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« Reply #200 on: November 26, 2011, 01:59:45 PM »
I had a good laugh at that, lol. It is true, thou.

Edit -- What the fuck is this? -- Ban on SkyRim. And it's made by Blizzard Entertainment? This is real since it's from .gov

Thoughts ... ?

Probably someone trolling. Anyone should be able to create a petition on that site, so it's not actually anything really official. If it gets 25,000 signatures then the government might look at it, but other than that... it's nothing.

I do like the names of some of the signatories though. Indaryn I, Dagoth U, Divayth F, Crassius C. Brings back memories :D

... Oh god, I've heard all of those names. I think almost all of them are from Morrowind, aren't they? It's been a long time, but they all sound really familiar.

<Incoming wall of text about my experiences in Skyrim>

Anyhow, as for Skyrim... I've got 2 characters so far. One of them is a 2h warrior/archer/thief with heavy armor. Unfortunately due to the extremely limited perk system (which I think needs major fixing up because it's so limiting), I've had to scale it down to being just a 2h warrior. It's about 45 or so? Last I checked anyway. On Adept it got so easy after I did some smithing and enchanting that I just ended up quitting the character. I had 70% spell resist and 11xx armor, and my weapon did around 411 or something. Dragons were hilariously weak.

The most dangerous enemy in the game... is not a dragon. It's any generic spellcaster that's above or at an adept rank. Especially dangerous are Forsworn spellcasters. Especially if you see a Briarheart doing it. If you don't have a massive amount of magic resist and you see a spellcasting Briarheart, stay the fuck back. Seriously. Stay. The. Fuck. Back. You have to have a serious terrain advantage to win, and you're not gonna do it by being anywhere close to their face (L2Arrow). They're tankish enough to even take about 3-4 hits from me, too. In a few spells though they did about 200 of my health. If I didn't have 70% magic resist, that would have been somewhere over 650 damage. Which is larger than my health bar (550). I managed to kill it before it killed me, naturally, but for most characters he would have killed them in one hit.

Right now, I'm playing a true thief character. I haven't done any smithing or enchanting on this one, and it's about level 2x (23,25? somewhere around there). What I hate is that outdoor sneaking seems to be damn well near impossible. At some points it pissed me off so much I just quit for a while (which is where I am right now). What kind of makes it worth it, though, is those one hit assassinations you get on the bosses if you manage to sneak up on them. That is what makes it kind of worth it... until you realize that everyone else now knows you're there because your character doesn't know how to do stealth kills.

Completed the Dark Brotherhood quests (by the way, anyone got the Lucien ghost? FUCKING AWESOME!  Best character in any ES game, ever), working on Thieves guild. Rather, I want to work on the Thieves Guild but I've still got that 1.58k fine in Solitude for uhh... y'know.. the thing with the guy in the Dark Brotherhood quest (not gonna spoil it). They won't let me pay it off without forfeiting stolen goods, so I tried sneaking up to the gate while killing every guard on the way (again, it was outdoor sneaking... that shit was HARD), went into the gate, guard saw me instantly. Guess I'll have to put my stolen goods in a box somewhere and then just pay off the fine.

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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #201 on: November 27, 2011, 02:23:49 AM »
Once Skyrim drops to $40 or less, I intend to bring back my Kajit Thief from Morrowind.  I'm assuming / hoping that it will drop in price during this year's Christmas sale.  There's a special place in my heart for Thieves & stealth games in general... I loved the Thief series, though I never actually completed Thief 3.
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« Reply #202 on: November 27, 2011, 02:35:35 AM »
While I am playing a Khajiit myself as a sneaky character, I must say that I am drowning in cash without investing anything in the pickpocket skill. The only cool pickpocket skill is extra pockets that increases you carry weight by 100 points.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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« Reply #203 on: November 27, 2011, 03:32:51 AM »
While I am playing a Khajiit myself as a sneaky character, I must say that I am drowning in cash without investing anything in the pickpocket skill. The only cool pickpocket skill is extra pockets that increases you carry weight by 100 points.


That's how I've been going through as well.  Money doesn't really all that matter in this game.  I don't even buy anything. 

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« Reply #204 on: November 27, 2011, 06:20:12 AM »
That's because as a thief, Dark Brotherhood armor is just clearly the best shit in the game.

If you play a warrior, you'll be more pressed for cash, because you'll keep spending money upgrading and building new gear.

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« Reply #205 on: November 27, 2011, 07:31:11 AM »
That's because as a thief, Dark Brotherhood armor is just clearly the best shit in the game.

If you play a warrior, you'll be more pressed for cash, because you'll keep spending money upgrading and building new gear.
Better than Daedric?


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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #206 on: November 27, 2011, 08:30:54 AM »
That's because as a thief, Dark Brotherhood armor is just clearly the best shit in the game.

If you play a warrior, you'll be more pressed for cash, because you'll keep spending money upgrading and building new gear.
Better than Daedric?
Have you seen the bonuses on Brotherhood armor and clothing? For a thief those are WAY more important than armor rating.

About the money issue. I'm a sword+cast warrior (with focus on the sword) and I use heavy armor. I really haven't had to spend money on armor and such, I made do with what I found. I rarely bought anything at all (including potions). The only time I actually spent money was on houses.
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« Reply #207 on: November 27, 2011, 08:31:57 AM »
Brotherhood armor = the difference between 15x dmg backstabs and 30x dmg backstabs.

I rest my case.

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« Reply #208 on: November 27, 2011, 10:58:38 AM »
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Wall of Storms : shitloads of lightning damage :)+ Desintegrating perk = WOOT!

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« Reply #209 on: November 27, 2011, 11:32:02 AM »
Brotherhood armor = the difference between 15x dmg backstabs and 30x dmg backstabs.

I rest my case.

They were nice, but I don't need them any more. Even 15x is an instakill every time with my legendary daedric dagger (yes, finally stopped using Mehrunes Razor). Basically now that I am level 47, those enchantments are unnecessary at this point. Even the hood which gave me 35% bow damage increase is usually not needed.

Either way light armour is light, so I have both my nightinggale one for doing the sneaky stuff, but switch to my legendary dragonscale with frost and fire resistances when I fight dragons. The give me roughøy 400 armor rating so far and I am not even maxed out in light armour skill.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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« Reply #210 on: November 27, 2011, 07:05:35 PM »
Brotherhood armor = the difference between 15x dmg backstabs and 30x dmg backstabs.

I rest my case.

They were nice, but I don't need them any more. Even 15x is an instakill every time with my legendary daedric dagger (yes, finally stopped using Mehrunes Razor). Basically now that I am level 47, those enchantments are unnecessary at this point. Even the hood which gave me 35% bow damage increase is usually not needed.

Either way light armour is light, so I have both my nightinggale one for doing the sneaky stuff, but switch to my legendary dragonscale with frost and fire resistances when I fight dragons. The give me roughøy 400 armor rating so far and I am not even maxed out in light armour skill.
lol Yea the question is would that fucking shit allow me to survive the heavy hits I get since I'm level like 78 or 79? Because Daedric is barely putting out with 1400+ Armor Rating. I have to re-invest some points in Block and I have to re-do a piece or two for pure Blockage and the other for more 2 hander damage out put.

Backstab works nicely on a single target, not multiple targets and specially when they're Deathlords who shout at you one after the other.


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« Reply #211 on: November 28, 2011, 07:14:40 AM »
My 100 sneak assassin has NO problem dealing with multiple targets.  I can even backstab dragons.  It's downright silly.

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« Reply #212 on: November 28, 2011, 08:57:08 AM »
My 100 sneak assassin has NO problem dealing with multiple targets.  I can even backstab dragons.  It's downright silly.
Oh I know about the dragon parts. The dragons aren't the problem. When you're facing different enemies and among them are Deathlords. What level are you right now? Because level 40, 50 and 60 is a fucking joke compared to 75+ enemies to be honest.


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« Reply #213 on: November 28, 2011, 10:52:12 AM »
Brotherhood armor = the difference between 15x dmg backstabs and 30x dmg backstabs.

I rest my case.

They were nice, but I don't need them any more. Even 15x is an instakill every time with my legendary daedric dagger (yes, finally stopped using Mehrunes Razor). Basically now that I am level 47, those enchantments are unnecessary at this point. Even the hood which gave me 35% bow damage increase is usually not needed.

Either way light armour is light, so I have both my nightinggale one for doing the sneaky stuff, but switch to my legendary dragonscale with frost and fire resistances when I fight dragons. The give me roughøy 400 armor rating so far and I am not even maxed out in light armour skill.
lol Yea the question is would that fucking shit allow me to survive the heavy hits I get since I'm level like 78 or 79? Because Daedric is barely putting out with 1400+ Armor Rating. I have to re-invest some points in Block and I have to re-do a piece or two for pure Blockage and the other for more 2 hander damage out put.

Backstab works nicely on a single target, not multiple targets and specially when they're Deathlords who shout at you one after the other.

Actually, from what I've read, the armor cap is around like... 570? In other words, anything over that is just wasted.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Armor#Armor_Cap

567 actually.

ie, you have over twice (closer to 3x?) the effective armor cap.

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« Reply #214 on: November 28, 2011, 10:56:27 AM »
That disappoints me.  If I understand that correctly, the heavy armor tree has some wasted points for me since I can reach the DR cap so quickly without it.

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« Reply #215 on: November 28, 2011, 11:21:48 AM »
Someone said frost trolls were hard to defeat... was that a joke? I was killing those in 10 seconds even before hitting level 20.

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« Reply #216 on: November 28, 2011, 12:17:35 PM »
Someone said frost trolls were hard to defeat... was that a joke? I was killing those in 10 seconds even before hitting level 20.
Yeah...no. I met at least a dozen trolls before 10. I had to FUS RO DAH and run and like hell. Also what difficulty are you on? I played on one less than the highest.

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« Reply #217 on: November 28, 2011, 01:32:48 PM »
I played normal to "feel the moves"
made a new char and played hard, and frost trolls are not hard to beat, and they get easier the higher the level they are, you just need the proper strategy:
Frost Breath (lvl 3 if you can) slows them down a notch and keeps dealing damage, then you just fire breath once and if you are an archer just keep moving back and shoot away, don't forget to Frost Breath them ASAP again, good to have [Fire Damage] Bow if you are an archer, but [fire damage] weapon is just as good if you are any other type of fighter.

If you keep having problems and you are near a city just kite the bastard to the city guards, they are good canon fodder and you can keep shooting or backstabing the bastard cuz he will more likely get theirs attention anyway.

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« Reply #218 on: November 28, 2011, 01:39:09 PM »
I just play on normal.  Don't see the point to making combat harder, it will still be meh (Skyrim combat is the biggest weakpoint of the game).

For me, skyrim is about the exploration.  Increasing difficulty would just make exploration take even longer.  I keep it normal difficulty so there's still some element of risk, but it's not needlessly frustrating.

If combat in skyrim was better, I'd crank that difficulty up. 

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« Reply #219 on: November 28, 2011, 01:46:47 PM »
I think that spellcasters and archers are the most fun enemies in this game, they can hide and cover or caste defensive spells.

For some reason magicka drain on Dragons is really bothering them, they don't breathe their attacks as often when you drain their magicka, though I have no idea why is that working on them, cuz they use their form of SHOUT on you which doesn't use magicka.

Maybe this will be fixed in some patch later on cuz that makes a really stupid fight tbh.