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Offline tigresssgold

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Am I seeding correctly?
« on: January 26, 2011, 04:24:34 AM »
Sorry! I know this question has most likely been asked before, but I just want to make sure everything is clear.
I want to follow the guidelines of this website because I think it's awesome :D
I'm new here, and I finally downloaded the series Kuragehime (AKA: Jellyfish Princess), and I downloaded all 11 episodes.
I guess the first time I downloaded it, I closed out immediately, not giving it enough time to seed.

Well, I read on the FAQ that you need to start it again, so I re-opened the torrent and hit "Force Start" so now it's downloading. It says I have 48 of 75 seeded, but it keeps changing. Sometimes it'll be 49/75 or 52/75, but it never rises above that.
I really want to keep downloading anime, but I know I'll get banned if I can't seed back @_@"
But I'm having major difficulties! This is also because I'm new (especially to the "high-tech" stuff, I've been on computers since I was 6, but it was surfing the internet, not downloading, etc.)

I downloaded the Hamtaro Movie 4, and it's completed, but it says 0 of 1 (22 in swarm) connected.
It's on Force Start but nothing's changed (and it's been 1-2 hours).
Current status for Jellyfish Princess is 49/76 (okay, that's new. It went from 75 to 76)

Maybe I'm just not understanding any of this... @_@;
Sorry!

(*****BTW, my ratio is 0.013!!! )  :-\
« Last Edit: January 26, 2011, 04:26:57 AM by tigresssgold »

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2011, 04:46:30 AM »
You shouldn't need to force start, but I think the issue you are over-looking is the simple fact that with so many other available seeds the number of leechers that will need to connect to you are reduced. Just cuz you have a torrent seeding does not necessarily mean anyone will need to connect to you for data. The best way to really ensure maximum upload speeds at all times is to have a large variety of torrents seeding so when one is not in demand another can take its place.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2011, 04:48:40 AM by Soryon »

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2011, 04:50:15 AM »
You shouldn't need to force start, but I think the issue you are over-looking is the simple fact that with so many other available seeds the number of leechers that will need to connect to you are reduced. Just cuz you have a torrent seeding does not necessarily mean anyone will need to connect to you for data. The best way to really ensure maximum upload speeds at all times is to have a large variety of torrents seeding so when one is not in demand another can take its place.


So should I leave it as is (is it okay?) or... What?
(thank you for your help, by the way)

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2011, 04:54:02 AM »
By your explanation it sounds like everything is working properly, yes. So just leave it as is and be patient. Alternatively, you could obtain some of the larger, more in demand freeleech torrents. This will offer you more files to share and more leechers to connect to along with the added benefit of being freeleech meaning you will not lose any ratio by downloading them but all uploaded data still counts.

http://bakabt.me/browse.php?ordertype=leechers&q=1080
All the torrents marked [F]

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2011, 05:01:28 AM »
By your explanation it sounds like everything is working properly, yes. So just leave it as is and be patient. Alternatively, you could obtain some of the larger, more in demand freeleech torrents. This will offer you more files to share and more leechers to connect to along with the added benefit of being freeleech meaning you will not lose any ratio by downloading them but all uploaded data still counts.

http://bakabt.me/browse.php?ordertype=leechers&q=1080
All the torrents marked [F]


Alright! Thanks! I wasn't sure if I was doing the right thing, or if the reactions I was getting from it were normal or not.
And I'll definitely be checking out that link!
Thanks again!

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2011, 07:16:57 AM »
Sorry! I know this question has most likely been asked before, but I just want to make sure everything is clear.
I want to follow the guidelines of this website because I think it's awesome :D
It says I have 48 of 75 seeded, but it keeps changing. Sometimes it'll be 49/75 or 52/75, but it never rises above that.
What you're reading there is (likely) the swarm information; there are 48 seeds (people who have finished downloading the file) and 75 leeches (people who have not downloaded all the files).

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I really want to keep downloading anime, but I know I'll get banned if I can't seed back @_@"
Actually, no.  It's a subtle distinction, but your account will be warned with too low of a ratio, which will prevent you from downloading any more* until your ratio raises above the threshold, at which point the warning will be lifted.

Your account will be disabled (banned) if you do something silly, like create multiple accounts to get around warnings.

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I downloaded the Hamtaro Movie 4, and it's completed, but it says 0 of 1 (22 in swarm) connected.
As Soryon pointed out, this is normal, and everything is probably working correctly.  There are just a lot of people for those leechers to choose to download from, so your odds aren't particularly good.

There are some useful entries in the FAQ regarding managing your ratio.  Being proactive (as you are) always helps.
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Offline tigresssgold

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2011, 03:13:44 PM »
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What you're reading there is (likely) the swarm information; there are 48 seeds (people who have finished downloading the file) and 75 leeches (people who have not downloaded all the files).
On the home page of the website, it'll say "# here" and only "# here" unseeded. Is that reliable?

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Actually, no.  It's a subtle distinction, but your account will be warned with too low of a ratio, which will prevent you from downloading any more* until your ratio raises above the threshold, at which point the warning will be lifted.

Your account will be disabled (banned) if you do something silly, like create multiple accounts to get around warnings.

That's a relief! I hope it doesn't get that low, ever. My ratio jumped from 0.014 to 0.031 overnight! Even if that's still low, it's still an improvement. The more I download (and allow to seed) the higher my ratio will go up, right?

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2011, 03:48:16 PM »
On the home page of the website, it'll say "# here" and only "# here" unseeded. Is that reliable?
Why shouldn't it be reliable? Usually all torrents here are seeded pretty well(a lot of them are even overseeded)

That's a relief! I hope it doesn't get that low, ever. My ratio jumped from 0.014 to 0.031 overnight! Even if that's still low, it's still an improvement. The more I download (and allow to seed) the higher my ratio will go up, right?
Not exactly. Downloading none freeleech torrents will of course reduce your ratio at first, but you'll have more to seed. So your uploadspeed will probably increase and your ratio will go up faster.

btw why did you download "kuragehime" twice? You know that's not a good idea if you want your ratio to increase

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2011, 04:12:55 PM »
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Why shouldn't it be reliable? Usually all torrents here are seeded pretty well(a lot of them are even overseeded)
I didn't know @_@ 'Cause sometimes, well, a lot of times, websites will lag. I'm new to all of this... Like every single thing. I'm at the extent of my computer skills :P

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Not exactly. Downloading none freeleech torrents will of course reduce your ratio at first, but you'll have more to seed. So your uploadspeed will probably increase and your ratio will go up faster.

I'm probably just going to try to find some freeleech torrents so I can "practice" a bit. Of course, it's going to be something I'll watch (and something I'll want to watch) and then I'll switch over to downloading non-freeleech.

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btw why did you download "kuragehime" twice? You know that's not a good idea if you want your ratio to increase
I don't think it downloaded twice... I think when I hit "force start" it just made it to where it only seeded. My ratio dropped from 0.018 to 0.014 when I closed out of the Torrent last night, but miraciously it was at (and still is) 0.031

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 01:42:42 AM »
On the home page of the website, it'll say "# here" and only "# here" unseeded. Is that reliable?

As the main tracker website (the main site) is linked directly to the tracker, you can trust all the numbers it shows. All the numbers are updated every 15 min or so. As for unseeded, torrents don't suddenly become unseeded - a torrent becomes unseeded when all the seeders disconnect at the same time. Just try to convince me that that happens all the time.

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2011, 03:18:45 AM »
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As the main tracker website (the main site) is linked directly to the tracker, you can trust all the numbers it shows. All the numbers are updated every 15 min or so. As for unseeded, torrents don't suddenly become unseeded - a torrent becomes unseeded when all the seeders disconnect at the same time. Just try to convince me that that happens all the time.


Sorry! >.< lol
I'm new to this. I still don't even really understand the whole seeding thing.
I'll try to do more research this weekend... It'd be awesome if I could get a ratio that's like, 1.000 xD
Anyway, when I pull up Torrent, it says "Do you want to download the trackers?" should I hit yes or no? I've been hitting no...

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2011, 03:38:17 AM »
Ratio of 1.000 just means you've seeded exactly as much as you've downloaded. That's because ratio = up/down.

What the heck is the client you're using? I've never heard of that message before. It doesn't even make sense...

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2011, 03:41:13 AM »
Looking at one of tigresssgold active torrents (currently downloading- Shuga Chara 8.57GB, gonna rape your current ratio, btw) it appears the client being use is "uTorrent/2200" and I have never heard of that message either. Strange indeed.

Also, as someone mentioned earlier, they system is showing that you DLd Kuragehime | Princess Jellyfish [umee] twice. Did you perhaps attempt to re-add the torrent after you initially downloaded it after moving the files from the spot they were DLd to in the first place? Your torrent client wont know that you already had it if you don't show it where to look.
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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2011, 11:41:41 AM »
the dialog that opens up whether or not to add the trackers to an existing torrent appears when someone tries to open a torrent that is already opened in the torrent client.
as i wrote you in my pms (perhaps you should reread them, because i'm a bit uncertain why i wrote them in the first place if you ask all the questions again and again...) you only need to add a torrent to your torrent client once. as long as you do not remove the torrent  from your client yourself, it will still be there every time you restart the client.

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2011, 10:13:33 PM »
the dialog that opens up whether or not to add the trackers to an existing torrent appears when someone tries to open a torrent that is already opened in the torrent client.
as i wrote you in my pms (perhaps you should reread them, because i'm a bit uncertain why i wrote them in the first place if you ask all the questions again and again...) you only need to add a torrent to your torrent client once. as long as you do not remove the torrent  from your client yourself, it will still be there every time you restart the client.

MMkay, that's what I've been doing.
And as for re-reading your messages, the past ones were deleted (I wasn't aware of the "delete message" option), and if you read my messages then you would see (even in the posts on this topic) that I'm still not sure what I'm doing, I just know I'm doing it. You can teach a toddler how to read, but don't expect them to start reciting Shakespeare.
Thank you, though, for all the help. I do appreciate it.

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Looking at one of tigresssgold active torrents (currently downloading- Shuga Chara 8.57GB, gonna rape your current ratio, btw) it appears the client being use is "uTorrent/2200" and I have never heard of that message either. Strange indeed.

Also, as someone mentioned earlier, they system is showing that you DLd Kuragehime | Princess Jellyfish [umee] twice. Did you perhaps attempt to re-add the torrent after you initially downloaded it after moving the files from the spot they were DLd to in the first place? Your torrent client wont know that you already had it if you don't show it where to look.


I think I might've downloaded it twice, but the second time was by accident. I tried to re-open it so it could seed (I closed out of it right after it had finished downloading) and I hit "force start". Is there a way that I can remove it, or should I just leave the way it is? (oh, and I am using uTorrent  ::) )
It said that my ratio after downloading would go to 0.029 (or something like that) which is slashing like, half of it off T~T
Hopefully after it's seeded it will rise again.

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2011, 02:11:51 AM »
Unless you have a lighting fast connection, like some fortunate ones do, seeding is a matter of patience.

Cap your download speed, don't download faster you could -potientally- seed. Keep seeding any torrent with a S/L ratio lower than 10 as long as you can. There's no need to be in a hurry, you won't be watching your downloads faster than you got them, will you ?
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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2011, 03:14:23 AM »
Unless you have a lighting fast connection, like some fortunate ones do, seeding is a matter of patience.

Cap your download speed, don't download faster you could -potientally- seed. Keep seeding any torrent with a S/L ratio lower than 10 as long as you can. There's no need to be in a hurry, you won't be watching your downloads faster than you got them, will you ?


LOL, yeah, I've learned how to be patient.
I start downloading the [[big]] series at night (like right now, Shugo Chara with 52 episodes. I've been downloading since like, 5 PM and it's 10 now).
That way, it goes throughout the entire night and all during the school day, so when I get home it's finished :D
I'm glad that I get the oppturnity to watch anime like this! ;)
And, I learned the hard way that you have to keep the Torrent/whatever up, even after it's finished downloading, so it can seed >.<"
Hopefully after a few more times I'll get the hang of it.
Thanks for your help too!

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2011, 04:14:41 AM »
Oh wow, 5 hours. That really puts me to shame. I've only had some of my torrents up and active for a year and a half. With a ratio on those of around 2-3.

By the way, I don't think there is much benefit to force seeding. I've never seen any changes in my torrent activity with force switched on or off. Perhaps it raises the torrent's priority, but there's no way for the torrent to seed more than it already is if there is no one to seed to.

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Re: Am I seeding correctly?
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2011, 07:56:07 AM »
Oh wow, 5 hours. That really puts me to shame. I've only had some of my torrents up and active for a year and a half. With a ratio on those of around 2-3.

By the way, I don't think there is much benefit to force seeding. I've never seen any changes in my torrent activity with force switched on or off. Perhaps it raises the torrent's priority, but there's no way for the torrent to seed more than it already is if there is no one to seed to.

xD Well, it's 3 AM and they're finished. I'm exaughsted, I've been studying for a Biology, French, and English test today :/
I have to get up in 2 1/2 hours >.<"

Anyway, the force start really didn't have any benefits, except that it made me download it twice (oops).
I wasn't really trying to make it seed faster, rather I was trying to actually make it seed (I had no idea it was seeding... lol, trust me, I'm starting to get the hang of this website!)