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would you want to be a cyborg
Proin Drakenzol:
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--- Quote from: Proin Drakenzol on October 19, 2010, 08:46:24 AM ---Yes. It is the next paradigm shift in human evolution.
I'd want to be a cyborg like the people in the Dahak trilogy (aka Empire From the Ashes). Bones replaced with battlesteel (super-strong alloy), muscles replaced with extra strong synthetics, eyes replaced with better optics, built in recording devices, built in camouflage, skin that can resist small and mediums arms fire. The ability to directly interface with computers via a faster than light communications device.
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sounds fammiliar
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No, not really. The Geth are the ultimate hive mind.
A cyborg able to access a computer via an implanted device is... a human able to access a computer, but better.
Havoc10K:
I meant the overall construction of the Geth is very close to what you described :)
digital communication, synthetic muscles, reinforced skeleton, etc, it's exactly what Quarrians built, although they were meant as cheap labor and army, also Geth are not a hive mind, the more of them the smarter they are, but they do not share mind, the cooperate in order to increase efficiency, a hive mind is a collective of everyone thinking the same thing,
in the Geth you will not find it, each of the program (that is how they speak of their minds) looks at things at it's own perspective, they have the individuality of a single program for each Geth, they communicate with each other and form a consensus, if the consensus is not met, they seek for a solution,
a Hive mind decides on anything as a whole, having no individual perspective, thus not seeing possible other options to find a solution other than the common solution hive societies have, which is conquer, absorb, expand, survive.
In the Mass Effect the Geth do seem like a Hive mind for others, but Tali explained it in details, also In Mass Effect 2 Legion also explains it in further detail, there is no one geth, they are all Geth, but each can look at everything from different perspective allowing for more options at hand, you should really play those games to understand it better, or read the books :)
Proin Drakenzol:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on October 19, 2010, 10:55:07 AM ---I meant the overall construction of the Geth is very close to what you described :)
digital communication, synthetic muscles, reinforced skeleton, etc, it's exactly what Quarrians built, although they were meant as cheap labor and army, also Geth are not a hive mind, the more of them the smarter they are, but they do not share mind, the cooperate in order to increase efficiency, a hive mind is a collective of everyone thinking the same thing,
in the Geth you will not find it, each of the program (that is how they speak of their minds) looks at things at it's own perspective, they have the individuality of a single program for each Geth, they communicate with each other and form a consensus, if the consensus is not met, they seek for a solution,
a Hive mind decides on anything as a whole, having no individual perspective, thus not seeing possible other options to find a solution other than the common solution hive societies have, which is conquer, absorb, expand, survive.
In the Mass Effect the Geth do seem like a Hive mind for others, but Tali explained it in details, also In Mass Effect 2 Legion also explains it in further detail, there is no one geth, they are all Geth, but each can look at everything from different perspective allowing for more options at hand, you should really play those games to understand it better, or read the books :)
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Fine, a Hive Democracy, then.
But as Sosseres pointed out, Weber's trilogy was published well before Mass Effect came out.
David Weber is my favorite author, btb.
Havoc10K:
--- Quote from: Proin Drakenzol on October 19, 2010, 11:15:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on October 19, 2010, 10:55:07 AM ---I meant the overall construction of the Geth is very close to what you described :)
digital communication, synthetic muscles, reinforced skeleton, etc, it's exactly what Quarrians built, although they were meant as cheap labor and army, also Geth are not a hive mind, the more of them the smarter they are, but they do not share mind, the cooperate in order to increase efficiency, a hive mind is a collective of everyone thinking the same thing,
in the Geth you will not find it, each of the program (that is how they speak of their minds) looks at things at it's own perspective, they have the individuality of a single program for each Geth, they communicate with each other and form a consensus, if the consensus is not met, they seek for a solution,
a Hive mind decides on anything as a whole, having no individual perspective, thus not seeing possible other options to find a solution other than the common solution hive societies have, which is conquer, absorb, expand, survive.
In the Mass Effect the Geth do seem like a Hive mind for others, but Tali explained it in details, also In Mass Effect 2 Legion also explains it in further detail, there is no one geth, they are all Geth, but each can look at everything from different perspective allowing for more options at hand, you should really play those games to understand it better, or read the books :)
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Fine, a Hive Democracy, then.
But as Sosseres pointed out, Weber's trilogy was published well before Mass Effect came out.
David Weber is my favorite author, btb.
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yet another misunderstanding, but probably also on my side, I did not read weber's trilogy, but the description he made was so familiar with the Geth, and they aren't a hive-like society at all
Micharus:
Sure, I'd like to be a Cyborg, that is to say use cybernetic addon's..... but only if I *had* to.
Just about the only thing I would like to have would be total recall, memory wise. That would be useful in so many ways.
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