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Re: Diablo III [9.9.2011]
« Reply #180 on: September 26, 2011, 12:37:07 AM »
EverQuest 2 has a market in which you can use real money to buy items.  Works fairly well as none of the items are game breaking that you can buy.  Instead they are just things that make life a little easier in the game world.  Or add a little zip to your characters looks.

Can't comment too much on how D3's is going to be setup as I know next to nothing about it, but as far as EQ2's market goes.  Its far from game breaking.  Just gives the casual gamer a little bit of a step towards the hardcore.
Check first post.
Read few posts back on youtube links.
Go to Youtube, search "Diablo 3 BETA" and look over the gameplay and features.

www.diablofans.com -- Fans following Diablo series and lots of discussions.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/ -- Official Site in English

Also, Hardcore will not support Real Money for AH.


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Re: Diablo III [9.9.2011]
« Reply #181 on: September 26, 2011, 01:26:48 AM »
Also, Hardcore will not support Real Money for AH.

O rly?

Looks like that's my only game mode that I'll be playing. lol

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Re: Diablo III [9.9.2011]
« Reply #182 on: September 26, 2011, 01:34:39 AM »
I will never ever play hardcore mode ever again.

To lose your character FOREVER because your connection freaked out for a second is an experience I will never forget.

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Re: Diablo III [9.9.2011]
« Reply #183 on: September 26, 2011, 02:28:39 AM »
I will never ever play hardcore mode ever again.

To lose your character FOREVER because your connection freaked out for a second is an experience I will never forget.

You just gotta be hardcore about it. That's why it's called hardcore. :P

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Re: Diablo III [9.9.2011]
« Reply #184 on: September 26, 2011, 05:39:14 AM »
I played hardcore on a modem, Think I never went above level 25, was still so much fun :)

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Re: Diablo III [9.9.2011]
« Reply #185 on: September 26, 2011, 10:26:42 AM »
My highest was a lvl 50-some Barbarian.  Losing him to a major lag spike in Ancients Way caused me to quit playing Diablo 2 for like a year.

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Re: Diablo III [9.9.2011]
« Reply #186 on: September 27, 2011, 12:24:57 AM »
I kind of meant i know next to nothing about this real money market place for D3, not that I knew next to nothing about D3 as a whole.  My bad for poor wording I suppose?  :o

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Re: Diablo III [9.9.2011]
« Reply #187 on: October 30, 2011, 08:41:34 AM »


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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #188 on: October 30, 2011, 10:09:49 AM »
I been watching that vid there, the game is so much like torchlight, even the double skill swap.
What was bugging me in that vid is that dude wizard kept his 1 armor cloth chest piece lol.

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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #189 on: October 30, 2011, 02:40:12 PM »
I been watching that vid there, the game is so much like torchlight, even the double skill swap.
What was bugging me in that vid is that dude wizard kept his 1 armor cloth chest piece lol.
Torchlight? ... Keep that silly game away please. I don't want to read or even hear about it.


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SHMiablo III not Diablo-verse
« Reply #190 on: October 30, 2011, 03:10:43 PM »
Well, I been watching some vids from gameplay on beta and all I can say it'e working pretty much like torchlight did, everything simplified to the minimum, very little skills. I'm not saying this is a torchlight copy, since that is a clone of Diablo-verse anyways, I'm just pointing out that Blizzard took a lot of ideas from there, and from Dungeon Siege 3. If you played both games you will know which parts of Diablo 3 are an idea taken from those.

I know that Diablo 3 was in the works probably longer than both those games, but taking into account how similar the gameplay of Torchlight (developed by old Blizzard north if I am not mistaken staff which makes it logical) and Dungeon Siege 3 is to what we now can see clearly from videos of Diablo 3 I don't know anymore where the clone starts and where the original begins.

The greatness of Diablo was the ability to make characters of different builds with many useful skills. Diablo 3 gives very few skills (10 per class like Torchlight that had I think 12 and Dungeon siege that had around 12 if I am not mistaken)

I will miss making 3 Spellcasters of different build designed specifically for certain purposes. Lightning Sorceress was very good in a party as support and backup, as well as an excellent adversary against players and heavy bosses.
Frost was excellent at crowd control (frost slows down enemies) and taking out a lot of enemies very quickly.
Fire was good at ... pretty much anything else, excellent DPS and fire enchant on party members was always great.

In a single video I saw a wizard taking on everything with pretty much only magic missile and frost nova, you can do pretty much a lot of fighting with just that. Mana recovery was hilariously fast, I don't think I seen that wizard go out of mana even against at least 15 enemies, which is pretty much sick. I do hope this will be resolved as I don't want an endless mana pool. The only build enhancement I can see is with the runes but that will only balance your chances against tougher enemies so there really is no real build selection, it all depends on your skills that will be enhanced with runes, other than that you are not going to do anything elaborate like making a frost mage tha twas so strong at higher level that it's sickening. The only limit will be how well you can gear your wizard.

I don't like this aspect and the first looks at gameplay are not to my liking. In a group of several players if there are 2 wizards it will be very likely the party already will be overpowered so I hope the command /players 8 will be in the multiplayer game and working.

I'll sure play this game, Very unlikely I will replay it. Torchlight was good as reminiscence of old Diable feeling, but it was very limited in abilities, Dungeon Siege that I got used to having several mages or swordsmans and whatnot in DS1 and DS2 has also disappointed me with very limited character development. In earlier games I could make my heroes who were originally mages or fighters to reverse their occupations and that was a lot of fun.

I'm afraid we have entered the age of games that are directed only to good looks, maybe some good story, but gameplay is going downhills. Sure the game engine looks great, but I can't do what I used to be able to, enjoy the Diablo-verse as it was, combat wise I could do a lot of different stuff, currently, my options are very limited.

I don't like where the game industry is going, but this is an excellent example of why there are so few very interesting games on the market.

I keep playing old games that are interesting, going back to PSX and Snes very often, why ? because the game industry doesn't give a fucking effort. Even WoW started to get less and less spells and abilities, with every major patch or expansion there are fewer spells to use, even though a lot of people are against it because their favorite fun spells are being kicked out.

Visual Appeal is not entertainment.

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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #191 on: October 30, 2011, 04:48:01 PM »
I can't read everything you wrote, but I did read one part about the Wizard taking on everything. Just so you know and for everyone else for the matter, that's a Normal difficulty, it is obvious enough to blast through it with little effort. Nightmare, Hell and especially Inferno modes will be more difficult and challenging. Keep yourself updated with what Blizzard announces on D3.

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Edit -- Keep Torchlight discussions in its own thread and don't try to compare it to D3. They're both on different levels, the gap is very large.


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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #192 on: October 30, 2011, 04:51:38 PM »
That's not the case here tats, if you read what  I wrote you would know why I dislike this skill setup. It's not because it's easy, but very limiting players desire to customize a character.

Also, 3 types of look on armor design, not very interesting in that point, Torch light had the same limit, although it was 4 types not 3, DS3 has I think 4 as well.

Also another limitation is game not supporting mods, how lame can that be ?

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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #193 on: October 31, 2011, 05:00:22 AM »
That's not the case here tats, if you read what  I wrote you would know why I dislike this skill setup. It's not because it's easy, but very limiting players desire to customize a character.

Also, 3 types of look on armor design, not very interesting in that point, Torch light had the same limit, although it was 4 types not 3, DS3 has I think 4 as well.

Also another limitation is game not supporting mods, how lame can that be ?
D3 doesn't support mods because it's ONLINE. So they claim that they can't support mods. But WoW supports mods and it's an online-only game. Maybe the design doesn't fit? Maybe they're not ready to allow mods yet? So they're not going to support mods. I also agree with them taking this online - there shouldn't be an issue if you have a connection. Just to clarify, they did post about not supporting mods and they gave their reasons.

I'm not understanding your "armor design" statement. Can you explain it to me further and give me links to what you have been reading?

The skill set up is obviously good. What's not good is not allowing us to multi-hot swap action bars (at least give us a limit of 2 or 3) for offensive, tactical or/and defensive purposes or mix-match between the three. They've also limited the hot-swapping while your out in the world. But you can swap your abilities while your in a town. They're just testing it and they're receiving negative feed back on it so more than likely they'll switch to hot-swapping.

Why do people love to talk smack about the negatives in games? Diablo 3 barely has any major negatives. If you don't like the game, don't play it. If you have issues in a game, for fuck sakes find the things you enjoy about it. I definitely don't like the real money involvement, but I can see their point. I could also careless since I am not going to be playing Normal mode a lot.

Also, there's a new big patch coming to Diablo 3 BETA. I don't have any specific information on it, but Blizzard did announce it few weeks ago.

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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #194 on: October 31, 2011, 06:07:51 AM »
There are only 3 visual levels of armor, basic, advanced and master. It's on the Diablo 3 page someplace.

You obviously don't want to understand what I am trying to say so I will stop at this point.
But I highly doubt Blizzard will add abilities which was so great about Diablo and Diablo2.

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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #195 on: November 04, 2011, 05:34:23 AM »
I never played World of Warcraft, though nearly everyone I know has.  But I am one of the biggest Diablo nuts out there.  And I've been waiting for a Dianlo III for almost 10 years.

And from everything I've seen, it's gonna be worth the wait.  Both Monk and Demon Hunter look amazing.  And if they bring back Necromancer in a later expansion, as they're hinting at doing, it'll probably be one of the best games ever made.

I'll be there day 1 with a Monk.
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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #196 on: December 07, 2011, 04:07:35 AM »
Just got invited to Diablo 3.

Barbarian. HERE I CUMMM!!


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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #197 on: December 07, 2011, 08:39:43 AM »
me jelly :(

but that means the game will be launched in a few months now.

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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #198 on: December 07, 2011, 08:57:37 AM »
oh god .... 5 hours of fun, it was short but like im speechless at how amazing this game is. Everything is so superb. I'll be leveling a monk next.


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Re: Diablo III [10.30.2011]
« Reply #199 on: December 07, 2011, 08:13:36 PM »
Monk's what I want to play as, let me know what you think of him!