that's a rare combination.
Garret02:
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 09, 2010, 12:50:43 AM ---well, it's not like a speech is shit just because you don't like it...
the only reason why my speech seems so strange is that it is entirely different from yours.
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Lol, either you need to learn how to read or change your attitude. Because it's normal to not agree with other so we discuss and accusing us of calling you a racist (WTF? where did that come from?) it's either you not knowing how to read or thinking that you are the only one that's right and anyone who disagrees with you is just delusional or something.
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 09, 2010, 12:50:43 AM ---1. I did not invent: my argumentations about "immature siblings" start from a very simple idea: even the strangest things have very pratical reasons as their basis. in this particular case, fear of the outside world. why is it to hard to accept?
"Immature" doesn't mean "monster". I always said "child-like" and "immoral" and only one time "disturbed", because in some cases
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Why is it hard? Well I personally call a bullshit on your thesis. You say that incest is strange and therefore need a psychological explanation. I disagree. There is hardly something more natural than sex...
--- Quote from: ludwigrm on October 09, 2010, 12:50:43 AM ---2. I think it is something instinctual and not cultural because, as I already told before, I don't know of any human group where it is commonly accepted. if it were cultural, then at least in some places it would have to be different, while, on the contrary, it is not as far as I know. How can a cultural concept develop in the very same way throughout the world, in all ages?
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Insinct does come with incest but only after the child is born. Look at other animals. If new member of thier pack is retarded they kill it or leave it by himself. They do not care until the retard is born. Now we, humans, inventet something very useless called morals or whatever. We do not think that killing retards is good hence we prohibited the most probable way of making retards. So prohibiting incest is cultural because just like other animals, we could just kill retards after they'll be born.
Carnivus:
My point of view on this one is a liberal one. Let 'em do what they want. Surely, and abusive father who rapes his daughter is something that should be punished, but if they both agree I don't see why not.
Most of you are judging people outside this perimeter named normal. Anything outside it, it's bad, morally, and to be honest, every other way. There were times when black people were slaves, and it was accepted by everyone. There was a time when the Earth was considered to be flat, and it was a known "fact" by everyone.
All I'm saying is that you take this all to seriously. Do what you want, and let other people do as they feel.
And cut Tiff some slack, she started this thread, not made it legal.
Havoc10K:
I PMed my full opinion to Tiffany, I'll say in short here to not poke around to much misunderstandings:
uncontrollable incest is bad for DNA.
Caution + sensitivity, and you can do what you want, if you ask me, that is a very short version, super short if you ask me, it's a lot more complex than you would initially think.
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