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Offline Proin Drakenzol

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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 06:09:51 AM »
On a side note, there is one MMO that I am waiting for that hopefully will not suck too badly on the release. Anyone heard of 40K Dark millenium?

Dark Millenium
Why is there a slim hope that this will not suck? Because Games Workshop is keeping developers on a tight leash and developers are also tabletop fans. So at least it will be authentic and true.

No Eldar = dumb.

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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2011, 04:10:16 PM »
Oh, but there will be eldar, we have already seen an eldar ranger in the trailer.

The big question is: Who can we play as and who will be NPC only?

My bet is that we can play as any of the numerous organisations in the Imperium, while Orks, Chaos and Eldar will be NPC only. After all Imperium offers a wide selection of characters:

Adeptus Astartes (some chapters have flaws and strengths too)
Adeptus Sororitas
Adeptus Mechanicus (which may include the Collegia Titanica. We have seen titans in action in the trailer)
Adeptus Arbites

Inquisition which would include the following:
Ordo Malleus (which will include the Grey Knights)
Ordo Hereticus (which may include Deathwatch)
Ordo Xenos

Officio Assassinorum (including 6 specialized temples)
Imperial Guard

Of course unfourtunatly it would make sense that at the release we can only play as Adeptus Astartes and maybe also Grey Knights. From a buisness point of view it makes sense that they would give us more classes with expansion packs however.

Also, Eldar? They suck in tabletop and in dawn of war....
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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2011, 08:41:06 PM »
^ There better be open world mass pvp in this.

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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2011, 12:21:01 AM »
Adeptus Sororitas

Might be interesting.

I doubt I will get it at release though, perhaps if the reviews and opinions are very good I'll get it after the first month is over.

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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2011, 10:27:23 AM »
Adeptus Sororitas

Might be interesting.

I doubt I will get it at release though, perhaps if the reviews and opinions are very good I'll get it after the first month is over.
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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2011, 11:26:13 AM »
Also, Eldar? They suck in tabletop and in dawn of war....

1) I don't play tabletop Warhammer 40,000 (though I'm familiar with it, of course), just the Dawn of War games.
2) Space elves are awesome.


And all of the sides have good PC classes available.

Eldar in particular have:
  • Farseer
  • Warlock
  • Warp Spider
  • Ranger
  • Howling Banshee

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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2011, 11:50:18 AM »
Howling Banshee

Sad they nerfed those in DoW 2 beta.

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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2011, 11:55:37 AM »
Ever notice how much damage a necron squad takes from eldar guardian squad?  ;D

No but seriously, Avatar is the most OP unit in DoW and the only real bonus about eldar. However in order to balance Eldar's ridiculous ability to cloak their entire base, it was offset by making their units weak in firepower and hitpoints. That's what I meant by them being weak, not as a race, but just the units and their average firepower.

As for the concept, I agree that space elves are awesome, but then again the concept of space orks is the most genius concept I have ever seen. Did you know that ork weapons only work because an ork believes it will work? Mechanically no ork weapons or vehicles should be able to function. Actually in tabletop there is a rule that orkish vehicle will get 5% speed bonus if they are painted red because orks believe that "Red makes things go fasta!!!"

By the way, don't forget that Dark millenium will not restrict itself to units from Dawn of War. So we may see units like:

Dire Avenger ("normal" warriors, personally I believe in DoW they should be represented as normal ranged infantry instead of guardian squad that are only a militia, aka civilians at war)
Striking Scorpions (male counterparts to howling banshees, they are also stealthy and have superiour armour)
Swooping hawk (airborn infantry with wings)

damn.... I am getting too exited about this game way too early.


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Sad they nerfed those in DoW 2 beta.
Then again comparing DoW and DoW 2 is like comparing Age of Empires with Total War series. They are just too different in gameplay.... also, beta? The second expansion has been out for ages.
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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2011, 12:00:31 PM »
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Sad they nerfed those in DoW 2 beta.
Then again comparing DoW and DoW 2 is like comparing Age of Empires with Total War series. They are just too different in gameplay.... also, beta? The second expansion has been out for ages.

So? They still nerfed them in beta and that was the reason I didn't get the game.

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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2011, 12:29:04 PM »
Multiplayer content in DoW 2 is very weak, so I say you did the right thing for the wrong reason. You see, 80% of the game is all about the campaign where you play as space marines and of course blood ravens, no less.

Besides, I never thought of howling banshees as "strong" in the first game either. They lose to most other melee units of other races... except maybe mandrakes, and are completely useless against my beloved seraphim squads.
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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2011, 06:51:31 PM »
Multiplayer content in DoW 2 is very weak, so I say you did the right thing for the wrong reason. You see, 80% of the game is all about the campaign where you play as space marines and of course blood ravens, no less.

Besides, I never thought of howling banshees as "strong" in the first game either. They lose to most other melee units of other races... except maybe mandrakes, and are completely useless against my beloved seraphim squads.

That is because they got nerfed in the beta. Prior to that (large) nerf they were the most cost effective unit. ^^

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Re: All MMO suck at launch?
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2011, 07:37:19 PM »
Ok, if you say so... i find it surprising that already two people in this thread like eldar as they are the most unpopular race along with tau in DoW community.

Also, not to derail, here is a link relevant to Dark Millenium:

Interview

As you see THQ are tight lipped about it.

Also look closely at 2:50, it seems that it will at least have the run and aim mechanics, none of those shitty tab targeting ones like WoW.
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