Author Topic: Gigabit FTTH coming to Canada (Read 2301 times)

Freedom Kira · « **on:** October 22, 2010, 03:25:22 AM »

Whee, I'm excited! I didn't think it would ever happen, but it seems like Shaw has put in a gigabit fiber network into Vancouver and some area near Calgary, and offering gigabit service. So awesome. They even let them try out the service for free for six months.

Just a matter of time before they put the service into my area. Oh man.

Telus, the main competitor for Internet service, already has a fiber optic service, but it's at a measly 15 megabit, or 25 mb in some areas. Absolutely ridiculous.

Ever think about moving to Canada? The next few months would be a great time to.

fohfoh · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2010, 03:38:30 AM »

150 bucks for 100down/5up...

Yup, that's here.

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2010, 03:42:33 AM »

Not that one, that's Nitro, though it is fiber. =P
Check Shaw's site. They have a new one.

fohfoh · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2010, 03:45:04 AM »

Hmm... didn't notice that one.

dogsinafen · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:02:30 AM »

Wait what... a gig to home!?!

If that's the case I am fucking jealous.

The best speed you can get in NB is 70mbps down and 15mbps up with fibre using aliant. Rogers is the same download speed but shitty upload speed.
I wonder how long before Aliant offers 100mbps down and better upload... I don't see them offering gig connection to homes anytime soon. Even tho they have now a 100% fibre network in the province and offer fibre to home. I've read that the old NBtell network (now owned by aliant) was 10gbps backbone speed. Should be a lot faster now... but who knows.
I miss NBtell :'(

Now I want shawn here... better yet EastLink I like that company... something that is not owned by the big 3 ISP's.

I guess if I REALLY wanted a gig connection or faster with aliant I could get it with a dedicated connection... Only problem with that is it's very expensive >_>

Damn you all! Now I hope Aliant really kicks up the speeds they offer soon... They could offer fucking amazing speeds with ease with the new network the NB tax payers payed for.

Pentium100 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:06:42 AM »

Oh well, 200/200/80/80 d/u/d/u will be enough until the ISP decides to increase the speed

Not to mention that my current equipment can't handle much more than that. 3x700MHz has some limits.

tomoya-kun · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:32:01 AM »

Bell is the worst, I'm getting 5mpbs down and 0.3mbps up for 50$CAD month

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:45:18 AM »

I was wondering why I never heard of Aliant. Seems they only service the Atlantic provinces.

EastLink seems to offer similar services to Shaw. For both, the current fastest is 100/5. What's the pricing for EastLink? That's something they don't tell you right away. Shaw offers it for $150/month. Bundling is $10 off/month.

I looked into AllStream for a dedicated connection. For 10Mb symmetric, it was like $1716/month about a year ago. I wonder what it is now.

Tomoya - hope that's not satellite Internet. Satellite Internet is damn unreliable, and cuts out at least once every five minutes.

tomoya-kun · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:46:33 AM »

Quote from: Freedom Kira on October 22, 2010, 04:45:18 AM

I was wondering why I never heard of Aliant. Seems they only service the Atlantic provinces.

EastLink seems to offer similar services to Shaw. For both, the current fastest is 100/5. What's the pricing for EastLink? That's something they don't tell you right away. Shaw offers it for $150/month. Bundling is $10 off/month.

I looked into AllStream for a dedicated connection. For 10Mb symmetric, it was like $1716/month about a year ago. I wonder what it is now.

Tomoya - hope that's not satellite Internet. Satellite Internet is damn unreliable, and cuts out at least once every five minutes.

It's DSL. I still get disconnects and PPPOE login failures all the time.

fohfoh · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:46:39 AM »

They're also selling bandwidth soon in Canada... so expect some big expansions soon.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/technology/Wireless+industry+warns+traffic+more+smart+phones+tablet+computers/3665754/story.html

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:55:55 AM »

Quote from: tomoya-kun on October 22, 2010, 04:46:33 AM

It's DSL. I still get disconnects and PPPOE login failures all the time.

Sounds like Telus's High Speed. Absolutely terrible. I worked in a company once that uses Telus High Speed, and it cut out at least 3 times a week, sometimes for hours on end, and sometimes several times a day. I guess you get what you pay for.

I didn't realize the heavy stress that wireless companies get on their networks for mobile Internet, but I guess it makes sense when you think about it.

fohfoh · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2010, 05:08:45 AM »

With the recent new entrants to the cell market in western Canada... I can see things going wonky with usage. We also have some high levels of usage via post secondary institutions (Alberta has 4 universities alone, not counting Colleges. SAIT is a big player too) and we have a lot of corporate HQs here too, which add a bit here and there.

Phones...

Wind mobile is cheap, but their network sucks. Might improve though later on.
Koodo is a Telus spin off I think.
I dunno what happened to Virgin

Telus
Rogers
Fido (owned in different areas by Rogers and someone else I think)

Lots of entrants to the smart phone market.

I hear Shaw is hopping in sometime soon too.

dogsinafen · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2010, 05:32:35 AM »

Quote from: Freedom Kira on October 22, 2010, 04:45:18 AM

I was wondering why I never heard of Aliant. Seems they only service the Atlantic provinces.

EastLink seems to offer similar services to Shaw. For both, the current fastest is 100/5. What's the pricing for EastLink? That's something they don't tell you right away. Shaw offers it for $150/month. Bundling is $10 off/month.

I looked into AllStream for a dedicated connection. For 10Mb symmetric, it was like $1716/month about a year ago. I wonder what it is now.

Yeah Aliant only does the Atlanic region, now they are partly owned by Bell (yay

) but they've been great so fare. I think EastLink is around the same as all the other providers. I never used them since they only offer services in NS and the border town to NS in NB.

I contacted Aliant and for 20/20 connection dedicated line it would cost me around 1.4k a month, from what I've been reading online this is the normal price for the type of connection. I believe a 100/100 connection would cost me 9k a month. You would not be using a dedicated connection for home use, rather for a business. Great thing about Aliant is that they are friendly to businesses that require dedicated connections and that will use A LOT of BW. Hell, even a home connection they don't care how much BW you consume every month.

bloody000 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2010, 05:35:32 AM »

Quote from: fohfoh on October 22, 2010, 05:08:45 AM

With the recent new entrants to the cell market in western Canada... I can see things going wonky with usage. We also have some high levels of usage via post secondary institutions (Alberta has 4 universities alone, not counting Colleges. SAIT is a big player too) and we have a lot of corporate HQs here too, which add a bit here and there.

Phones...

Wind mobile is cheap, but their network sucks. Might improve though later on.
Koodo is a Telus spin off I think.
I dunno what happened to Virgin

Telus
Rogers
Fido (owned in different areas by Rogers and someone else I think)

Lots of entrants to the smart phone market.

I hear Shaw is hopping in sometime soon too.

Virgin is 100% owned by bell.

bloody000 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2010, 05:42:19 AM »

Quote from: Freedom Kira on October 22, 2010, 03:25:22 AM

Whee, I'm excited! I didn't think it would ever happen, but it seems like Shaw has put in a gigabit fiber network into Vancouver and some area near Calgary, and offering gigabit service. So awesome. They even let them try out the service for free for six months.

Just a matter of time before they put the service into my area. Oh man.

Telus, the main competitor for Internet service, already has a fiber optic service, but it's at a measly 15 megabit, or 25 mb in some areas. Absolutely ridiculous.

Ever think about moving to Canada? The next few months would be a great time to.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24787647-ALL-1-Gigabit-Internet-service-in-September-for-select-areas

fohfoh · « **Reply #15 on:** October 22, 2010, 05:57:53 AM »

Quote from: tomoya-kun on October 22, 2010, 04:32:01 AM

Bell is the worst, I'm getting 5mpbs down and 0.3mbps up for 50$CAD month

I think we're paying 44 CAD for 7.5/.75. Technically our package is for 5/.5 but being a long time member, we got a free upgrade. (Shaw btw)

Oh yeah, how could I forget about Bell?

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #16 on:** October 22, 2010, 06:50:37 AM »

Quote from: bloody000 on October 22, 2010, 05:42:19 AM

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24787647-ALL-1-Gigabit-Internet-service-in-September-for-select-areas

I don't think that's really such old news... I never noticed it before though, to be fair.
And yes, Shaw's had fiber in for a long time. That said, gigabit speeds is new. Their backbone is 33Gbps, according to a friend who got lucky enough to get onto the backbone once. Filled up a whole terabyte in a matter of a couple hours.
And like the "rusty" guy said, the problem with speeds these days is the lack of upload speed. Being a BBT member, I don't care as much about the down speed as the up speed.

Odd, though, that I haven't heard about Shaw doing this, being a Shaw customer in Edmonton. September was almost a full month ago.

Quote from: fohfoh on October 22, 2010, 05:57:53 AM

I think we're paying 44 CAD for 7.5/.75. Technically our package is for 5/.5 but being a long time member, we got a free upgrade. (Shaw btw)

Oh yeah, how could I forget about Bell?

We're getting 7.5/0.5 for $37 a month (normally $47 but it's bundled with phone). And yes that's Shaw. BTW I don't think Shaw offers a plan with 0.75 up.

And Bell sucks. Except for their satellite TV. =D

theprophet9 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 22, 2010, 08:05:10 AM »

I just laugh at this, the Australian Government over here is already rolling out the 1Gbps National Broadband Network to 93% of Australians, the rollout in the state of Tasmania is half-completed and has started construction in Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia with thousands of customers already connected. Australia beat Canada to a FTTH network

vuzedome · « **Reply #18 on:** October 22, 2010, 08:40:12 AM »

Great, now even Australia has it, and here we only got 25mbps max on Zone 1 coverage.

bloody000 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 22, 2010, 11:58:36 AM »

I'm paying 45CAD for 15/1 from Telus. Up time is excellent too, I can only recall one afternoon of DNS downtime.

And Telus doesn't monitor my bandwidth usage due to Telus TV also using ADSL2+.