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Proin Drakenzol:

--- Quote from: AceHigh on January 12, 2011, 04:10:16 PM ---Also, Eldar? They suck in tabletop and in dawn of war....

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1) I don't play tabletop Warhammer 40,000 (though I'm familiar with it, of course), just the Dawn of War games.
2) Space elves are awesome.


And all of the sides have good PC classes available.

Eldar in particular have:[*]Farseer[*]Warlock[*]Warp Spider[*]Ranger[*]Howling Banshee[/list]

Sosseres:

--- Quote from: Proin Drakenzol on January 13, 2011, 11:26:13 AM ---Howling Banshee

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Sad they nerfed those in DoW 2 beta.

AceHigh:
Ever notice how much damage a necron squad takes from eldar guardian squad?  ;D

No but seriously, Avatar is the most OP unit in DoW and the only real bonus about eldar. However in order to balance Eldar's ridiculous ability to cloak their entire base, it was offset by making their units weak in firepower and hitpoints. That's what I meant by them being weak, not as a race, but just the units and their average firepower.

As for the concept, I agree that space elves are awesome, but then again the concept of space orks is the most genius concept I have ever seen. Did you know that ork weapons only work because an ork believes it will work? Mechanically no ork weapons or vehicles should be able to function. Actually in tabletop there is a rule that orkish vehicle will get 5% speed bonus if they are painted red because orks believe that "Red makes things go fasta!!!"

By the way, don't forget that Dark millenium will not restrict itself to units from Dawn of War. So we may see units like:

Dire Avenger ("normal" warriors, personally I believe in DoW they should be represented as normal ranged infantry instead of guardian squad that are only a militia, aka civilians at war)
Striking Scorpions (male counterparts to howling banshees, they are also stealthy and have superiour armour)
Swooping hawk (airborn infantry with wings)

damn.... I am getting too exited about this game way too early.



--- Quote ---Sad they nerfed those in DoW 2 beta.
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Then again comparing DoW and DoW 2 is like comparing Age of Empires with Total War series. They are just too different in gameplay.... also, beta? The second expansion has been out for ages.

Sosseres:

--- Quote from: AceHigh on January 13, 2011, 11:55:37 AM ---
--- Quote ---Sad they nerfed those in DoW 2 beta.
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Then again comparing DoW and DoW 2 is like comparing Age of Empires with Total War series. They are just too different in gameplay.... also, beta? The second expansion has been out for ages.

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So? They still nerfed them in beta and that was the reason I didn't get the game.

AceHigh:
Multiplayer content in DoW 2 is very weak, so I say you did the right thing for the wrong reason. You see, 80% of the game is all about the campaign where you play as space marines and of course blood ravens, no less.

Besides, I never thought of howling banshees as "strong" in the first game either. They lose to most other melee units of other races... except maybe mandrakes, and are completely useless against my beloved seraphim squads.

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