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Offline undetz

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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #220 on: November 28, 2011, 02:42:46 PM »
Someone said frost trolls were hard to defeat... was that a joke? I was killing those in 10 seconds even before hitting level 20.
Yeah...no. I met at least a dozen trolls before 10. I had to FUS RO DAH and run and like hell. Also what difficulty are you on? I played on one less than the highest.
Two over the preset, or something? I'm not at home so I can't check what it's called, but the method really should work on any difficulty.

Dual wielding destruction spells with the Impact perk means permastun, the enemies don't even get to attack. If you're low on magicka you can just spam the apprentice-level spells. Even that dragon priest you run across during the Mages College questline didn't get off a single shot at me.
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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #221 on: November 28, 2011, 07:07:25 PM »
Brotherhood armor = the difference between 15x dmg backstabs and 30x dmg backstabs.

I rest my case.

They were nice, but I don't need them any more. Even 15x is an instakill every time with my legendary daedric dagger (yes, finally stopped using Mehrunes Razor). Basically now that I am level 47, those enchantments are unnecessary at this point. Even the hood which gave me 35% bow damage increase is usually not needed.

Either way light armour is light, so I have both my nightinggale one for doing the sneaky stuff, but switch to my legendary dragonscale with frost and fire resistances when I fight dragons. The give me roughøy 400 armor rating so far and I am not even maxed out in light armour skill.
lol Yea the question is would that fucking shit allow me to survive the heavy hits I get since I'm level like 78 or 79? Because Daedric is barely putting out with 1400+ Armor Rating. I have to re-invest some points in Block and I have to re-do a piece or two for pure Blockage and the other for more 2 hander damage out put.

Backstab works nicely on a single target, not multiple targets and specially when they're Deathlords who shout at you one after the other.

Actually, from what I've read, the armor cap is around like... 570? In other words, anything over that is just wasted.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Armor#Armor_Cap

567 actually.

ie, you have over twice (closer to 3x?) the effective armor cap.
I've tested that out, about your armor cap information. The information is incorrect. Taking off a piece of armor puts me down to about 700 armor rating. With that, I saved the game and went up to some enemies and they ate through me pretty quick. I placed back the one piece I took off and gained back 1200ish armor rating. It took them about twice the length to kill me.

Maybe it's a bug?

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Aside from this, I'm going to Greybeards and start on those quests.


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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #222 on: November 28, 2011, 09:57:22 PM »
Brotherhood armor = the difference between 15x dmg backstabs and 30x dmg backstabs.

I rest my case.

They were nice, but I don't need them any more. Even 15x is an instakill every time with my legendary daedric dagger (yes, finally stopped using Mehrunes Razor). Basically now that I am level 47, those enchantments are unnecessary at this point. Even the hood which gave me 35% bow damage increase is usually not needed.

Either way light armour is light, so I have both my nightinggale one for doing the sneaky stuff, but switch to my legendary dragonscale with frost and fire resistances when I fight dragons. The give me roughøy 400 armor rating so far and I am not even maxed out in light armour skill.
lol Yea the question is would that fucking shit allow me to survive the heavy hits I get since I'm level like 78 or 79? Because Daedric is barely putting out with 1400+ Armor Rating. I have to re-invest some points in Block and I have to re-do a piece or two for pure Blockage and the other for more 2 hander damage out put.

Backstab works nicely on a single target, not multiple targets and specially when they're Deathlords who shout at you one after the other.

Actually, from what I've read, the armor cap is around like... 570? In other words, anything over that is just wasted.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Armor#Armor_Cap

567 actually.

ie, you have over twice (closer to 3x?) the effective armor cap.
I've tested that out, about your armor cap information. The information is incorrect. Taking off a piece of armor puts me down to about 700 armor rating. With that, I saved the game and went up to some enemies and they ate through me pretty quick. I placed back the one piece I took off and gained back 1200ish armor rating. It took them about twice the length to kill me.

Maybe it's a bug?

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Aside from this, I'm going to Greybeards and start on those quests.

I believe it depends on how many pieces you're actually wearing, too.

So, take a basic non-smithed Daedric set and put it on (should come to the armor cap, dunno), and then compare... or maybe try replacing two or three of your components with steel armor or something. Just make sure you've got an entire suit on.

There's a topic on gamefaqs where some guy has a 1800 suit and a 1000 suit, and they both decreased damage done by the same amount.

Cute, huh?

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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #223 on: November 30, 2011, 09:16:04 AM »
Skyrim sounds really Japanese in Japanese. Not only Famitsu gave this game a 40/40 score, but this became the first Western game overall to achieve 40 out of 40.

What also made me mad is the voice acting in Japanese is better than the English version - sigh. Listen to the video.


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« Reply #224 on: November 30, 2011, 10:33:16 AM »
Because this is what I always say, English dubs suck balls ... ;)

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« Reply #225 on: November 30, 2011, 11:24:17 AM »
Skyrim sounds really Japanese in Japanese. Not only Famitsu gave this game a 40/40 score, but this became the first Western game overall to achieve 40 out of 40.

What also made me mad is the voice acting in Japanese is better than the English version - sigh. Listen to the video.

Same reason why Nehrim sounds so fucking good. The German voice acting there is simply fantastic and those modders/devs said that they didn't bother with English voice acting because it either becomes crappy and affordable or really expensive. Also I wonder how Ulfric Stormcloak sound in that Japanese version.
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« Reply #226 on: November 30, 2011, 12:56:56 PM »
Except those female voices in the jap dub make me want to hit my head through a wall and and cement it in.

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« Reply #227 on: November 30, 2011, 01:01:19 PM »
The Japanese actually have a voice acting industry.  They have a large pool of talented people to draw from.

Half the times American game makers just pick up a dozen people at the bus station and give them 100 dollars to record their voices...

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« Reply #228 on: November 30, 2011, 01:37:08 PM »
But then Relic collects the most amazing voice actors that beat the shit out of all those Japanese chipmunks...
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« Reply #229 on: November 30, 2011, 01:57:01 PM »
It's damn awesome when you see voice actors doing their work, and then play the games and think:

GOD DAMN THIS IS ONE AWESOME VOICE CASTING!!!!
Sometimes when I play Warhammer 40K games, I wonder if the characters don't live really, cuz you can't be this good.
Relic DOES probably the best voiced games in the history of the Imperium :)

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« Reply #230 on: December 02, 2011, 12:55:14 PM »
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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« Reply #231 on: December 02, 2011, 01:35:08 PM »
OH YEAH !
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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #232 on: December 02, 2011, 04:28:27 PM »
The Japanese actually have a voice acting industry.  They have a large pool of talented people to draw from.

Half the times American game makers just pick up a dozen people at the bus station and give them 100 dollars to record their voices...
That's actually not that far from the truth. My brother did some voice acting under reasonably similar circumstances.

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« Reply #233 on: December 02, 2011, 05:16:20 PM »
Another cool pic I found:



This gives me some ideas about other possible faces...
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« Reply #234 on: December 02, 2011, 06:17:36 PM »
Need that one, need the numbers for it :)
But Oblivion gave a lot more freedom in character making :D

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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #235 on: December 04, 2011, 09:12:32 PM »
Ei guys, I just recently got addicted to Skyrim and after I beat that dragon up the mountain near Winterhold, I absorbed it's power but I didn't learn a new shout. Is this a bug or something? (Pic related)


Anyways, the game have a lot of good stuff (dragons, radiant AI, dual-wield) and bad stuff (spellcrafting is gone).. But still I was hoping for more improvements than these.. IE: parkour-like wall-climbing similar to Assassin's creed. And maybe adopting the (mounted/unmounted) velocity based swordplay of Mount&Blade as well as it's superb HORSEBACK ARCHERY... 'coz it's annoying having to dismount just to hack at the wolves nipping at my feet, nor is it funny that my dragonborn can't even climb a fence without a ladder on it. I want to at least be able to run on rooftops with my khajiti assassin and maybe throw some poisoned daggers and set some traps.. :( on a lighter note: I also want to kidnap people, and snatch their faces and drag them up a wall like the main character in prototype.. (and bash their head in on the gutter. Oh yes! fun times)

But despite the vast landscape of Skyrim and climbing up mountains and such,  I can't even climb the roof of my own house.. haha. Anyways, the radiant AI/quests is fun and a great improvement that keeps things dynamic, so I'll probably still get addicted to this game for a few more days. heh..

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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #236 on: December 04, 2011, 09:20:55 PM »
You have to go to the Magic screen, scroll down to "Shouts", select the one you want and unlock it.

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« Reply #237 on: December 04, 2011, 09:30:31 PM »
You have to go to the Magic screen, scroll down to "Shouts", select the one you want and unlock it.

But no new power word was learned from killing it, unlike the first dragon I've slain in Whiterun which gave me unrelenting force.
So far I only got 2 shouts (the other one I learned from the greybeards) but I've already killed 3 dragons in total. (the other dragon I killed near Riften) So.. the only important things I got from the two recent dragons I've slain were their bones and scales?

The weird thing is that there was this flashing lights and then a message pops out that I've absorbed it's dragon power. And yet, I didn't get any new shout or power word for it.. :/

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« Reply #238 on: December 04, 2011, 10:06:07 PM »
But no new power word was learned from killing it, unlike the first dragon I've slain in Whiterun which gave me unrelenting force.

WRONG.

You learned Unrelenting Force in Bleakfalls Barrow, the same place where you found the stone tablet for the court wizard. However only after slaying your first dragon could you actually use it.

Words of power are learned from curved walls (greybeards and a few other sources), dragon souls are needed to unlock the already known words.

EDIT: here is a site to explain it in detail and to reveal locations of words of power.
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For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: Elder Scrolls V : Skyrim
« Reply #239 on: December 05, 2011, 02:48:34 AM »
But no new power word was learned from killing it, unlike the first dragon I've slain in Whiterun which gave me unrelenting force.

WRONG.

You learned Unrelenting Force in Bleakfalls Barrow, the same place where you found the stone tablet for the court wizard. However only after slaying your first dragon could you actually use it.

Words of power are learned from curved walls (greybeards and a few other sources), dragon souls are needed to unlock the already known words.

EDIT: here is a site to explain it in detail and to reveal locations of words of power.

Sweet! I was wondering why I can't use some of the words of power I've found while dungeon diving. (like animal call and such. Or maybe it needed more power words or something) But what happens If you don't have the right words of power yet when I kill a certain dragon, would it still unlock the right shout even after I've killed the right dragon ages ago?

Also, does anyone know the stats of Bound weaponry? Is it static or does it scale along with your level? does it have a limit cap? If so, which is stronger at maximum character level: Bound weapons or Daedric weapons (when fully upgraded with a master smith)?

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