Author Topic: Monster (2004) - Haven't seen it, or want to watch it again! (Read 1909 times)

ginko465 · « **on:** January 30, 2011, 03:32:51 PM »

Just wanted to say how awesome this series and then luckily there are a few groups working on this. Figmentos is already releasing episodes. And I know of another group doing the same thing, using R2J DVDs with fansubs.

Check anidb for releases and group information.

Thanks!

street carp · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2011, 03:46:58 PM »

Monster is available on BakaBT so I think it's ok to talk about

AceD · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2011, 04:17:33 PM »

I have no idea what's going on here

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BrownMasterV · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2011, 04:30:30 PM »

Even if it is licensed and not available on BBT, you can still discuss it...

Dian · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2011, 04:57:52 PM »

I started watching a month ago, i'm on episode 40. The show to gets real intense after episode 24.

Fool010 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2011, 05:02:40 PM »

Quote from: ginko465 on January 30, 2011, 03:32:51 PM

Oh crap, forgot about license anime, nevermind. Delete me.

An address please, and I'll send someone

Now, about the series ... I felt it was a bit too long for it's own good. The pace is bogged down in the sense it takes a bit too much time setting up the atmosphere, forgetting to move the story forward in the meantime. There are also a couple of lapses in coherence here and there.

Good stuff nonetheless, could've be great with a bit of spit and polish. Definitely more insightful and mature thoughts about the nature of good and evil and responsability than Death Note.

ginko465 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2011, 11:25:35 PM »

Was going to add that Figmentos had decided to release R2 DVD rips of Monster using Soldats subtitles. And then was going to add MU links to our releases so far for those who haven't seen it or those who want to watch it again. But with better visuals and definitely better audio.

If it's alright, I'll edit the first post with information and links.

Chef · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2011, 01:58:20 AM »

Monster to me feels like an anime that was initially thought of by someone with a complete story in mind, and then sold under the philosophy 'we'll keep writing as long as people keep buying.' Thus you get an anime that could have easily fit into 26 episodes that instead makes its pace unbearably slow and tedious. It takes 74 episodes to come to a conclusion about something they brought up in episode 1... Not my ideal story telling philosophy.

cstle · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2011, 03:34:12 AM »

Quote from: ginko465 on January 30, 2011, 11:25:35 PM

Was going to add that Figmentos had decided to release R2 DVD rips of Monster using Soldats subtitles. And then was going to add MU links to our releases so far for those who haven't seen it or those who want to watch it again. But with better visuals and definitely better audio.

If it's alright, I'll edit the first post with information and links.

Since it's on the tracker here, I'm guessing it's alright.

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ginko465 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2011, 05:22:51 AM »

I posted links to R2 DVD rips with Soldats subtitles. If BakaBT allows, I'll continue to update with more episodes. If not, then I'll remove then, I understand if BakaBT does not want this.

Thanks

sdedalus83 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2011, 06:04:04 AM »

Quote from: ginko465 on January 31, 2011, 05:22:51 AM

I posted links to R2 DVD rips with Soldats subtitles. If BakaBT allows, I'll continue to update with more episodes. If not, then I'll remove then, I understand if BakaBT does not want this.

Thanks

You should probably just say PM for links rather than posting the links directly.

southerndoom · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2011, 05:20:12 PM »

Currently watching Monster now on episode 10 and its very good so far.
I like the fact that its a serious show without the anime tropes that sometimes
annoy me.

Neco · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2011, 06:22:37 PM »

I've been wanting to see this series for a while.. I think my Mother would also like it, since she liked Death Note (Yes I know they are not "similar" but they could both be considered Dark/Mature).

I saw a R1 set in a store a while back and contemplated picking it up, as I am one of those evil Dub watchers.. But I can't remember if the entire series is/was released in R1 or not, and without heavy censorship. I do remember reading something about that somewhere, I think.

duskfairy · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2011, 09:50:21 PM »

loved Monster when I saw it some years ago, but will re-watch it soon and see what i think of it now

*sight* at all the censorships

mgz · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2011, 12:26:34 AM »

Quote from: Neco on January 31, 2011, 06:22:37 PM

I've been wanting to see this series for a while.. I think my Mother would also like it, since she liked Death Note (Yes I know they are not "similar" but they could both be considered Dark/Mature).

I saw a R1 set in a store a while back and contemplated picking it up, as I am one of those evil Dub watchers.. But I can't remember if the entire series is/was released in R1 or not, and without heavy censorship. I do remember reading something about that somewhere, I think.

SHUNNNNNNNN SHUN THE NON BELIEVER

on topic,

i tried really fucking hard to watch this show because there was so much positive feedback on it.

I couldnt watch more then like 30 episodes before just saying JESUS FUCK ITS THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER DO SOMETHING MOTHER FUCKER.

froody1911 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2011, 08:38:20 AM »

Quote from: mgz on February 01, 2011, 12:26:34 AM

SHUNNNNNNNN SHUN THE NON BELIEVER

lulz

I read the manga first, which is probably my favorite seinen manga. But after reading it, I didn't feel like watching the anime. I just felt like the "magic" would be lost. I don't think I ever will.

Fool010 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2011, 09:40:11 PM »

Quote from: froody1911 on February 01, 2011, 08:38:20 AM

I read the manga first, which is probably my favorite seinen manga. But after reading it, I didn't feel like watching the anime. I just felt like the "magic" would be lost. I don't think I ever will.

I haven't read the manga (I'm not that into manga), I just felt the pacing of the series was terrible. I don't mind when it goes down to a walking pace and takes it's time to set and state things clearly, but -beyond a certain point- Monster comes to a crawl for far too long without adding anything significant.

At some point the general mood is set, the characters are pretty well defined and the outlines of the general narrative become quite clear, and yet the story keeps moving way too slowly. I know it's supposed to enhance both atmosphere and psychological aspect, but it mainly kills the storytelling, which is quite a shame because the story's good.

ginko465 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2011, 07:58:16 AM »

Quote from: Neco on January 31, 2011, 06:22:37 PM

I've been wanting to see this series for a while.. I think my Mother would also like it, since she liked Death Note (Yes I know they are not "similar" but they could both be considered Dark/Mature).

I saw a R1 set in a store a while back and contemplated picking it up, as I am one of those evil Dub watchers.. But I can't remember if the entire series is/was released in R1 or not, and without heavy censorship. I do remember reading something about that somewhere, I think.

R1 release is only up to episode 15. The company that licensed Monster for R1 distribution dropped the series, cancelled. That is the reason why R2 DVDs with Subtitles is the only alternative to the DTV rips now.

Monster is not like other anime. As you can see, there are a lot of posts here from viewers who are not accustomed or patient enough for this series. Monster goes into much greater depth than any horror/mystery anime I've ever seen. The entire 74 episodes is about one main plot. It's not a series with numerous story arcs, it's just one massive disturbing story that unravels in great detail over 74 episdoes.

First off I don't think Death Note is similar to Monster. Death Note is just about a bunch of arrogant, pretentions twats who think they are either clever or devious when in reality, they are all morons. It's a show for kids and worked fine. Monster I feel is a more mature anime. It doesn't impose it's own view on you. The anime allows you to come to your own opinion, your own conclusion. It's a not a constant drivel of opinions from a pretentious mangaka like Death Note was. As you can see, I was not a fan of Death Note, but Monster is among my favorite.

I do like silly and nonsensical anime. Like Gintama, Ping Pong Club, GTO etc... But when anime like this try to discuss some serious issues, then yes, I'm a bit more critical.

Anyways, if you are patient, and want an anime that explores and goes into great depth, then this is it. If you just want constant action, multiple story arcs etc, then pass on Monster.

Chef · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2011, 02:43:46 PM »

Monster's problem wasn't JUST that it was long, tedious, and redundant and should have been done in much fewer episodes. From a literary critic's perspective it was nothing too special either. I'd appreciate if you describe the moral qualms and choices it forced the viewer to make, values it forced the viewer to question, etc. I don't recall any. Half the episodes exist for the sole purpose of making Tenma look good, which equates more to a vain fantasy than legitimate character development to me.

DmonHiro · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2011, 07:04:33 PM »

I didn't like it. Pace was waaaaay to slow, and this is from someone who liked Aria and Umi Monogatari. I also didn't feel anything for the characters. For the life of me, I couldn't identify with Tenma, since, IMO, it was his own stupidity/naivety that cost him his job, his life (not the actual life), and let loose a monster on the world.

What I'm saying is, I would have operated on the politician, and I would have lived happily ever after. Also, lots of people wouldn't have suffered.