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Offline Fool010

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #120 on: February 01, 2011, 11:40:46 PM »
it is because in some series the writers use and exploit our affections to get impact.and i dont like be manipulated like that

You're puzzling me on this. That's what  storytelling is all about, manipulating your audience to get a response. Depending on the response you're aiming for, the means will be different.

I may be wrong, but it sounds like you're putting your own expectations above the writer's intentions.

Your point about TTGL is the prime example for that
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. It's what you would like to happen, but it doesn't make sense.

You're also misreading the Rock/Revy relation from Black Lagoon. It's built on a mix of fascination and repulsion, each of them represents both what they lack and somehow long for, while at the same time loathing it. Trying to build a romance on such a basis would make no sense, unless you consider giving to the 'main guy always gets main girl' trope is reason enough.

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #121 on: February 02, 2011, 12:20:34 AM »
Actually there is every reason for
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as for Black Lagoon it is quite clear in the last bit of the last episode of the second season that Revy and Rock has something happen, she does not want to talk about it

and i think i have every right to care about how i feel about the story as much as the writers..in fact if they are good at their job as well as good at their craft they will create stories that do progress logically and reaonsonably rather than jerk us back and forth and use denial and counter intuitive plot breaks and diversions to create tension. I am tired of tension and defeat being the liet motife of modern media.

Tatsujin says it in a couple of sentences..what i have been trying to express in three posts:

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Story doesn't follow along. Story is very critical (with everything else). The story in anime should follow suit from episode to episode or/and create a build-up or between characters and changing their behaviors.
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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #122 on: February 02, 2011, 12:30:06 AM »
and i think i have every right to care about how i feel about the story as much as the writers..in fact if they are good at their job as well as good at their craft they will create stories that do progress logically and reaonsonably rather than jerk us back and forth and use denial and counter intuitive plot breaks and diversions to create tension. I am tired of tension and defeat being the liet motife of modern media.

I will stick to my point, whatever smoke screen you're using ... you do want stories to tread down the path you expect them to. You may phrase it 'progress logically and reasonnably', it actually means 'go the way I'd like it to'. BTW, how can you have Code Geass as fave and insist on coherence and logic ? The second season especially is a narrative trainwreck with no coherence and logic at all. Not to mention the most moronic concept crowning the whole thing
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, the same crap resurfacing in a slightly altered form in Gundam 00 too.

You're also partly contradicting Tatsujin's statement in the sense that the 'set from the start/carved in stone/obvious' relationships you're wishing for go against the -changing behaviour- part of his statement.

You want easy to follow relationships ? Your pick, just don't go stating that anything that doesn't stick to that model is no good. Even real life doesn't follow that pattern. You're just downgrading relationships to the status of some decorative element, kinda like 'stick to the bare essentials and don't confuse us'.
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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #123 on: February 02, 2011, 01:50:17 AM »
Girls falling for cardboard main protagonists.There,I just named 90 % of harem themed anime.
The guy is an obvious douche with absolutely no redeeming quality except that sometimes he gives a fuck.Wow,he gives a fuck ! It's so fucking rare.
Let's shower him with 100+ girls .I mean,come on,he holds an umbrella when it's raining and all of a sudden he's a knight is shining armor.A bloody umbrella and he's the one you are going to marry?
It's like watching Twilight but the vampires/girls being mildly interesting...still sparkly though.
I stop watching any anime when shit like this happens.I'm sick and tired of writers inserting themselves in the anime.  
Worst offender :Tenjou Tenge.
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Also,again,worthless main protagonist inherits,receives a power from someone and people look at him like he did something amazing and after that all he does is train with power.Big fucking woop.
It's like bringing a gun to a fist fight,shooting the opponents and then bragging and receiving applauds for being such an awesome fist fighter.
Worst offender:Again,freaking Tenjou Tenge:
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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #124 on: February 02, 2011, 03:12:47 PM »
when shit is just bout to go down , liek in naruto shippuden very often ..... .then its a another week to next episode !!!  :-X :-X

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #125 on: February 02, 2011, 03:33:25 PM »
when shit is just bout to go down , liek in naruto shippuden very often ..... .then its a another week to next episode !!!  :-X :-X

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #126 on: February 02, 2011, 03:54:17 PM »
Cliffhangers are like fansevice, when done right, they improve the anime so much.

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #127 on: February 04, 2011, 11:47:03 PM »
here's one that doesn't seem to have been mentioned:
gratuitous use of filler episodes aka *cough cough* naruto *cough cough*
a few fillers here and there are ok but when the number of filler episodes nearly equals the number of non-filler episodes in a long running series it gets old quick since fillers by nature can't progress the storyline therefore the series starts to stagnate when too many fillers are strung together in a row

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #128 on: February 05, 2011, 07:15:11 AM »
here's one that doesn't seem to have been mentioned:
gratuitous use of filler episodes aka *cough cough* naruto *cough cough*
a few fillers here and there are ok but when the number of filler episodes nearly equals the number of non-filler episodes in a long running series it gets old quick since fillers by nature can't progress the storyline therefore the series starts to stagnate when too many fillers are strung together in a row

Lol. Bleach too, I think all of boxset 8 and a bit of boxset 9 are fillers, well, the one I had were.

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #129 on: February 05, 2011, 07:21:05 AM »
It's not a problem of filler versus canon, it's just a problem of good or bad writing. Neither the fact there's filler material, nor even the amount of filler is a problem per se, what matters is the quality of the material and it mostly isn't good stuff.

since fillers by nature can't progress the storyline

Wrong, One Piece manages to have meaningful filler material. The fillers in Naruto and Bleach are just sloppy storytelling..
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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #130 on: February 06, 2011, 02:06:27 PM »
I hate schmaltzy melodrama and the reusing of the same plot over and over and over and over.  I understand that the girl is a tomboy who beats up on the wallflower weakling boy she's secrtly in love with and that the crystal must be found before the evil GooGooBean takes over the universe...but does every single movie have to have the same plot?

Fan service also really annoys me.  I'm too old to care about animated ass and it makes my girlfriend annoyed, too.

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #131 on: February 06, 2011, 02:13:31 PM »
I hate schmaltzy melodrama and the reusing of the same plot over and over and over and over.  I understand that the girl is a tomboy who beats up on the wallflower weakling boy she's secrtly in love with and that the crystal must be found before the evil GooGooBean takes over the universe...but does every single movie have to have the same plot?

Fan service also really annoys me.  I'm too old to care about animated ass and it makes my girlfriend annoyed, too.
You should only watch Politics from here on out, every anime genre reuses the same plot over and over and over and over again, either make more sense with your thoughts or stop bothering yourself with any entertainment.

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #132 on: February 06, 2011, 02:17:41 PM »
I usually drop a show when it's totally usually full of fanservice scenes with little progress on the story itself. And yeah, fillers. A reason why I don't stick with epic-length shows. What else... Gainax endings?

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #133 on: February 06, 2011, 02:23:54 PM »
I usually drop a show when it's totally usually full of fanservice scenes with little progress on the story itself. And yeah, fillers. A reason why I don't stick with epic-length shows. What else... Gainax endings?
So....when did you watch any anime last time, one that you finished ?
in 1996 ?

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #134 on: February 06, 2011, 02:34:25 PM »
I usually drop a show when it's totally usually full of fanservice scenes with little progress on the story itself. And yeah, fillers. A reason why I don't stick with epic-length shows. What else... Gainax endings?
So....when did you watch any anime last time, one that you finished ?
in 1996 ?
Not exactly. XD

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #135 on: February 06, 2011, 05:11:58 PM »
I hate schmaltzy melodrama and the reusing of the same plot over and over and over and over.  I understand that the girl is a tomboy who beats up on the wallflower weakling boy she's secrtly in love with and that the crystal must be found before the evil GooGooBean takes over the universe...but does every single movie have to have the same plot?

Fan service also really annoys me.  I'm too old to care about animated ass and it makes my girlfriend annoyed, too.
You should only watch Politics from here on out, every anime genre reuses the same plot over and over and over and over again, either make more sense with your thoughts or stop bothering yourself with any entertainment.





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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #136 on: February 06, 2011, 05:55:26 PM »
Here are some of mine

-When the enemy is said to be absolutely strong and they get beat in one hit. (One Piece, Fairy Tail)
-When an anime is said to be about something awesome, but is instead about something stupid (K-ON!)
-When you have a good show going, then ruin it with filler (Naruto)
-When you use fanservice/ecchi for your jokes (Eiken, Panty and Stocking)
-In a romantic comedy, when it's predictable that the two main characters are going to get together (Toradora, Clannad)

These are just a few.
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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #137 on: February 06, 2011, 10:30:05 PM »
I hate schmaltzy melodrama and the reusing of the same plot over and over and over and over.  I understand that the girl is a tomboy who beats up on the wallflower weakling boy she's secrtly in love with and that the crystal must be found before the evil GooGooBean takes over the universe...but does every single movie have to have the same plot?

Fan service also really annoys me.  I'm too old to care about animated ass and it makes my girlfriend annoyed, too.
You should only watch Politics from here on out, every anime genre reuses the same plot over and over and over and over again, either make more sense with your thoughts or stop bothering yourself with any entertainment.

....Then why suggests Politics?    Same shit really ???

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #138 on: February 06, 2011, 11:18:18 PM »
Here are some of mine

-When the enemy is said to be absolutely strong and they get beat in one hit. (One Piece, Fairy Tail)
-When an anime is said to be about something awesome, but is instead about something stupid (K-ON!)
-When you have a good show going, then ruin it with filler (Naruto)
-When you use fanservice/ecchi for your jokes (Eiken, Panty and Stocking)
-In a romantic comedy, when it's predictable that the two main characters are going to get together (Toradora, Clannad)

These are just a few.

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Re: What event occuring in anime do you hate the most?
« Reply #139 on: February 07, 2011, 02:15:25 AM »
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