Questions about monitor

[overkill373]

atm im using a LG lcd 1440x900 monitor for my comp

my questions are these:

since most of the vids i download are 720p/1280x720 and bluray and watch them fullscreen in mpc, if i bought a new 1440x900 monitor(but one of those thats says "HD ready") would there be any difference in quality at all?

Also, if i got a 1920x1080 monitor instead, would there be alot of quality loss when i watched 1280x720 vids compared to to the 1440x900 monitor?

[rostheferret]

If you're current monitor is connected via HDMI or DVI, then you should be getting HD resolution (it wont need to be downscaled to achieve the required resolution), though obviously not 1080p. I would expect there to be no difference, beyond an improvement in the quality of the monitor ofc.

As for getting full 1080p, it'd have to be upscaled a little more but the loss should again be minimal. Personally, I think a more important question is whether you'll notice the difference. Unless you plan on getting a 42" monitor or larger, I'd be surprised if you could tell the difference between a 1080p source and a 720p source from half a dozen feet, let alone a 720p source that's been upscaled.

[vuzedome]

Your 1440x900 will be displaying them with black bars on the top and bottom, obviously.
Going for a 1920x1080 will give an increase in viewing quality, be it 720p or 1080p video, over your 1440x900, you get a larger screen. 

Don't worry about how 720p will look on a 1920x1080, it'll still look good and a whole lot better than shitty upscaling of the video done through encoding.

If you're willing do dish out cash on a good 1920x1080 monitor, it will definitely be of good worth and not a waste of money.

[overkill373]

i went and bought a 1920x1080 monitor lol, impulse buying ftw

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS22PUZKFVHZA


got a question, is it normal that the top and botto  black bars are gone now? I dont get them at all when i put mpc in fullscreen mode



also lol, i cant believe all my 1080 playback issues are gone now including the audio skip and video lag <.< never tought the monitor had something to do with it

[tomoya-kun]

If you're current monitor is connected via HDMI or DVI, then you should be getting HD resolution (it wont need to be downscaled to achieve the required resolution), though obviously not 1080p. I would expect there to be no difference, beyond an improvement in the quality of the monitor ofc.

As for getting full 1080p, it'd have to be upscaled a little more but the loss should again be minimal. Personally, I think a more important question is whether you'll notice the difference. Unless you plan on getting a 42" monitor or larger, I'd be surprised if you could tell the difference between a 1080p source and a 720p source from half a dozen feet, let alone a 720p source that's been upscaled.

On my 27'' (2560x1440), the difference between 720 and 1080 is actually quite noticeable.  Lots of fuzzy details in the 720.

[pingryanime]

personally I tink 720p is more than HD enough, I mean honestly, aside from getting a bigger screen theres absolutley no difference...

[namaiki]

Make sure to use madVR, Haali's Renderer, or use BiCubic scaling with your favourite video renderer.

[datora]

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i went and bought a 1920x1080 monitor lol, impulse buying ftw

I was going to suggest you do that.  I've got a 1920x1080 and all my 720 video files look pretty glorious on it.  A bit humble by today's standards, but damned fine & I'd recommend it to anyone:

 - http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=320-0921

got a question, is it normal that the top and botto  black bars are gone now? I dont get them at all when i put mpc in fullscreen mode

Yes.  It depends on the aspect ratio of the video you are watching, of course.  But 1280 x 720 is 1.77778:1, as is 1920 x 1080.  So, the screen ratio matches exactly the video ratio.  If your video is, say (made up example), 1280 x 590 actual ratio, then you'll see black bars again.  Or, if you had bought a 1920 x 1200 monitor, you would have seen 60 pixel wide black bars at top & bottom.

all my 1080 playback issues are gone now including the audio skip and video lag

Interesting.  Maybe your CPU doesn't have to work so hard performing an odd resizing ..?

On my 27'' (2560x1440),

You teh suck.

 

Maybe one day my epeen will be so glorious ...  :'(

Make sure to use madVR, Haali's Renderer, or use BiCubic scaling with your favourite video renderer.

+1

The render settings for your playback are pretty critical.  Take some time to learn them ... sometimes you need to switch them around a bit depending on the individual encode of a file you have.  It can get pretty experimental at times; I know I don't know them all yet.

[tomoya-kun]

You would not BELIEVE how amazing a 27" LED is for watching anime! 

[datora]

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You would not BELIEVE how amazing a 27" LED is for watching anime! 

Did I mention that you are ...?

 

[Pentium100]

My 21" CRT with maximum resolution at 85Hz being 1920x1440 is quite good for anime too And I would not replace it with any LCD.

[overkill373]

Make sure to use madVR, Haali's Renderer, or use BiCubic scaling with your favourite video renderer.

well atm im using cccp, with pretty much default settings except for the flac thing and the mt option for multi core cpu, havent messed with the haali settings but seems fine



on another note goodbye little black bars, you've been with me for a long time and i will miss ya ( though after googling you im surprised that so many people seem to hate you and want to get rid of you o.o lol)

[rostheferret]

If you're current monitor is connected via HDMI or DVI, then you should be getting HD resolution (it wont need to be downscaled to achieve the required resolution), though obviously not 1080p. I would expect there to be no difference, beyond an improvement in the quality of the monitor ofc.

As for getting full 1080p, it'd have to be upscaled a little more but the loss should again be minimal. Personally, I think a more important question is whether you'll notice the difference. Unless you plan on getting a 42" monitor or larger, I'd be surprised if you could tell the difference between a 1080p source and a 720p source from half a dozen feet, let alone a 720p source that's been upscaled.

On my 27'' (2560x1440), the difference between 720 and 1080 is actually quite noticeable.  Lots of fuzzy details in the 720.

Fair enough. I can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on my 37" screen unless i'm within 5 feet :/ Then again, I only use 1080p resolution, see no point going higher; I expect the difference in your case is more to do with the degree of upscaling than anything else.

[vuzedome]

45" and 720p looks great.  Howeverif you're watching tv caps fansubs(currently airing) then 720p will look bad either way, but if you're watching BD rips then even 720p is good enough.

[Xiong Chiamiov]

I don't recall where I came across this lovely little graphic, but Engadget has a chart showing where higher resolution displays start to become useful.  It seems about right to me.

[tomoya-kun]

I don't recall where I came across this lovely little graphic, but Engadget has a chart showing where higher resolution displays start to become useful.  It seems about right to me.

It seems inaccurate at the smaller screen sizes, I can easily notice the difference between 480 and 720, the difference is huge.  Or maybe I read the graph wrong?

[rostheferret]

I don't recall where I came across this lovely little graphic, but Engadget has a chart showing where higher resolution displays start to become useful.  It seems about right to me.

It seems inaccurate at the smaller screen sizes, I can easily notice the difference between 480 and 720, the difference is huge.  Or maybe I read the graph wrong?

Perhaps you're really bad at estimating distances?

I remember seeing the chart as well when I was debating what screen size to get. Seems to be about right for my screen. I still reckon a lot of it is because your screen resolution.

[Aadieu]

Don't buy a monitor, buy an HDTV with Dsub=VGA or HDMI/DVI depending on what outs your vid card has.

WAY cheaper that way.