Rosetta stone

[Xenoran]

Has anyone here used Rosetta Stone (the language software) to learn Japanese or maybe not used it to learn but to help them? Or does anyone know if it actually works? I do have some knowledge of the japanese language beyond anime and manga, but I herd that rosetta stone works really well just not for japanese .... does anyone have any recomendation? My college doesn't offer a Japanese language class and in the US there are not many colleges that do offer formal Japanese language classes. So does anyone have knowledge of Rosetta stone or any other places or anything really that I could use?

*EDIT*

I am asking because I am planning a trip to japan after i graduate and save some money .... 4-6 years away ... and i would like to learn now and not sound like a dumb tourist who isnt confident in the language and be stumbling all over my words ... i know that 4-6 years to master a language is a short time (atleast i think it is) but i would like to start sometime soon. ... i might even be considering a job as an english teacher over there someday

[Meomix]

Use Triple Play Plus Japanese, and have a Katakana + Hiragana chart on your table. Katakana has two modes, one is the english tuned version "looks more like simple-ish english chars" the other is simple japanese version. Hiragana being the extreme. The one i like is the meiji era speech but that's another story.

KE sounds like KEN. Ken which is the translation for "Sword" OMG THE CHARACTER LOOKS LIKE A SWORD!
Use this tactic to finish this quickly.

[Xenoran]

isnt triple play plus kinda old? 97'? still works though?

[kaitou-san]

4-6 years away

Save up money and go with a tour group. You won't need to know any language.

Or, buy a book and study. I've heard lots of praise about the Genki series, and the "minna no nihongo" book.

[fohfoh]

I'm not a huge fan of Rosetta Stone. Somehow the methods used seem.... odd to me and somewhat irrelevant.

[Meomix]

isnt triple play plus kinda old? 97'? still works though?

It's old but very good! Gives you a blue grid of japanese characters of which you must identify by voice.
When you can read a raw scanlation without twitching your eyes you've won the game.

Gah i forgot, there is Katakana, Kanji then Hiragana ( :  :) i don't even know what is the popular manga choice

[Xenoran]

isnt triple play plus kinda old? 97'? still works though?

It's old but very good! Gives you a blue grid of japanese characters of which you must identify by voice.
When you can read a raw scanlation without twitching your eyes you've won the game.

Gah i forgot, there is Katakana, Kanji then Hiragana ( :  i don't even know what is the popular manga choice

thats something i never understood why have so many .... why do you need three? well four if you count romaji

4-6 years away

Save up money and go with a tour group. You won't need to know any language.

Or, buy a book and study. I've heard lots of praise about the Genki series, and the "minna no nihongo" book.

your missing the point here ... i want to actually learn the language

[saidin1015]

Rosetta Stone isn't bad so far (level 1 unit 3) although there are a few flaws.

1) It does not show how to write/draw hiragana and katakana.

2) By its very nature, it doesn't explain counter words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_counter_word.

isnt triple play plus kinda old? 97'? still works though?

It's old but very good! Gives you a blue grid of japanese characters of which you must identify by voice.
When you can read a raw scanlation without twitching your eyes you've won the game.

Gah i forgot, there is Katakana, Kanji then Hiragana ( :  i don't even know what is the popular manga choice

thats something i never understood why have so many .... why do you need three? well four if you count romaji

hiragana is used for particles, endings and some other things. katakana is used for foreign words. kanji is used for regular words.

as far as i know, the above is the norm.

[Xenoran]

so i went and bought procured .... found ...... obtained a copy of triple play and it doesnt work with my windows 7 ... idk if maybe i just combined the files wrong or did something wrong but it sais its incompatible with my version of windows ..... .... soooooooo .... ya .... idk if the real thing would work or not ....

[fohfoh]

so i went and bought procured .... found ...... obtained a copy of triple play and it doesnt work with my windows 7 ... idk if maybe i just combined the files wrong or did something wrong but it sais its incompatible with my version of windows ..... .... soooooooo .... ya .... idk if the real thing would work or not ....

Are you using home premium? If yes, no can do...

If using professional/ultimate then you can try compatibility mode.

[Xenoran]

so i went and bought procured .... found ...... obtained a copy of triple play and it doesnt work with my windows 7 ... idk if maybe i just combined the files wrong or did something wrong but it sais its incompatible with my version of windows ..... .... soooooooo .... ya .... idk if the real thing would work or not ....

Are you using home premium? If yes, no can do...

If using professional/ultimate then you can try compatibility mode.

i can use compatibility mode and i have home premium i believe ....

[Meomix]

Rosetta Stone isn't bad so far (level 1 unit 3) although there are a few flaws.

1) It does not show how to write/draw hiragana and katakana.

2) By its very nature, it doesn't explain counter words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_counter_word.

isnt triple play plus kinda old? 97'? still works though?

It's old but very good! Gives you a blue grid of japanese characters of which you must identify by voice.
When you can read a raw scanlation without twitching your eyes you've won the game.

Gah i forgot, there is Katakana, Kanji then Hiragana ( :  i don't even know what is the popular manga choice

thats something i never understood why have so many .... why do you need three? well four if you count romaji

hiragana is used for particles, endings and some other things. katakana is used for foreign words. kanji is used for regular words.

as far as i know, the above is the norm.

Ah he's right Katakana is the foreign english looking characters, Kanji is normal japanese mode, Hiragana is extreme. I'm currently studying the Kanji.

Have you got Triple Play Plus Japanese working yet Xenoran?

[tomoya-kun]

4-6 years away

Save up money and go with a tour group. You won't need to know any language.

Or, buy a book and study. I've heard lots of praise about the Genki series, and the "minna no nihongo" book.

A tour group is quite restrictive in what you can do, a good thing about going without a tour is that you can explore different parts of cities on your own.  No way I'm going to Akiba or Harajuku with a tour group.

I recommend against using only software or books.  By far the easiest and most efficient way to learn something is by speaking, so if you are really serious then take lessons from a teacher.  Then you can supplement with other tools, which does help quite a bit. 

I've been to Japan once a year for 4 years, so I've picked up a little bit of the language. 

[virionspiral]

so i went and bought procured .... found ...... obtained a copy of triple play and it doesnt work with my windows 7 ... idk if maybe i just combined the files wrong or did something wrong but it sais its incompatible with my version of windows ..... .... soooooooo .... ya .... idk if the real thing would work or not ....

Are you using home premium? If yes, no can do...

If using professional/ultimate then you can try compatibility mode.

i can use compatibility mode and i have home premium i believe ....

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

use that if running it in compatibility settings do not work.

[BrownMasterV]

I use RS: pretty helpful, actually.
I've put it on hold for a few months, but atm I'm on Level 2, Unit 4, Lesson 4 :3
I can see a difference too, I've learned much.

[phufham]

Yea i know what you mean Brown but im not that far ahead, i do know ill prbly do it a coupla times tho, but its good so far, to me anyway

[Xenoran]

Rosetta Stone isn't bad so far (level 1 unit 3) although there are a few flaws.

1) It does not show how to write/draw hiragana and katakana.

2) By its very nature, it doesn't explain counter words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_counter_word.

isnt triple play plus kinda old? 97'? still works though?

It's old but very good! Gives you a blue grid of japanese characters of which you must identify by voice.
When you can read a raw scanlation without twitching your eyes you've won the game.

Gah i forgot, there is Katakana, Kanji then Hiragana ( :  i don't even know what is the popular manga choice

thats something i never understood why have so many .... why do you need three? well four if you count romaji

hiragana is used for particles, endings and some other things. katakana is used for foreign words. kanji is used for regular words.

as far as i know, the above is the norm.

Ah he's right Katakana is the foreign english looking characters, Kanji is normal japanese mode, Hiragana is extreme. I'm currently studying the Kanji.

Have you got Triple Play Plus Japanese working yet Xenoran?

no i havent got it working .... the way i got it was in two NRG files that need to be combined ... idk how to do it for sure .... i think i did it wrong ... lol ill prolly have to buy it but im broke right now so cracked versions are my only option for the next six months

[Meomix]

Rosetta Stone isn't bad so far (level 1 unit 3) although there are a few flaws.

1) It does not show how to write/draw hiragana and katakana.

2) By its very nature, it doesn't explain counter words http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_counter_word.

isnt triple play plus kinda old? 97'? still works though?

It's old but very good! Gives you a blue grid of japanese characters of which you must identify by voice.
When you can read a raw scanlation without twitching your eyes you've won the game.

Gah i forgot, there is Katakana, Kanji then Hiragana ( :   i don't even know what is the popular manga choice

thats something i never understood why have so many .... why do you need three? well four if you count romaji

hiragana is used for particles, endings and some other things. katakana is used for foreign words. kanji is used for regular words.

as far as i know, the above is the norm.

Ah he's right Katakana is the foreign english looking characters, Kanji is normal japanese mode, Hiragana is extreme. I'm currently studying the Kanji.

Have you got Triple Play Plus Japanese working yet Xenoran?

no i havent got it working .... the way i got it was in two NRG files that need to be combined ... idk how to do it for sure .... i think i did it wrong ... lol ill prolly have to buy it but im broke right now so cracked versions are my only option for the next six months

NRG is a special type of ISO file. Go and download PowerISO and Nero from Piratesbay then burn them into a CD.

[Xenoran]

i know what an NRG is ... the problem is that it was split .... its not two separate files its one file that for some reason was split ... idk for sure how to put it back together lol cuz nero wouldnt do it

[Meomix]

Ok it took awhile but i've taken the files from my cd and uploaded them to the internet: https://www.dropbox.com/home#/Public::: copy them, and burn them into a cd.

If you can't log in then sign up here: http://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTEzMTgwOTkwOQ

If you can't burn it into a cd then find the setup file and activate it. When it finishes installing go to C:\TPLAYJP and click on PRESENT