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Dail-in Battle.net New Security Feature (free and optional)
Tatsujin:
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--- Quote from: Tatsujin on November 11, 2010, 04:42:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sosseres on November 11, 2010, 12:55:57 PM ---The problem with all authenticators is that they assume the account is something of value. Total value of my account with games included is somewhere around $60. I do not want an authenticator for $60 services. If I did have a wow account it might be different since you actually can gain things of value with that. Having D2, WC3 +TFT and SC2 as an average account means you lose a small amount of money re-buying those things in a worst case scenario. You lose nothing of your play time or other value (unless you spent a lot of time on D2).
If they forced authentication I would never use their official services and would instead look for pirated solutions.
I see authenticators to anything worth less than $1000 as meaningless, worse than that, they take time. I wish all games had the option for auto-login.
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My WoW account is worth in thousands, I have two Legendaries (shadowmourne being as one) and some extremely rare items, plus the time I put in, achievements, the guild I'm in and the large reputation I have on my server. I've been hacked twice and they happened to be in less than 48 hours. I made sure it won't happen a third time and I quickly ordered an Authenticator and re-registered my e-mail account to another one with a specific-only-password that I don't use for anything else and I never access that account under any circumstances. I have all the e-mails being sent to that account forwarded to my main one. It's pointless to get hacked at this stage. Cata's coming out and I'm getting prepared for it.
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only stupid people get hacked so i feel authenticators for games shouldnt be required
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You can have no addons at all and still get hacked easily without an authenticator (happened to a lot of people). I wouldn't say "only stupid people", I'd point my finger at those that go the "buy gold" websites and "we level characters for X price" and "Congrats we're giving away Beta codes just visit this website here!".
I got hacked because I updated an addon IceHUD from Matrix (whatever) and I learned my lesson. Apparently Matrix somehow doesn't have a restricted addon upload to the legit makers so almost anyone can upload the same addon with a "new version" and have a keylogger in the file(s). Dropped that Matrix program and started using curse.com since it's easier and restricted to legit addon makers.
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yea you were stupid and used a non secure source for a mod. That would be a sound basis for calling someone stupid. Not to say you didnt hopefully learn a lesson, but still wowace and for the most part curse are the sites most people get their mods from deviating from those norms is risky and stupid.
Thus i feel my statement holds true since peoples accounts arent being targeted and brutefoced
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Yea I was stupid for not noticing what Matrix really did and not having an authenticator off hand first. But would you level me with the same group of people that click on those websites or try to purchase gold or whatever? .... No. You wouldn't. I thought "Oh well I never got hacked, won't happen to me" This is why you NEED an authenticator. Otherwise, don't be a little bitch when you get hacked "But but but" Where was your authenticator? ... Blizzard already has three different options, two of them which are free and the other one you pay for a real one they make and they send it to you. You need one if you care about your account.
WoW is the #1 game besides being an MMO, of course you're going to get targeted just like everyone else whether you use addons, visit websites or not.
Sosseres:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on November 12, 2010, 06:37:03 AM ---WoW is the #1 game besides being an MMO, of course you're going to get targeted just like everyone else whether you use addons, visit websites or not.
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All to true, even I (never played WoW) get scam mails from people claiming to be blizzard/blizzard support.
il_duce:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on November 12, 2010, 06:37:03 AM ---Yea I was stupid for not noticing what Matrix really did and not having an authenticator off hand first. But would you level me with the same group of people that click on those websites or try to purchase gold or whatever?
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I certainly would. Sorry, but there are no excuses in your case. You relied too heavily on a third-party software, which wasn't trustworthy. You got what you deserved. I am not saying that it was right that you got hacked, on the contrary I think nobody should get hacked in the first place. However, if you don't even care to check your sources from reliable sites, you'll get hacked sooner or later.
I've personally played since beta and I've never got hacked. That is because I usually keep my common sense with me, only download addons from big sites which scan their products for "additional" files and don't do anything suspicious with my computer. Alas, I'm waiting for the day keyloggers will be introduced to streaming porn sites. Then I'm screwed.
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For additional safety, I think the authenticators are great. I just cannot be arsed to insert a randomly generated code every time I log in. I am too old to change my highly sophisticated password and username writing skillz to a detailed codetyping. I just don't feel that it would improve my safety a lot.
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: il_duce on November 12, 2010, 11:07:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on November 12, 2010, 06:37:03 AM ---Yea I was stupid for not noticing what Matrix really did and not having an authenticator off hand first. But would you level me with the same group of people that click on those websites or try to purchase gold or whatever?
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I certainly would. Sorry, but there are no excuses in your case. You relied too heavily on a third-party software, which wasn't trustworthy. You got what you deserved. I am not saying that it was right that you got hacked, on the contrary I think nobody should get hacked in the first place. However, if you don't even care to check your sources from reliable sites, you'll get hacked sooner or later.
I've personally played since beta and I've never got hacked. That is because I usually keep my common sense with me, only download addons from big sites which scan their products for "additional" files and don't do anything suspicious with my computer. Alas, I'm waiting for the day keyloggers will be introduced to streaming porn sites. Then I'm screwed.
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Okay I get people's points. I came back around March of this year and I got hacked like less than a month. I think we can safely drop this topic and focus on the authenticators. You got two nice free services to have an authenticator on your account. But the whole point of this thread is Blizzard made another nice authentication service for free to actually use. My guild actually was harassed with their character names getting reported or their accounts getting hacked, and most of them only use DBM, Omen and similar addons like HealBot. Long story short, some people still on the server don't like the fact that Excelcius is one of the top guilds on the server because of oh-so-drama way back in 2006.
mgz:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on November 12, 2010, 06:37:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: mgz on November 12, 2010, 02:46:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on November 11, 2010, 11:43:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: mgz on November 11, 2010, 11:32:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on November 11, 2010, 04:42:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sosseres on November 11, 2010, 12:55:57 PM ---The problem with all authenticators is that they assume the account is something of value. Total value of my account with games included is somewhere around $60. I do not want an authenticator for $60 services. If I did have a wow account it might be different since you actually can gain things of value with that. Having D2, WC3 +TFT and SC2 as an average account means you lose a small amount of money re-buying those things in a worst case scenario. You lose nothing of your play time or other value (unless you spent a lot of time on D2).
If they forced authentication I would never use their official services and would instead look for pirated solutions.
I see authenticators to anything worth less than $1000 as meaningless, worse than that, they take time. I wish all games had the option for auto-login.
--- End quote ---
My WoW account is worth in thousands, I have two Legendaries (shadowmourne being as one) and some extremely rare items, plus the time I put in, achievements, the guild I'm in and the large reputation I have on my server. I've been hacked twice and they happened to be in less than 48 hours. I made sure it won't happen a third time and I quickly ordered an Authenticator and re-registered my e-mail account to another one with a specific-only-password that I don't use for anything else and I never access that account under any circumstances. I have all the e-mails being sent to that account forwarded to my main one. It's pointless to get hacked at this stage. Cata's coming out and I'm getting prepared for it.
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only stupid people get hacked so i feel authenticators for games shouldnt be required
--- End quote ---
You can have no addons at all and still get hacked easily without an authenticator (happened to a lot of people). I wouldn't say "only stupid people", I'd point my finger at those that go the "buy gold" websites and "we level characters for X price" and "Congrats we're giving away Beta codes just visit this website here!".
I got hacked because I updated an addon IceHUD from Matrix (whatever) and I learned my lesson. Apparently Matrix somehow doesn't have a restricted addon upload to the legit makers so almost anyone can upload the same addon with a "new version" and have a keylogger in the file(s). Dropped that Matrix program and started using curse.com since it's easier and restricted to legit addon makers.
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yea you were stupid and used a non secure source for a mod. That would be a sound basis for calling someone stupid. Not to say you didnt hopefully learn a lesson, but still wowace and for the most part curse are the sites most people get their mods from deviating from those norms is risky and stupid.
Thus i feel my statement holds true since peoples accounts arent being targeted and brutefoced
--- End quote ---
Yea I was stupid for not noticing what Matrix really did and not having an authenticator off hand first. But would you level me with the same group of people that click on those websites or try to purchase gold or whatever? .... No. You wouldn't. I thought "Oh well I never got hacked, won't happen to me" This is why you NEED an authenticator. Otherwise, don't be a little bitch when you get hacked "But but but" Where was your authenticator? ... Blizzard already has three different options, two of them which are free and the other one you pay for a real one they make and they send it to you. You need one if you care about your account.
WoW is the #1 game besides being an MMO, of course you're going to get targeted just like everyone else whether you use addons, visit websites or not.
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no i wouldnt put you on the same level as the retard who gives his account information to "gold sellers"
because you can buy gold completely legit and not worry about your account being "hacked"
Plain and simple its like asking if the functional retard is as stupid as the retard who cant feed itself or wipe itself when it shits.
Obviously not but because hes functionally retarded does that mean hes not retarded? NO.
Same concept but think of yourself as functionally retarded.
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