Author Topic: Several problems playing on HD Media Player (Read 1891 times)

Shizumi · « **on:** October 23, 2010, 04:23:53 AM »

Not sure if this is the right section to post the topic.

Recently i have been transferring a lot of 720p/1080p animes to my HD Play!ON, 70% of the videos encounter some problem listed below

1.During the end of OP or 2-4min at the beginning of the video it keep rolling back the start
2.Either video or audio display as unknown

Is their any possible way to fix this?

Much of these are from Coalgirls though some like LvsB is fine

donald1 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2010, 04:27:29 AM »

did you update CCCP to the new ver.?

did you update MPC yet?

Shizumi · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2010, 04:29:37 AM »

It's a HD Media Player

Can't be updated with ccc

donald1 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2010, 04:38:22 AM »

oh, ok, i thought you meant Media Player Classic. misunderstanding lol.

some of the new anime is made with ordered chapters, maybe this this does not know what to do with shows like that. what kind of files is it supposed to play?

Shizumi · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2010, 04:41:43 AM »

Well brought it for all the anime i have so it accept MKV

donald1 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 23, 2010, 04:52:12 AM »

http://www.playonhd.com/en/#info

according to the things' website, it should work, but i dont see why you can't just use yur computer.

i know VLC has trouble with ordered chapters, maybe this this does too. other than that, i can't imagine why it's giving you trouble. i would call tech support or ask one of the guys at a Staples.

anyway, i thought the website might help, give it a look.

vuzedome · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2010, 05:39:17 AM »

They won't work on ordered chapters, until ACRyan does an update on it.

Shizumi · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2010, 01:29:20 PM »

What actually is ordered chapters?

HDD cam in today so i tried it out with Asus O!Play HD2 also got same problem, i had relook the video and it only rollback once then carry on the video but no repeative.

Are these video codec problem? as for the unknown is it possible to rewrite the video?

vuzedome · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2010, 07:57:31 PM »

So you mean it only repeats the opening once and it'll continue on as normal after that?

Shizumi · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2010, 11:05:28 PM »

Yes Some does while some repeat twice, 1 been resolve now only the 2 hasn't

vuzedome · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24, 2010, 04:51:14 AM »

As for number 2, usually it's because of unsupported video or audio, gimme a title for one of the videos giving the number 2 and another title that's actually working and we'll compare the difference to see what's causing this.

Shizumi · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2010, 05:54:47 AM »

Does 720/1080p make difference?

[UTW-TMD]_Summer_Wars_[BD][h264-1080p][TrueHD5.1][A861B448].mkv Audio unknown
[UTW-TMD]_Summer_Wars_[BD][h264-720p][DTS5.1][8C068083] Works

Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works [Coalgirls] Video unknown

Don't have the media player with me right now, do you want the mediainfo pasted too?

vuzedome · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2010, 06:51:01 AM »

Won't be needing mediainfo, but it be nice though.

The obvious difference between the Summer Wars video is the audio, and your device does not support TrueHD, which sadly is used for the 1080p.
Remux the video with the 720p audio, which is DTS and supported, and you'll be able to play it.

And for coalgirls' encode of UBW, the mediainfo would be handy here as I don't have coalgirs' version of this.

Shizumi · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2010, 12:28:08 AM »

Fate-Stay_Night

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Remux = extract the 720p audio and add in onto the 1080p?

TrueHD is Dolby TrueHD 7.1 right? i downloaded a sample from http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/high-definition-trailers.php to test it out which was working
and several topic i search in their forum said some board works
http://www.acryan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=8637&p=57106&hilit=truehd#p57106
http://www.acryan.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=8791&p=57216&hilit=truehd#p57216

About the video unknown i recently downloaded [Chihiro] Sekirei ~Pure Engagement~
all worked fine except for ep 4 for some reason

EP2

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EP4

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Sorry for messy text

donald1 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 25, 2010, 12:57:02 AM »

Quote from: Shizumi on October 23, 2010, 01:29:20 PM

What actually is ordered chapters?

HDD cam in today so i tried it out with Asus O!Play HD2 also got same problem, i had relook the video and it only rollback once then carry on the video but no repeative.

Are these video codec problem? as for the unknown is it possible to rewrite the video?

ordered chapters(found an explanation of sorts)

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Q: Why use ordered chapters?
A: Ordered chapters, when combined with MKV segment linking, provides an easy way to save a lot of diskspace and improve video quality for TV anime. This is not because ordered chapters compress video or anything. Instead, ordered chapters allows you to encode the opening and/or ending sequences of a series into a file of their own, and then have the OP/ED automagically inserted into each episode at the appropriate places. This saves space, because instead of encoding the OP/ED into every episode, they are only encoded once, so the main episode can be made smaller. It is particularly true because opening themes in particular tend to have a lot of high-motion content that doesn't compress very well. In some extreme cases I've seen, cutting out the OP of an episode reduced the filesize by about 25%.

Q: What do I need to do to get it working properly?
A: Not much. Install the CCCP, put the linked files together in one folder, play the main file (usually the episode itself, not the OP/ED), and it will look and behave just like an episode encoded in the standard fashion. If you've installed Haali's splitter separately, go to its settings, go to "input" and make sure "try to open linked files" is set to "yes".

Q: What about other players or operating systems?
A: Unfortunately this feature (which is a part of the MKV standard) is not yet implemented in any other splitters than Haali's. This means that if you try to watch linked files in (for example) MPlayer or VLC, they will just play whatever the file contains, without inserting content from other files.

Q: Can I rename the files?
A: Yes. The linking is done by something called a Segment Unique Identifier (SUID) and not by the filename, so feel free to rename the files. However, remuxing the file will change the SUID and hence break the linking, so don't do that.

Q: But that sucks, I want to change the subtitle font and remux!
A: Well actually I lied about "no remuxing", it can actually be done, just not with mkvmerge. Instead you will need to use Haali's GDSMux (comes with the CCCP as well as with the standalone splitter package). How to do it:
1) Use mkvinfo (comes with the mkvtoolnix package, if you have mkvmerge you have this) to find out the SUID of the file you want to remux. It should look something like this:

vuzedome · « **Reply #15 on:** October 25, 2010, 07:37:42 AM »

Yup, TrueHD is Dolby TrueHD.
I've browsed through the forums as well, so did you update your firmware? Just asking though.
But don't do it just yet if you haven't.

I heard one of the recent builds of mkvmerge is causing trouble for many, "header removal compression" starting with 4.1 build and enabled as default, I think most hardware playback devices such as yours won't be able to support this and thus causing the "video unknown" error, so I'm guessing coalgirls probably did not disable this.

So, to fix this problem, just remux the whole thing and remember to disable "header removal compression".

If you're interested, you can read about it here.

Shizumi · « **Reply #16 on:** October 25, 2010, 09:43:55 AM »

Updated a month ago, so basically i need to remake the video file unchecked header removal compression. Will give it a shot, thank both for helps

vuzedome · « **Reply #17 on:** October 25, 2010, 09:51:39 AM »

I'm interested in your results, do post them.

Shizumi · « **Reply #18 on:** October 25, 2010, 05:25:42 PM »

Seem it work fine!

Audio info are totally different

even though the sample say TrueHD
Summer Wars

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hd_dolby_bit_harvest_lossless.m2ts

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vuzedome · « **Reply #19 on:** October 25, 2010, 06:42:37 PM »

But I think there's a difference between the two.