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Offline briaeros007

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near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« on: November 06, 2010, 05:19:46 PM »
Hello,

I checked my ratio today and i was surprised i was only at "1.00" since for the last year(s) i was between 3.x and 2.5.

What trouble me the most is the speed of the decrease, since i'm pretty sure that 2-3 months before i had a ratio over 2.

So, since i have uploaded more than 2 To, this would implies that in the last 2-3 months I downloaded near 1To of data.

It can be possible but it seems very unlikely.
In the last month, all my internet traffic has an average of 860 kbps, which would say that i downloaded something like 256 Go, from all source (bakabt but also ddl, other trackers,  mail and so one).
I don't think that i downloaded much more the previous months (since march, the average downloaded data is at 900 Kbps, which is coherent.
So in these 8 months, i've downloaded, from the internet, 2To. And i don't really think that bakabt cover as much as 1/2 of all my downloaded data).

In this way where all theses data downloaded come from ?

Me and "alzheimer" ?
Someone who use my account (but who ???)
a bug with my torrent client and/or the site ?

Is it something that already happen to someone?

Offline Soryon

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 05:22:06 PM »
Unless someone else has your passkey it would appear you enjoy downloading the same things many many times over again.
Most of your torrents have a listed DL amount at 2-10x the size of the file.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 05:24:29 PM by Soryon »

Offline Fool010

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 05:27:06 PM »
It seems very likely your passkey has been leaked, I checked your profile just a couple of minutes ago and it showed 89 active torrents. Right now it shows over 170 active torrents.

Generate a new passkey if you want to stop this.
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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 05:27:58 PM »
Unless someone else has your passkey it would appear you enjoy downloading the same things many many times over again.
Most of your torrents have a listed DL amount at 2-10x the size of the file.
I'm of the opinion that you've been posting torrents publicly or giving out links with your passkey embedded in it. Prove me wrong please.

Offline briaeros007

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 05:34:49 PM »
The numbers of torrents are ok.   I have 174 torrents with bakabt on my torrent client.
I don't suppress torrents i have downloaded from bakabt. With the time, this number fatally grows ;).

But the "re-download" of some torrents can be a possibility
I know i've done a "bad" rm/rename/..., and I have something like 150-250 Go to redownload, but not 1To.

Well i will investiguate the redownload factor of torrents and see if its correspond.

Thanks for the tips, and hope it's only that (and hope that the fiber will come quickly to have a better ratio).

Edit : I've see the torrent with enormous "down" size, and doesn't correspond at all with my "rename" and my clients.
So three possibility
-> My  client doesn't work at all and do very bad things.
-> My clients works well, but not with the site.
-> The site doesn't work well, or doesn't like my clients.

For example : Mar haven
-> my clients says that i've downloaded 17.3 Go and uploaded 37.2 Go
-> bakabt says that i've downloaded 103.8Go (WTF?) and uploaded 34.92 Go (it's not the same, but it's coherent).

Something doesn't work somewhere
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 05:41:37 PM by briaeros007 »

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 06:33:20 PM »
Compare your active list with the torrents you're seeding/leeching in your client. Are they all the same?

And just to be safe, you might want to consider resetting your passkey. Do note that if you do this, you'll need to insert your new passkey into all the torrents you have now.

Offline Fool010

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 06:35:39 PM »
One very easy test would be to stop all torrents for a while, and check the profile while they're stopped. If some of them still show up, then your passkey is having a life of it's own. And like I already said in my first post and Kiririn suggested, generate a new passkey and update your torrents.

That would at least eliminate the probability of misuse, before you start looking for less plausible explanations.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 06:37:26 PM by Fool010 »
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Offline briaeros007

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 06:47:22 PM »
Ok.
I've stop torrents, and i have "zero" torrents in bakabt.

But i've already lost something like 300Go (2400-> 2700 Go) and my ratio is now of 0.944. *_*

300Go in less than 2 hours, i hope my ISP could give me this speed ^^.

What i think, is that each time I re launch my clients, bakabt think that i've redownload the torrents!

So the less plausible explanation seems the most realistic one for me.

Offline Soryon

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 06:49:11 PM »
Have you ever shared a link with anyone to any torrent from bakabt?
If you have and your passkey was embedded in it then its been jeopardized.

What i think, is that each time I re launch my clients, bakabt think that i've redownload the torrents!
So the less plausible explanation seems the most realistic one for me.
I have never heard of this happening. No matter what BBT thinks your doing with a file (uploading or downloading), it wont recognize any data transfer that isn't taking place. So somewhere, someone, with your passkey, is downloading files.

Just reset the key.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 06:54:06 PM by Soryon »

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2010, 07:02:26 PM »
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Have you ever shared a link with anyone to any torrent from bakabt?
No.

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Have never heard of this happening. No matter what BBT thinks your doing with a file (uploading or downloading), it wont recognize any data transfer that isn't taking place.
How can he recognize if a data transfer isn't taking place or not ?

i used a developpement version of deluge, and baka isn't a certified apps either. One of them, or the combination of both could always have a bug.

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So somewhere, someone, with your passkey, is downloading files.
But, as soon as I stop torrents on my clients, i pass from 174 torrents to 0 torrents.
As soon as I relaunch my clients I've pass from 1.x ratio to 0.x ratio.

But it can't be a bug and it's mandatory that it's from an hacked link ?

Edit : when i test, i have 103 Go downlaod  for Mar haven.
Now i have 121 Go (130+17.x -> 120-121. ... )
And i don't think someone could download 17 Go in less than 1 hour...
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 07:04:45 PM by briaeros007 »

Offline Fool010

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 07:12:27 PM »
The most plausible explanations are that either your key has been leaked, or that your client is reporting wrong data to the tracker.

The first possibilty can't be totally eliminated. The fact no torrents show up as being active proves no one uses your passkey at the moment, it still doesn't proves no one ever used it. To be 100% sure, you really should generate a new passkey and update your torrents, then run them again.
If your profile still shows abnormal progress in your download figures, then your client has to be faulty. In that case, pick up another one and test it.
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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 07:28:12 PM »
i've juste change the key, and do a test with kashimashi (so new key, no leaked)

21:16 -> inactive. the client is checking if files are ok on the hdd.
Kashimashi - Girl Meets Girl [Blitz]
Aliens, Angst, Humanoid, Love Polygon, Romance, Seinen, Shoujo Ai, Gender Bender    70 / 0    2.94 GB    8.43 GB    5.88 GB    1.4342.9x

27:17 -> active. torrent 100%
   
Kashimashi - Girl Meets Girl [Blitz]
Aliens, Angst, Humanoid, Love Polygon, Romance, Seinen, Shoujo Ai, Gender Bender    70 / 0    2.94 GB    8.43 GB    5.88 GB    1.4342.9x
<-- Client reboot -->
21:20

Kashimashi - Girl Meets Girl [Blitz]
Aliens, Angst, Humanoid, Love Polygon, Romance, Seinen, Shoujo Ai, Gender Bender    69 / 1    2.94 GB    8.43 GB    8.81 GB    0.9572.9x

5.88 Gb to 8.81 Gb in less than 3 minutes. I must be the quickest downloader on the world.
If the clients send wrong data to bakabt, why only when it reboot ?
And change it... Ok, but i haven't found a client which can be launched as a dameon, have graphical interface, works on linux, and have a small cpu/memory footprints :(

Ok my clients can be faulty, but i don't understand

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2010, 07:43:36 PM »
5.88 Gb to 8.81 Gb in less than 3 minutes. I must be the quickest downloader on the world.
If the clients send wrong data to bakabt, why only when it reboot ?
Ok my clients can be faulty, but i don't understand
Haven't you noticed the increment has exactly the same size as the files composing the batch ?
Most of the torrents in your profile showed figures of 2,3,4,5 or 6 times the exact size of the batch, do you still need more evidence ?
For some reason, it seems everytime you restart your client or torrents, it adds the size of the batch to the downloaded amount.

It's your choice, but I personnally would favour a client with less features instead of one that obviously fucks up my ratio.

Now, that's your pick.

Edit : I noticed you restarted the torrent with Transmisison instead of Deluge, and it added the batch size again, going from 8.81 to 11.75 GB. You should contact an admin, there's obviously something very wrong going on here.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2010, 07:54:59 PM by Fool010 »
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Offline briaeros007

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2010, 08:13:16 PM »
Haven't you noticed the increment has exactly the same size as the files composing the batch ?
Most of the torrents in your profile showed figures of 2,3,4,5 or 6 times the exact size of the batch, do you still need more evidence ?
For some reason, it seems everytime you restart your client or torrents, it adds the size of the batch to the downloaded amount.

It's what i've said (perhaps i'm not clear enough ;) ).
Only i'm more reserved on the "faulty link" and i said that it can be my client, or bakabt or the both.
I've done enough debug in my life to know that sometimes the troubles isn't always at the most evident place.

It's your choice, but I personnally would favour a client with less features instead of one that obviously fucks up my ratio.
Well, before choosing another client, you must find that the client you're using bring you troubles.
It works like a charm for more than a year. It's not like i've used this client only for the last days.

And i've began testing transmission, but i will be sure he doesn't fuck my ratio only with enough time to test it.


Edit : I noticed you restarted the torrent with Transmisison instead of Deluge, and it added the batch size again, going from 8.81 to 11.75 GB. You should contact an admin, there's obviously something very wrong going on here.
Well, When i tried transmission, i just launch it on parallel of deluge.Perhaps it has caused this.
Now I'm waiting to kashimashi to become "inactive" (i've stop all P2P clients), and i will test anew. Then i will test with another torrents to see if transmission do something crazier or not ;)

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2010, 09:03:10 PM »
Edit : I noticed you restarted the torrent with Transmisison instead of Deluge, and it added the batch size again, going from 8.81 to 11.75 GB. You should contact an admin, there's obviously something very wrong going on here.
Well, When i tried transmission, i just launch it on parallel of deluge.Perhaps it has caused this.
Now I'm waiting to kashimashi to become "inactive" (i've stop all P2P clients), and i will test anew. Then i will test with another torrents to see if transmission do something crazier or not ;)
You might prefer to do the test with something lighter, like a manga torrent (though over 100MB, otherwise it won't record the download as those under are freeleech). That way your ratio won't take too much of a hit even if a download gets stacked multiple times.

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Offline briaeros007

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2010, 09:12:55 PM »
with 2to of upload, i can afford 2Go torrent hit on my ratio ;)
Anyway  i've already lost 1To. 2Go more or less isn't so important

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2010, 12:03:31 AM »
And change it... Ok, but i haven't found a client which can be launched as a dameon, have graphical interface, works on linux, and have a small cpu/memory footprints :(

Give KTorrent a try. It's a bit heavier than Deluge but I like the interface.

If you don't like it, take a look at the whitelist for more options.

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2010, 12:39:34 AM »
what are "Go"s and "To"s?
Giga/Tera oysters?

last time i checked network traffic was still calculated in bits and bytes.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2010, 01:54:05 AM by blubart »

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2010, 01:01:53 AM »
what or "Go"s and "To"s?
Giga/Tera oysters?

last time i checked network traffic was still calculated in bits and bytes.

maybe Giga/Tera Octets? But I haven't heard that naming for quite a while.

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Re: near 1To downloaded in 2 months ?
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2010, 01:57:37 AM »
ahhh, apparently (at least according to the magnificent wikipedia): In France, French Canada and Romania, the word octet is used in common language instead of byte (in the 8-bit sense); a megabyte (MB) is called a megaoctet (Mo).

go figure...