Very Limited Upload Speed - Comcast

[7godeohs]

Hey all,

I am trying to increase my ratio to help myself and share the wealth of course - but I am experiencing extremely terrible upload speeds.  It's in the area of 0.1kB/s.

Torrents from other sites are not an issue and upload at the rate limited by my client.

I have searched for torrents based upon the largest number of leechers (and/or Freeleech torrents) and the fewest number of seeders.  I have downloaded certain torrents for the sole purpose of seeding them.  However, after downloading 6GB of Clannad in 1080p and being unable to upload at a decent rate this has only served to decrease my ratio further.

I'm using uTorrent and have tried both 'Enabling' and 'Forcing' encrytion will little change.

Is anyone else who uses Comcast having this issue?  Any workarounds thus far?  I really enjoy this site and its community and I would hate to lose out on sharing and being able to share because of my crappy ISP and their traffic shaping. 

[blubart]

1) 154:21 leecher ratio is NOT a large number of lechers and few seeders
2) leeching a freeleech torrent (like Clannad in 1080p) definitely had no negative impact on your ratio
3) if it would be traffic shaping by your ISP you would likely experience the same problem for other torrents
4) you'll only be able to saturate your upstream by seeding a good number of torrents

i've no idea what you are actually complaining about - it seems like you are capable of seeding (13.02 GB uploaded on Clannad?) and keeping a good ratio (>1.0) perfectly fine.

known workarounds: patience.

[7godeohs]

I should have been more clear.  The Clannad 1080p torrent that currently has the 154:21 seeder/leecher ratio that you mention was a torrent I downloaded in the past - my upload speeds were great at that point, which reflect the 13GB of upload you see.  I'm not uploading that anymore, here's why:  At a later time, and with no changes to my ISP or client configuration the Clannad torrent basically stopped uploading entirely and after uploading only 1MB in 2 weeks I removed the torrent.  Regardless of the number of seeders I believe that to be rather low upload speed.

I understand that fluctuations of upload speed happen over time and if there a many people seeding the torrent those who upload will have lower upload speeds due to the distribution of required resources among more and more people - however, I would imagine that 1MB in 2 weeks is rather low.

I am currently downloading a 30GB torrent at 1.5MB/s and uploading at only 0.1kB/s - I'm going to monitor my upload bandwidth over time and see if it increases.  If it does not I may be in trouble.

Even if I have patience, BakaBT probably won't.   My issue is that I have to download files to be able to share them and after my ratio is pretty much blown away by my initial download I will receive a warning - if my upload speed is crap I have no way of raising my ratio and I will get booted.  Isn't that how the system works?  I would use a freeleech torrent but even if it wouldn't lower my ratio it won't help much against my ratio that has already been affected by past non-freeleeched torrents if I only push 1MB in 2 weeks.

I have patience, but how long will BakaBT put up with a crappy ratio?

*Also, is there any way you know of to search for torrents tagged as Freeleech?   I see the option for Bonus torrents but not Freeleech.

[Enzedder]

We prefer you keep a ratio of 0.5 or above however you can drop below that without too much worry. Start getting worried if it doesn't come back up though and continues to fall.

The main thing is not the amount that you seed per torrent but overall. You will never survive seeding a single torrent. You need to seed a large number of torrents however do not seed a ridiculous number. Seeding too many will distribute your upload too far across too many torrents you will be a waste of an uploader. You need to find a nice number of torrents which will give you a steady upload. Try not to stop torrents from seeding or removing them until you have achieved this point. Freeleech torrents are a way of achieving this point without a hit to your ratio.

If you are worried about trying to build this base I would suggest you take a look into 2 guides. One being the How to fix your ratio and the other being Re-seeding torrents on BBT from external sources both of which are found in our Wiki.

For Freeleech button I suggest you do a search next time. We have this idea come up a few times that last one being within the past week. You can find a response here.

[Freedom Kira]

Seeding too many will distribute your upload too far across too many torrents you will be a waste of an uploader.

I don't see how that's a problem to the seeder, since it's global ratio that matters, not individual torrent ratios. I find it more beneficial to be running ~100 at once, because of the greater chance of snagging leechers. But in any case, that's kinda irrelevant to OP's problem.

Anyway, at OP, that's a rather odd problem. I don't live in an area that Comcast services. You might want to check with your ISP to see if there were any recent torrent throttling measures put in that somehow limit upload but not download (not likely, since you say it only affects BBT torrents). Also try resetting your network (shut off everything and power back on).

If worse comes to worst, there are, of course, many other sources of anime than BBT, as you should know already. I personally usually use BBT as a last resort, for the times when I can't find what I'm looking for anywhere else. If you find through your close monitoring that your upload is really next to nothing, your best course of action would be to finish what you have already started downloading from BBT and don't add any new ones.

You also have the option of downloading off the public BBT tracker, if your ego/dignity will let you. Search the forums if you want to try it, or just read billanam's post.

Seedboxes are another option. Use Google. You also need a decent amount of cash, and the ability to pay online.

Back to the problem. You're sure you aren't getting any tracker error messages? And you didn't recently install some new torrent related thing, like PeerGuardian, right? And yes, 1MB in 2 weeks is very bad. Even seeding a 150/1 torrent you can expect to upload at least 100KB in 24 hours on dial-up speeds.

And about your question about getting booted for poor ratio, you won't. You will be warned when your ratio hits the threshold, which is not known but I think is around 0.100. At this point, every torrent that you are not specifically seeding (i.e. torrents you are still downloading) will halt, while torrents you are seeding will continue seeding. You won't be booted from the site. In fact, you will still retain all of your account abilities, with the exception of being a Power User (you might be demoted back to User when your ratio falls below 0.500), meaning you won't be able to offer anymore.

[CodeMonkey]

Comcast was sued and lost for throttling Torrents, last year, so I'm pretty sure it's not that:

Comcast has settled a $16 million class-action lawsuit accusing the Internet provider of preventing customers from sharing files via BitTorrent. The suit alleges that Comcast sold users "unlimited" internet access that was, in fact, quite limited. Comcast still admits no wrongdoing, and affected customers will receive up to $16 each as part of the settlement. Ka-ching!

Comcast is one of my ISP's and the one I use for this bakabt. Using Comcast I was able to DL and UP around 90GB in each direction, in approx a month or less, since I started to actively use my account, after only signing up here a couple months ago. Plus I was able to get a 1 ratio in like a month, using only torrents that were packed with seeders and had little to no leechers (things like this; 337/9 or 44/1 or 76/3 and similar or worse).

I'm pretty sure what has already been mentioned is what rings true, you won't get anywhere seeding just 1 or a couple. I DLed like 20 and left 20 to seed. Like one or 2 have not seeded at all while a few have seeded back 2-3 times, with the rest somewhere between, what matters is the overall average, not the single averages. 

[7godeohs]

Get your torrent files when you are logged off, then they will have no impact on your download amount.
Then after you downloaded all of a torrent, get the torrent file again while logged in this time, replacing your public torrent with your private one, and start seeding what you already have downloaded.

That makes sense, I will give that a try if the same torrent is publicly available.

You will never survive seeding a single torrent. You need to seed a large number of torrents however do not seed a ridiculous number. Seeding too many will distribute your upload too far across too many torrents you will be a waste of an uploader.

I will work on this, I have about 35GB of torrents among 4 torrents (I intend to get more) that are almost completed and it looks like my ratio won't drop below .5 - so it should all be uphill from here.

If worse comes to worst, there are, of course, many other sources of anime than BBT, as you should know already. I personally usually use BBT as a last resort, for the times when I can't find what I'm looking for anywhere else.

BBT has a lot of of HD torrents that are hard to find on other sites that are still available (have seeders/leechers).  Plus I like the idea of helping a community that offers many high quality torrents - the more people the better.

Using Comcast I was able to DL and UP around 90GB in each direction, in approx a month or less, since I started to actively use my account, after only signing up here a couple months ago. Plus I was able to get a 1 ratio in like a month, using only torrents that were packed with seeders and had little to no leechers (things like this; 337/9 or 44/1 or 76/3 and similar or worse).

That was similar to my experience at first, fast downloads and fast uploads - I think I was up to a ratio of 1.5 or so within a month with a decent amount of files.  I don't know what happened but one day all 15 of my seeded torrents just kinda died - torrents from other torrent sites were not affected.  No idea.

**I'm not sure if the Comcast deity heard my plea after all this time but I seem to be getting respectable uploads now.  It was initially about 20kB/s among a number of torrents but it has spiked all the way up to 80kB/s on one torrent.  Maybe I just had terrible luck for having my files leeched.  Kinda odd that Eureka Seven (older but good) is getting 75kB/s while K-On! (newer and popular) is getting 0.0kB/s - some others must have 'better quality' bandwidth than me. 

I'll load up on good freeleech torrents to help the community and my ratio.

Anyway, thanks for everyone's insight on my issue, it was greatly appreciated. 

[Freedom Kira]

That makes sense, I will give that a try if the same torrent is publicly available.

All the torrents hosted on BBT are available publicly. I think hentai is too... don't quote me on that one though.

BBT has a lot of of HD torrents that are hard to find on other sites that are still available (have seeders/leechers).  Plus I like the idea of helping a community that offers many high quality torrents - the more people the better.

You do realize that most of the torrents, including the HDs, are from external sources, right?

**I'm not sure if the Comcast deity heard my plea after all this time but I seem to be getting respectable uploads now.  It was initially about 20kB/s among a number of torrents but it has spiked all the way up to 80kB/s on one torrent.  Maybe I just had terrible luck for having my files leeched.  Kinda odd that Eureka Seven (older but good) is getting 75kB/s while K-On! (newer and popular) is getting 0.0kB/s - some others must have 'better quality' bandwidth than me. 

Weird. Might have been a hiccup somewhere. Or really bad luck, but that's a bit of a stretch. Oh well, looks like we're good.

[Xiong Chiamiov]

BBT has a lot of of HD torrents that are hard to find on other sites that are still available (have seeders/leechers).  Plus I like the idea of helping a community that offers many high quality torrents - the more people the better.

You do realize that most of the torrents, including the HDs, are from external sources, right?

He did say that he was having trouble finding them available, as torrents tend to die fairly quickly, DDL links expire, bots go down, etc.

[7godeohs]

BBT has a lot of of HD torrents that are hard to find on other sites that are still available (have seeders/leechers).  Plus I like the idea of helping a community that offers many high quality torrents - the more people the better.

You do realize that most of the torrents, including the HDs, are from external sources, right?

He did say that he was having trouble finding them available, as torrents tend to die fairly quickly, DDL links expire, bots go down, etc.

^This.  I come across lots of links but the availability isn't there a lot of the time.  I know I can go to THORA directly for 1080p torrents (which I often do) and get other high-def releases directly from various subbing website (which I often do) - but if I want to know for sure that I can find a certain release with the best chance of availability of seeders/leechers I come here.

[Freedom Kira]

Hm, fair enough. I guess you just have to be fast. I guess the demand for HD stuff currently isn't as high as for SD. Probably will change over time though.

I myself usually get SD versions to save space, as the quality increase isn't really substantial most of the time. h.264 over xvid though.

[7godeohs]

I myself usually get SD versions to save space, as the quality increase isn't really substantial most of the time. h.264 over xvid though.

I usually don't do 1080p, just more of a curiosity at this point - file sizes are pretty crazy, like 1 ep = 3GB at times.

I tend to watch shows through HDMI to a 42" HDTV (720p) so I usually go for 720p releases - 480p is still a little on the lower quality side for me at that size.   I only have a couple favorite shows that I download so I can afford the file size in 720p.

Always H.264 over Xvid also   

[Tatsujin]

Hey all,

I am trying to increase my ratio to help myself and share the wealth of course - but I am experiencing extremely terrible upload speeds.  It's in the area of 0.1kB/s.

Torrents from other sites are not an issue and upload at the rate limited by my client.

I have searched for torrents based upon the largest number of leechers (and/or Freeleech torrents) and the fewest number of seeders.  I have downloaded certain torrents for the sole purpose of seeding them.  However, after downloading 6GB of Clannad in 1080p and being unable to upload at a decent rate this has only served to decrease my ratio further.

I'm using uTorrent and have tried both 'Enabling' and 'Forcing' encrytion will little change.

Is anyone else who uses Comcast having this issue?  Any workarounds thus far?  I really enjoy this site and its community and I would hate to lose out on sharing and being able to share because of my crappy ISP and their traffic shaping.  

What I can suggest to you is, if you can pay either 90 dollars (for tier 2 business class) or 100 dollars (for tier 3 business class, which I HIGHLY recommend for 10 more dollars) you'll get everything you'll ever need. All ports open (uTorrent won't experience slow speeds), superb high speed for downloading and uploading (I play WoW while uTorrent is sucking huge bandwidth and still be running at 110-150 ms) unlimited bandwidth, no restrictions on anything (they don't care what you do, they won't watch you basically). The downside? 1 or 2 year contract .... and it sucks to have a contract but it is worth it.

Contact Comcast and tell them you want Business class if you want to go that way. Your upload speed will rocket-blast between 700 to 1000 KBs (and probably more) with Tier 3 class.