Somebody likes their thread baby.
GT5 as I stated has it's place for fun. As a driving sim, well, I have a car and a streak of luck. B-Spec is sort of fun but fricken long. But it doesn't run around like Forza going, "We're the sporty cool kids and better than everything else." It's a console. Frik, if you want realism, go clean up your room or learn a skill.