Warning from ISP

[dogsinafen]

Seedboxes are only good for seeding, though, right?
I'm worried about getting caught downloading.

No, download from the remote server via FTP. If your SB provider is not a total tard the FTP will be encrypted. Your ISP will be none the wiser of what you're doing.

[heavyoak]

My ISP, charter commutations, has for the better part of 7 years of torrenting from TPB, TT, Nyaa~, Boxtorrents, and now bakaBT, has continued there stance as follows: "we don't give a flying fuck" thats literary what the main office has told me. as long as I pay my bill every month, they don't care what I download.

Just so you know, 10TB's per month on average. bakabt is only a small amount of that. Ive torrented photoshop 7 & CS4, windows 2000 & XP, startrek (all of it including movies), stargate (every ep and movie), Futurama (all ep's and movies), GTA(I, II,and III), and every NES, S-NES, N64, GC, Wii, GB, GBC, GBA, and DS ROM that is out there.

lets just say that I have broken more law in 7 years than most people on the planet(including the mob).


VPN = crap that your wasting money on.
TOR = slow and useless.
FTP = you have got to be kidding me.

just change your ISP.

I live in Texas, and I'm sure that charter is out where you are.

[dogsinafen]

VPN = crap that your wasting money on.
TOR = slow and useless.
FTP = you have got to be kidding me.

FTP is far superior than bittorrent if you have access to FTP servers on high speed lines filled with files. I've got a feeling you don't.

OH anf fyi, it's not necessarily your ISP that you need to worry about. It's people who accumulate IPs in the peer pool of torrents. From there they try to sue. All your ISP does for the most part is pass on that naughty letter.

[linx]

FTP is far superior than bittorrent if you have access to FTP servers on high speed lines filled with files. I've got a feeling you don't.

OH anf fyi, it's not necessarily your ISP that you need to worry about. It's people who accumulate IPs in the peer poor of torrents. From there they try to sue. All your ISP does for the most part is pass on that naughty letter.

I agree completely, a good server will always max your home connection out, unless you have 100mbit at home.  It's always the copyright holders (or those they appoint) who try to find filesharers and then send letters / request your details etc etc. 

[shadowdancer]

Strange never heard about it, didn't even know about that animation always was licensed? O_o I used to be an administrator on a sat files website and because our server was located in the US and we were only giving codes to european sat channels so our members could watch it for free (a lot XD! our site had over 600.000 members), the european companies couldn't do anything about it. My ex is still doing the same site and he still doesn't have problems and even making a bunch of money with it. So I thought it was the same with animation as in pokémon probably is licensed here because we have it on Dutch television and for example ouran high school host(and anime that isn't commercial outside of Japan) not because it isn't broadcast here. That was my own logic lolz.  But apparently I've been wrong for yrs now   *lmao*

I do download hollywood movies and other 'western' things, but until now no warnings here either. They were planning to change the laws here too, but for now everything is still going great. (they tried to banish tpb too and it was unavailable for a while but now I'm still using torrents from there too xD) but well the Netherlands are one of the few countries you can have a 100 cellphone numbers without having to give your name. So hoping they won't be searching for anime lovers xD.

[linx]

You can have 100's of cellphone numbers in the UK without giving them your name either  ^^ Just buy a SIM card from any shop xD They usually can't do a damn thing about it, and even if they can, its too much work, too expensive, difficult etc.  It helps if your server provider, host and you are in different countries, it's even more work for them.

[shadowdancer]

Yeah I love it XD and pretty cheap too (buy one for 10 euros and get 10 euros prepaid salary except then you've to register on the provider's site aka not anonymous, of course you can still give a false name xD...or for 5 euros etc), but in Spain(they ask for ID and an address in Spain wth xD) and especially Japan (foreigners don't get a Jap phonenr easily) for example they are pretty strict. I heard Belgium was strict too but not too sure about that. And prob other countries too. In the States when I was 16 I had to get one through my aunt ? :s not sure if it was because of the age thing or because I wasn't a US citizen or whatever.

Anyway sorry for the sidestep xD I just remembered it and it had a bit to do with 'big brother' xD

[Freedom Kira]

Strange never heard about it, didn't even know about that animation always was licensed? O_o I used to be an administrator on a sat files website and because our server was located in the US and we were only giving codes to european sat channels so our members could watch it for free (a lot XD! our site had over 600.000 members), the european companies couldn't do anything about it. My ex is still doing the same site and he still doesn't have problems and even making a bunch of money with it. So I thought it was the same with animation as in pokémon probably is licensed here because we have it on Dutch television and for example ouran high school host(and anime that isn't commercial outside of Japan) not because it isn't broadcast here. That was my own logic lolz.  But apparently I've been wrong for yrs now  *lmao*

Anything that shows on TV or released in any other form (like DVD) is licensed. Period. The original creator distributes licenses for networks to display the content. It's not really that far out of an idea. How else are the creators making money?

Essentially, fansubbers are stealing the work as it does infringe upon the terms and conditions of the licenses released. Anime creators in Japan tend to not care what happens to their material outside of Japan, and neither do fansubbers, so it's a win-win for us.

The reason why stuff is blacklisted is because certain American companies decide to complain when stuff they have legally obtained licenses for are being distributed on the web. It's not because they're licensed, because heck, if that was the condition, every anime in existence would be blacklisted and BBT's existence would be rather meek and pointless. No, it's because they're licensed by these particular aforementioned companies for translation/distribution in North America.

Though, when fansub teams or anime torrent sites (like Animesuki) talk about "licensing" they are usually mean by American companies, and usually they are less discriminate about the particular licensing company than BBT is.

[shadowdancer]

Thanks for the info like I said I never really thought about it, because in the Nls they never complained about downloading anime (of course it's a small country and not everyone watches it) and second reason, because with satellite channels it's a total different policy (they can't sue any of those websites (yet) except if they are located in the same continent), I thought it just worked the same way I guess but now I know xD!

[sosamo]

Hi guys, got my first warranty today from Charter in So Cal. It list the company that put in the complaint and the file you download.

Here is a brief breakdown.

Complainer:  TV Tokyo Medianet
File: Bleach 305 by Horrible Subs (FYI, i have been downloaded weekly since like episode 100:D)
Torrent site: Nyan

Now I have to rethink where and what I should download.

I think it's cuz of Crunchyroll. Probably losing money if ppl download the eps. instead of going through them.

[Freedom Kira]

So uh, I appreciate the fact that you did a forum search (or browsed till you found this thread) but do you need help with something?

[Xiong Chiamiov]

He was pointing out, in a thread where we were discussing the probability of getting notices from your ISP, that he received one from a common American ISP for downloading a popular anime.  It's relevant.

[Southrop]

Hi guys, got my first warranty today from Charter in So Cal. It list the company that put in the complaint and the file you download.

Here is a brief breakdown.

Complainer:  TV Tokyo Medianet
File: Bleach 305 by Horrible Subs (FYI, i have been downloaded weekly since like episode 100:D)
Torrent site: Nyan

Now I have to rethink where and what I should download.

I think it's cuz of Crunchyroll. Probably losing money if ppl download the eps. instead of going through them.

No, it's because of TV Tokyo, as you stated in your own post. TV Tokyo is the broadcaster of the show, and as such, they do have some rights to the show. Crunchyroll only owns streaming licenses.

[sackii]

I got the same complaint from my ISP today. Although they did not reveal the company's name but revealed the tracker was nyaatorrent.

Most likely tvtokyo targetted a few popular anime trackers and mass-filed complaints (with, as you said, possibly crunhyroll as sidekick). Im in a country where nobody gives a fuck, law included, about that kind of stuff... they must be serious. Worst case scenario they'll target a few repeating offenders in the next weeks/months.

Don't be the unlucky one heh... It's pretty much harmless to us, they have more to do than individually send lawsuits to everyone. They might go at it randomly on the MANY who ignore those warnings for a long time then report about it to scare people off.