Discussion Forums > The Lounge
The General Art Thread
LillyTown:
--- Quote from: failboat on September 04, 2013, 06:23:52 AM ---Unless the piece is a study of some sort you shouldn't compare it with anything else, because "art" doesn't work like that.
Beyond theory and technicalities everything is subjective.
--- End quote ---
|
To me, art isn't so esoteric though. Not sure that's the right word but best I could come up with. Even though anime and manga bring me a lot of joy I categorize it as... inaccurate. It's my feeling that that's the point, to make the characters as attractive and charming as possible, beyond real human beings. I feel that accuracy and precision in copying your reference is what determines the quality of 'art', as far as drawing, painting, sculpture, etc go. Again, I *like* the Japanese style of art, I just don't feel it's the same sort of skill as I'm after. I aim to perfectly copy from reference, whether my reference is a screenshot from a cartoon or a live model. I should probably take a few pages from your book because you're clearly an awesome artist but my innate feelings are set in stone, built up over the years... *starts reciting Unlimited Bone Works*
Really though, isn't the way I think of things simple? I never have debates with people over whether manga artists are better than realist artists or impressionists and abstract(lolsnakeoil). I consider *skill* quantifiable; everything else is choice and creativity to me.
failboat:
Each to his own, but in the general study and practice of illustrative arts you still have to divide your judgement in to what can be objectively judged and your personal views and opinions.
Theory such as anatomy, values and what generally is required to know in order to be able to depict something life/photo-realistically is something you very well can judge and compare the "quality" of, but anything beyond is opinion. With that said, manga/anime is stylized to cater for the public which appreciates that "style" and generally has very little to do with accurate depiction and you should therefor not categorize it as anything but what it is.
LillyTown:
Indeed, if two works are pretty much equal in realism(say, most of Bouguereau's works) then the actual subject/'content' becomes important(I prefer Bouguereau's paintings of little girls). I guess it's sort of the opposite for me when it comes to the Japanese style, the content is what's most important. Even so-so looking images of impossibly cute girls are 9/10 for me.
I've an obsession with Shana-tan and the animation is probably so-so, the art style is far from realistic but that pic of her eating a giant melon pan and turning around is among my favorites in all the world. It's always a balance of art and subject and while I think the art isn't amazing by any means the subject is(to me).
On your closing points, I realise that they don't mean for it to be anything more than entertainment and a product. Still, I think the animators themselves(not necessarily the production company) likely think of their work as a fine 'art', an incredible feat, accomplishment, etc. I certainly think of it that way even though the way I write probably makes it sound like I 'look down' on it. I probably build it up to be more than it is out of desire for fictional characters(read: lolis) as I'd imagine a lot of people do.
Hmm, I did it again.... I don't know why I write so much and in such a confusing way, I'll try to work on my writing/English.
failboat:
doodle
megido-rev.M:
--- Quote from: failboat on September 21, 2013, 01:59:05 PM ---doodle
(click to show/hide)
--- End quote ---
I'd consider it above mere doodles.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version