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Offline SinfulValmar

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Seeding correctly?
« on: November 17, 2010, 04:50:24 AM »
Hi.

Newcomer here.. I've read the Wiki and such and still a bit confused and i don't want to wait to long becuase i know if my ratio goes down a bit i will be warned. I'm Actually trying to seed as much as possible, and i am at the moment but i don't notice my ratio going up?

Am i doing it correctly?

Here are some pictures of my utorrent.
http://i51.tinypic.com/348rk41.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/k32hee.jpg


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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 05:36:45 AM »
Looks fine to me. Check the seeder to leecher ratios on the torrents you're seeding. If there's a high ratio, don't expect to get a ton of upload from them. The best suggestion I can give to you is to be patient. I can't see it in that screenshot so make sure you have the correct ports open as well.
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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 08:14:07 AM »
Looking at your profile your problem is leechers. Many of your torrents are heavily seeded with few leeching. Until you can build a good base you will have problems like this. I would suggest being patient as well however you may also wish to jump on a few freeleech torrents to seed as they often have a nice constant number of leechers.

Also try downloading offsite and seeding back here. That will help get your torrent base together.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 05:30:33 PM »
Ohh I thought the more seeders the better my ratio would be.

So i need to find torrents with More leechers? and seed off that?

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2010, 07:23:20 PM »
Ohh I thought the more seeders the better my ratio would be.

So i need to find torrents with More leechers? and seed off that?
The more seeders there are, the harder it is to seed. So yes, the ideal torrent to seed is one with lots of leechers and few seeders. However, torrents like that are pretty much nonexistent on BakaBT except newly granted torrents.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2010, 08:02:03 PM »
So yes, the ideal torrent to seed is one with lots of leechers and few seeders. However, torrents like that are pretty much nonexistent on BakaBT except newly granted torrents.
Which means you're best off finding something that has a reasonable S/L ratio and then being patient.
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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2010, 11:40:23 PM »
Ohh I thought the more seeders the better my ratio would be.

So i need to find torrents with More leechers? and seed off that?
The more seeders there are, the harder it is to seed. So yes, the ideal torrent to seed is one with lots of leechers and few seeders. However, torrents like that are pretty much nonexistent on BakaBT except newly granted torrents.

My suggestions to you would be to hound the offers and browse pages for these reasons:

If you watch the browse tab very often and consistantly, you will be able to see when the newest torrents have been granted/added to the site.  It is good to check this every few hours or so (or more often if you want to be etra sure) to make sure that you have the ability to quickly download torrents that are newly granted so you can seed the most.  You have to be somewhat quick, though, depending upon your download/upload speeds.  Most of the uploading that I do on torrents that have been newly granted is when only one person has the full file and everyone is downloading it for the first time.  This is true for most torrents, however, there are some older torrents that have low seeder to leecher ratios that I've also seeded quite a lot on as well.  If you'd like to get an idea of the kinds of torrents I mean when I say low seeder to leecher ratios, check out my tracker profile...there should be several old torrents in my active tab of my profile that I've been able to seed a lot on.

Watching the offers tab helps you as well because you will know when something becomes semi-approved, which, in most cases, means that the torrent is closer to being granted.  You can't tell when they'll grant it, but you'll know that if something becomes semi-approved, it could get granted at any moment after it gets semi-approved, so you'll know to check the browse tab on the main site a little more often than you usually do :)

Also, by checking the browse tab fairly often, you can find torrents that are added to the site by power uploaders, or people who are able to upload torrents directly onto the site without going through the moderation process.  These people are given this status at a staff members' discretion.  Checking the browse tab allows you to see if any of the power uploaders have added anything to the site as well :)

Hope this helps, and sorry if I got anything wrong...if I did, let me know.  Also, this is just my own opinion, which means that you don't necessarily have to follow what I said in this post.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2010, 01:58:09 AM »
I totally understand now, Thanks so much guys haha.

Just wanted to verify everything to make sure i was doing it correctly, i wanted to make this site a new hobby for me, and next paycheck i'll be sure to donate to keep it running or whatever it is the donations go to.

Anyways, thanks again for the friendly help.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2010, 07:50:42 AM »
Did you really need to center that? It's not a poem...

Anyway, forget about donating, unless you're literally on the site 24/7. Donations are open for about one hour max, every three months. If you're lucky enough to donate, good for you, because it nets you quite a bit of upload credit, but don't count on it.

Please do read the Wiki...

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 10:25:15 PM »
Owch, I have read the Wiki and I will continue too until I'm 100% sure of what I'm doing, no need to criticize either just annoying.

Close this topic please what's done is done, Thank to the posters above.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2010, 10:58:56 PM »
If you ever feel the need to invest in the site, PFCorner offers a seedbox system specific to BakaBT users. You can find more information about that on the PFCorner wiki page.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2010, 12:18:00 AM »
Ohh I thought the more seeders the better my ratio would be.

So i need to find torrents with More leechers? and seed off that?

Just caught something I didn't catch earlier. Seems like you might have a misunderstanding of what seeders and leechers are. Or maybe you cleared it up by now.

As a quick summary:
Seeder = people who are uploading data. As a seeder yourself, these are people you will be competing with, in a way. So the more of them there are, the more difficult to get your ratio up.
Leecher = people who are downloading data, kinda like your clients, or customers.
Ratio = how much data you have uploaded divided by the amount you have downloaded. So, the more seeders there are, the more you have to push to get the same amount of data out the door, because the leechers will be downloading from other seeders as well. If you were to think economics, this would be most similar to a perfect competition type of world.

Owch, I have read the Wiki and I will continue too until I'm 100% sure of what I'm doing, no need to criticize either just annoying.

Didn't mean to sound condescending. Try to read for the content, not the tone.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2010, 04:15:50 AM »
As a new user, this topic is extremely helpful. Appreciate the veteran responses.

Along these lines of new user inquiry, obviously contributing to the tracker as a newbie isn't going to give me a nice ratio at first unless I severely limit my download bandwidth. Should I just leech first and keep the torrent open until say… 4x ratio? That's what I've got my client set to at present.

I'd like to make contributions in seeding, but I don't want to go about it the wrong way in the first week of my membership here.

Cheers for your replies in advance.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2010, 05:56:17 AM »
To offset the situation you described, no one gets warned until he has downloaded at least 25 GB.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2010, 04:23:32 PM »
Im actually having sort of the same problem as the OP. Ive downloaded 18gigs total from bakabt, but everytime I leave it seeding, itll seed maybe 50mb-100mb of each file and stop. I download from demonoid, a file that was 1.7gigs and its already uploaded over 10gigs to demonoid in the past 3 days, while my torrents for here wont seed no matter what I try. Anyone have any suggestions? (im off to work so ill check back tomorrow)


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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2010, 04:29:51 PM »
As said above. It all depends on the seeder/leecher ratio.

Remember every other seeder out there is your competitor.


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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2010, 08:57:40 PM »
Im actually having sort of the same problem as the OP. Ive downloaded 18gigs total from bakabt, but everytime I leave it seeding, itll seed maybe 50mb-100mb of each file and stop. I download from demonoid, a file that was 1.7gigs and its already uploaded over 10gigs to demonoid in the past 3 days, while my torrents for here wont seed no matter what I try. Anyone have any suggestions? (im off to work so ill check back tomorrow)


Thanks in advance,
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It doesn't "stop" unless it says "stopped" or "finished" or whatever. Which it clearly doesn't, from what you're saying.

It's funny how people come here complaining they can't seed, but their problem is that they expect to be able to seed to nobody. Just send data off to cyberspace black holes or something.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2010, 12:12:39 PM »
"Freeleech" was mentioned previously, just download those beautiful 1080p releases without your ratio going down, then upload them and watch your ratio go up up up. If you have a decent system you should even be able to play them with no sweat.

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2010, 12:45:12 AM »
Im actually having sort of the same problem as the OP. Ive downloaded 18gigs total from bakabt, but everytime I leave it seeding, itll seed maybe 50mb-100mb of each file and stop. I download from demonoid, a file that was 1.7gigs and its already uploaded over 10gigs to demonoid in the past 3 days, while my torrents for here wont seed no matter what I try. Anyone have any suggestions? (im off to work so ill check back tomorrow)


Thanks in advance,
Safiyan

It doesn't "stop" unless it says "stopped" or "finished" or whatever. Which it clearly doesn't, from what you're saying.

It's funny how people come here complaining they can't seed, but their problem is that they expect to be able to seed to nobody. Just send data off to cyberspace black holes or something.


The thing is, if I upload, I want to be able to seed 24/7 for at least a month straight, I understand that I cant upload into a cyberblack hole. I guess ill just d/l something else that has a ton of leeches and just leave it u/l for a few weeks. Sound better? :P

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Re: Seeding correctly?
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2010, 08:45:56 AM »
Yes, yes it does. Finally someone who understands right away. Some people need long explanations... :P

Anyway, think about how you're gonna find torrents that will have lots of leechers. There's no known solution to this one, you have to "use your noodle." Hint: Think in terms of popularity and release date.