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tomoya-kun:
--- Quote from: blubart on November 07, 2010, 01:57:37 AM ---ahhh, apparently (at least according to the magnificent wikipedia): In France, French Canada and Romania, the word octet is used in common language instead of byte (in the 8-bit sense); a megabyte (MB) is called a megaoctet (Mo).
go figure...
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As a Canadian, I can attest to that. But it's uncommon, not like it's writen on boxes or anything.
Freedom Kira:
Probably differs by region too, as I'm Canadian and never heard of that term used in the computing field. Or it's just more rare than "uncommon."
briaeros007:
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on November 07, 2010, 12:03:31 AM ---Give KTorrent a try. It's a bit heavier than Deluge but I like the interface.
If you don't like it, take a look at the whitelist for more options.
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I was using ktorrent before using deluge.
When ktorrent was trying to always use more than 20% of cpu, all of this only to open tcp/udp connection, do some hash check, timer, and writes on disk, I tried deluge.
Yesterday, I used the list on the faq to choose a new one (transmission) ;)
Hopes this one is ok (the last tests seems to say so).
--- Quote from: x5ga on November 07, 2010, 01:01:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: blubart on November 07, 2010, 12:39:34 AM ---what or "Go"s and "To"s?
Giga/Tera oysters?
last time i checked network traffic was still calculated in bits and bytes.
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maybe Giga/Tera Octets? But I haven't heard that naming for quite a while.
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--- Quote from: blubart on November 07, 2010, 01:57:37 AM ---ahhh, apparently (at least according to the magnificent wikipedia): In France, French Canada and Romania, the word octet is used in common language instead of byte (in the 8-bit sense); a megabyte (MB) is called a megaoctet (Mo).
go figure...
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Well, On one hand, an Octet is effectively a group of 8 bits , and is well used in French. As I'm french I used it automatically (I don't even think about using bytes).
On another hand, a byte defines only a group of bits, and some (old?) "bytes" could represent 9 bytes for example.
And the word octet also exists in english \o/.
And I found it's easier to use since when I write 1 Mb or 1mB -> if we respect the captialization of letters, the first would be 1 Mega bits, and the other 1 milli Byte ;). So in certain situation it could be complicated to know what the person is saying.
It seems also to be well used in RFC, to avoid misunderstanding.
Freedom Kira:
--- Quote from: briaeros007 on November 07, 2010, 10:02:10 AM ---I was using ktorrent before using deluge.
When ktorrent was trying to always use more than 20% of cpu, all of this only to open tcp/udp connection, do some hash check, timer, and writes on disk, I tried deluge.
Yesterday, I used the list on the faq to choose a new one (transmission) ;)
Hopes this one is ok (the last tests seems to say so).
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There have been a few reports in the past about problems with Transmission. Hasn't happened recently, though, maybe a few months ago. Let's see how you turn out.
How long ago did you use KTorrent? I think updates that came with Ubuntu 10.04 fixed a lot of problems it was having.
--- Quote from: briaeros007 on November 07, 2010, 10:02:10 AM ---Well, On one hand, an Octet is effectively a group of 8 bits , and is well used in French. As I'm french I used it automatically (I don't even think about using bytes).
On another hand, a byte defines only a group of bits, and some (old?) "bytes" could represent 9 [bits] for example.
And the word octet also exists in english \o/.
And I found it's easier to use since when I write 1 Mb or 1mB -> if we respect the captialization of letters, the first would be 1 Mega bits, and the other 1 milli Byte ;). So in certain situation it could be complicated to know what the person is saying.
It seems also to be well used in RFC, to avoid misunderstanding.
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Dunno, the convention is b for bits and B for bytes, and it's quite common knowledge that a byte is 8 bits. Never heard of the 9 bit convention, which doesn't even make sense because the computing field uses powers of 2... Is that even a convention that exists or existed, or did you just make that up?
Saying "Mo" will get at least 80% of people wondering, and even if you say "octet" only a few more of them will figure out what you mean.
Also, "millibytes" also doesn't make sense with respect to physical space. You either have a bit or you don't. In other words, storage space in the computing world is technically discrete. This is why people usually associate mB as megabytes, regardless of letter casing of the M. Likewise, mb would be megabits, though some n00bs like to use mb for megabytes (which is probably your main point).
Anyway, main point of that was, most people who see "1mb" or "1mB" would assume megabits or megabytes, not milli, because it simply makes no sense the other way.
briaeros007:
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on November 07, 2010, 11:53:31 AM ---There have been a few reports in the past about problems with Transmission. Hasn't happened recently, though, maybe a few months ago. Let's see how you turn out.
How long ago did you use KTorrent? I think updates that came with Ubuntu 10.04 fixed a lot of problems it was having.
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More than 2 years. But i don't use ubuntu, and i want to stick with kde 3.5. So i must verify that the "new" ktorrent don't use kde4 library.
--- Quote ---Dunno, the convention is b for bits and B for bytes,
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The convention ... in U.S.
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and it's quite common knowledge that a byte is 8 bits. Never heard of the 9 bit convention, which doesn't even make sense because the computing field uses powers of 2... Is that even a convention that exists or existed, or did you just make that up?
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It's not a convention, it's a use.
In the beginning of computeur science There was plenty of type of processor, even some tri state soviets developped long ago.
Byte existed with 7,8,9 and other more exotic number of bits (see wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bytes
--- Quote ---Historically, a byte was the number of bits (typically 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, or 16) used to encode a single character of text in a computer[1][2] and it is for this reason the basic addressable element in many computer architectures. The size of a byte is typically hardware dependent, but the modern de facto standard is eight bits, as this is a convenient power of two.
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--- Quote ---Saying "Mo" will get at least 80% of people wondering, and even if you say "octet" only a few more of them will figure out what you mean.
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Of U.S. people. I'm not sure that other country forcibly use Bytes or doesn't know what an octet is.
And if i wand to be a strict scientific, I would even use Mi/Gi and not M/G ;)
--- Quote ---Also, "millibytes" also doesn't make sense with respect to physical space.
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Yes, but I have already see a "mb" or a "mB" to speak about Mb, or MB.
--- Quote ---You either have a bit or you don't.
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Well, in a quantical world, it's not so simple ;) So for "today" computer, yes. For "next tommorow", not so sure.
Ok it's really not what we speak here ;)
--- Quote ---In other words, storage space in the computing world is technically discrete. This is why people usually associate mB as megabytes, regardless of letter casing of the M. Likewise, mb would be megabits, though some n00bs like to use mb for megabytes (which is probably your main point).
Anyway, main point of that was, most people who see "1mb" or "1mB" would assume megabits or megabytes, not milli, because it simply makes no sense the other way.
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Even if I could understand :
if I see 1 mB : how can i be sure that it must be read 1MB, and not 1Mb ? After all the person who wrote this could have done 2 error of capitalization.
And more important,
1 Mb <=> 1000 bits
1 MB <=> 1024 Bytes. (and should be write 1MiB : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix)
So it's really not the same thing!
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