Tiffany's Murdergame - Round Five: Vampires, Rapists, Revivals, oh my.

[SeventyX7]

It may be unlikely, but still better to kill him with no chance of failure than risk it.  And the more important issue here is that the innocents gain nothing from this lynch, and if he WERE lying, it would be a suicidal lie to tell.  All it takes is one night for the Adjunct to get the report to the Inquisitor, then another for the Inquisitor to do the boxing, unless he decides to just sit around not killing for a few days.  Admittedly he was in a desperate situation, but still, you're advocating taking a huge risk (taking a very important protector role out of the game) for next to no benefit.

You don't understand, his admitting he is the tertiary is clearly a lie.  He would never admit it.  It just doesn't have that good of a defense.  It's more suicidal for the actual tertiary to say it than one of the killers.  That's why my money is on him being evil.

In other words, he's LESS likely to be the tertiary than anyone else.

It's a risk not to box his ass'.

[Teaparty]

Oh I do hope you don't lynch the Tertiary. xD

[scotsman]

By the way, scotsman, still too lazy?

I fell asleep about 12hrs ago actually so yes, still to lazy.

Can I just point out what happened last time when someone claimed to be the vigilante, nearly got lynched 2 or 3 times and ended up being the demon (think it was the demon).

[TightMuffin]

It may be unlikely, but still better to kill him with no chance of failure than risk it.  And the more important issue here is that the innocents gain nothing from this lynch, and if he WERE lying, it would be a suicidal lie to tell.  All it takes is one night for the Adjunct to get the report to the Inquisitor, then another for the Inquisitor to do the boxing, unless he decides to just sit around not killing for a few days.  Admittedly he was in a desperate situation, but still, you're advocating taking a huge risk (taking a very important protector role out of the game) for next to no benefit.

You don't understand, his admitting he is the tertiary is clearly a lie.  He would never admit it.  It just doesn't have that good of a defense.  It's more suicidal for the actual tertiary to say it than one of the killers.  That's why my money is on him being evil.

In other words, he's LESS likely to be the tertiary than anyone else.

It's a risk not to box his ass'.

Why is it a risk?  If he's lying, the real Adjunct will get him boxed anyway.

[Teaparty]

It may be unlikely, but still better to kill him with no chance of failure than risk it.  And the more important issue here is that the innocents gain nothing from this lynch, and if he WERE lying, it would be a suicidal lie to tell.  All it takes is one night for the Adjunct to get the report to the Inquisitor, then another for the Inquisitor to do the boxing, unless he decides to just sit around not killing for a few days.  Admittedly he was in a desperate situation, but still, you're advocating taking a huge risk (taking a very important protector role out of the game) for next to no benefit.

You don't understand, his admitting he is the tertiary is clearly a lie.  He would never admit it.  It just doesn't have that good of a defense.  It's more suicidal for the actual tertiary to say it than one of the killers.  That's why my money is on him being evil.

In other words, he's LESS likely to be the tertiary than anyone else.

It's a risk not to box his ass'.

Why is it a risk?  If he's lying, the real Adjunct will get him boxed anyway.

Good point. I forgot that the Tertiary can also monitor a person each day. Since shabutie hasn't yet been announced as a killer yet, there's a high chance he's the Tertiary.. or the demon I suppose. Since he hasn't yet acted since shabutie proclaimed to be the Tertiary. (I.... think?)
That makes me the only person to box this round. xD

[Tiffanys]

Here are the votes so far, 5 hours left:
SeventyX7: 1 (Arc Da Rat)
vuzedome: 2 (flyawave, TightMuffin)
shabutie: 3 (SeventyX7, suhaib, vuzedome)
Teaparty: 5 (shabutie, Klocknov, harpy, tomoya-kun, saidin1015)

As Tiffany mentioned, "no action" is not a plausible move anymore.

I only eliminated "no action" as a cause for spiritual pressure dropping. That's the only one of those that can't cause that, but any of the other options could have caused it. The only thing that could cause spiritual pressure dropping is being interrogated, boxed/killed, or getting feedback from attacking the Succubus.

A killer can skip a turn every other day. Assuming the demon got feedback, and then it skipped its turn and then it got called in for questioning, and then it skipped its turn again, it's plausible they could lose 4 turns in a row. If any of those are untrue, then one day would have to be subtracted. But, if people aren't paying attention it'd look pretty damn well like there's only the Serial Killer left.

Of course, it'd be a real PITA thing to do if that were the case since it just extends the game for some weird as hell strategy, where just killing people and ending the game faster would be much more effective. 1 kill per night or 2. Do the math. One of those ends the game twice as fast as the other. Heck, if 3-4 more people were dead right now, that's a pretty big chunk of the active voters. Hell, if I was the demon I'd just take out anyone intelligent enough to make a bit of a difference and just leave the stupid bandwagoners to manipulate into voting out the Protectors.

Anywho, with all that said... the Serial Killer could use that weird strategy too, except their maximum is 3 day instead of 4. They'd have to skip, get questioned, and skip. But, that'd be stupid since it'd pretty much prove their guilt beyond a doubt to anyone with half a brain paying attention to the game. Though, I guess it might buy them a couple days if they don't expect to last long anyways since people might assume the role is already dead or boxed.

. . .everyone stupid for not reading the news. . . Sort of like how some people don't read the tickers at the bottom, they include hints sometimes as well people!! It is just aggravating how so many people just seem to only skim the news when it holds the biggest hints for everybody that is voting. Start with the news then look at the players, that is always your best choice for finding out who the killers are.

This is 100% true and I've had some pretty massive clues in the news lately just cause I honestly can't help but be totally dumbfounded and feel obligated to help you guys out.

I can't help but facepalm at how utterly true everything I left in that quote is.

[Teaparty]

Excuse us for being idiots then. xD It's only my first time playing this game (or any variation of it).
I thought it'd be interesting to get boxed, but apparently a couple people don't like that idea. I don't want to ruin a fantastic game, so here I am proclaiming to be the Grand Inquisitor. If you believe me, change your vote. If not, well... We'll know who's going to get boxed next day. I'll be having a tea party with Kenpachi down at seki seki and none of you will be invited. Ever.

[TightMuffin]

Everyone should just follow me.  I'm obviously the most intelligent and good-looking person here.

[Teaparty]

^ I love your avatar.

Just re-read Day 4. LOL. Poor demon...

Edit: LOL. Poor Grand Inquisitor.

[vuzedome]

Okay then, Teaparty it is. My vote goes to Tea party.

And what do you mean by poor demon?  
We'll take care of the demon later anyway.
Since the demon can't go running around and amassing supporters like the succubus.

[Teaparty]

How much you have lied... I never knew! D: I thought we were friends!! You had me fooled there vuze... I'll come back for you.
Though, how did you find out my identity?

[vuzedome]

It was simple really.
I never accused anyone.
Well maybe I had once or twice but I'd just change my vote when everything is clearer.

Or.....
Oh you~! 
I'm swapping my vote back to Shabutie.

[SeventyX7]

We wouldn't know who the tertiary protected.  Tertiary is NOT the inquisitor, tertiary is the rez'ing person who PROTECTS people covertly.

[TightMuffin]

Tertiary can also investigate people to be reported to the Inquisitor, though.

[Meomix]

*Takes a magnifying glass and starts scouring the news*

Day 3 Scene 9:

S̱̳ĥ̦̦͈̰̉̀͐͌ͥ̚i̧͙̙̺̖͙͇̊͒ķ͆ͭ͑ͪ̓̋a̫̗̦̖͈̞̿̉ͮ̔̍̚b̴̼͚a̬̓n̳̥͖͙̺͈̾̃ͥe̥̤̦̾̉ͯ̏̽͂ͨ ̳̙̘ͯ̄ͨ̽ͨ̑ͅH̗̣̫͖̠̟ͧͦ͊͛̂͆ỉ̢͕̄̐m̵͎͈̉̊̿̿e̢̲͍̯̻̤̎͛̓̍:͍̪͉̣̦̽͐͑͋ͩͩ̚ ̮̈͋́͜T̨̖͚̗̜̜̄͋h̤ͫe͈̩̠͓̖͙̠ ̪̫̫̬͎̥H̥̼͔̰a̵̘̱̠̳k̿̋̒̽u͚̹͎̥ͩ́ͦ̒ͦ͒̕f̖̯̙̹̠̙͌͗͟u̹̳͘ ͙͇S͉̯͖͙͉̼̭̍o̷̤̪̲̖̦ͧn̫̩̳̽̕s̵̙̞͒͋ͣ̐͛ͮ̓a̴͙̮̰k̹̥̳̜̫͒ű͎̟̣͎̹̖͒ͭ̽͗͌ͨ ͈ͣͨ̽̑̅̓̎͝ḯ̓s̥͙̭̩̭̖̫̏̌͜ ͙́͐ͬ̃̽̈̏ȁ̹ͮ̔̂̑ͯ̃v̗͊ͦ̓̉̋̆àͨi̶͙͈̱ͭ̍ḽ̟͒ͪa̫̮͔ͭͮ͛͛͠bͮͪͦ̒̍l̴̺̠̱̽̇͋ͦê̷̟̗͚̇ͬ̒̐ͬ̇ ̧͉̤̰̱̫̲͙fͥ͛̎̍ͧo͈̯̗͐ͫ̄͆̒̂rͣ̍ͥͪͣ̐҉̘͖̯ ́́ͭ̒̀y̗̾̇̊ȏ̳ͮ̇̃͗̓͜ū̦̋̒͋̍ͮr̙̯͖̋ͅ ̗̔̽̍u͇̫͖ͪ͊̒ͤͅͅs̶̖̠͎̪͑ͯ̊e̢͙͊͋̔̍ ̿n̞͖̲̬̰̤ͥ͆͛ͭͫ͐ö̫̜́̄ͣͧ̃̅w̄̏̀,̔̑ͭ ̱ͨ͋̏̓̓̌Ÿ̏̓̈́ǒ̟̞̪͎̬̙̬ͭ̔̿ur̙͑̈́́̆ͮ̐ ̫̳̤̳̃̎ͧ̇̇̈ͅM̸̮a͑ͨͭ̄͞j͖̘͙̲͚̣̮ͥ̾̈͒͠e̵̜̳̭ͪ̒́͐͛͗̑s̢͑ͩͯ̽̒̿ţ͉͕̬ͭͭͥ̊̈́͆y̸̹͋ͨ͑͛.͊̕

Day 4 Scene 4:

Tertiary Adjunct: I͟t͞ ̸̧i͟͜͡s̷͡ ̛K̵̕a͠ļ̧i̛͘͟ ̵͘ẁ͢h̴o̶̧͘ w̡i͘͟l͘͠ĺ̴͢ ̨́dev͏o҉u̷̵r͟ ̷͡a̢l͏l̀̕.͞ ̀́Z̸a̷͝͠ŗ͠a̛k͝i̕,҉́ ͢͡if̸̨ yơu͏͏ d͟͝oǹ̨̢'̶́t ̢̧͘s͡to̸͞p͘͏͞ I̵̕͢'̵l͜l̛͞ ҉̨͝ŕi͏͡p ͟y͜o͡ur͠ ̛f͟ú͝͠c̀͝k͠i͟n̷g h̨e̷͡a̢̕d̴̕ ́͝͝o̷̢̕f̵̶f̶.̶͡
Kanpachi: Ah well, when you say it that way... there's no point to this anyways. I'm surprised you actually showed your true form... I'm actually being crushed by your spiritual pressure. I'll admit, that's impressive... I guess they can only hold back so much even with the restrictions. Though I have to say, I am a bit disappointed. It would have been fun to have a fight with someone as powerful as you.
Tertiary Adjunct: Tḩ̧é̛ŗ͘͠e ̨w̶o̵҉̢uld͞͠͡ ͘͢be͞ ̶҉n̸̕͝o ̀f̴͏i͏g̢̛͘h̵͜͟t.̷̷̨ ̴̢̡Y͞où w̛̕o̷̶͢ú͢ĺ̷̢d̶ ͝ḑ̴͜ié͏,͡ ̷͞҉á͟s̶̴̨ ́͝th̡os͟e͠ t̴͢ha̧t́͢ ̴̸͝h̵͠a̶v̵e̴ c͞o͞m̴e̛͢ ͘͘͝b̧ef̢o͡ŗ̵͜e̶ ͘h̕̕͜a͜ve ̶͟d͏̢͢i̸͜é̷d.̵ ̛Ḱ̛ál̛͡i ̴҉̀de̡͡͡vo͢u̷̧͜r̸s ̢͞͡a̧l̡l͘͢, ̢̕t̛͠h͟e̸̶r͟e̴̛͜ ̸̧is̴͜ ̡͏͘n̡̛o͜ ̡͏t̴̀r̨a̵̢͞ç̡͠e of̢̛͘ ̶̷͠m̕e͏̕r̛҉̵c̡̕͜y.͘͠
Kenpachi: Heh... I guess you're right. I don't even know why you're talking to me. Just put up the damn barrier already. You know I can't get through it.
Tertiary Adjunct: V͏e̵̢̢r̷y͜ ̸̨̕w̨él͟l͢͡.̢͟ ́S̶͢l̡eep̶̡ ̷͡w̷̨i̵͞t̸͞hį̶͝n͏́͏ ͞t҉͜͞h͘e҉ ͟͝d҉ąrk̨ņ͏̸e͠s̀s o͜f̷͝ ͞e̵͟t̶͜é͏r̷̛n̕͢͡i͡t̀͠y̴̛.̀̕ ̸̨Ý͘o͟u ͏͝͡w̢͏h̕ǫ ̴i͜͢s̡ ͜͝ć̢͢ŕo͟w̴̶nę̴͢d̨͟ ̨͟w̷i҉̵͝t̛͘h́͘ ҉̶th͜ȩ ͡n͟a̷̛͠me̵͜ ̴͢o͘f̛ ͢M̸a͏҉n͏̨͘, ͠͝ẃ͟e̡a҉́r̸̕i̡̛ń͝g̴ ͘a̴̡͘ M̷̛a̧̛ś̢͟k ̀҉òf̵ ͞b̨l̷̸o̵o̸d͢͢͜ ̵҉̕a̴̴nd̴ ̨fļ͘e҉̶sh̷͝, ̨͘f̴̕ĺ̶ỳ͏͏i̵͜n͠g ̴o͘ņ̡͠ ̧̡t̛͏͞en̢̡ ̀͘t͘͜h͡͏͏ó͝us͞a̸ń́͡d f̀͢͢l̨̡̧ù̕t̸t̀e̶r҉͢i̕n̸͏̀g̡ ̛͢w̕͜i͟͏ngş͡,͢ ̢w͏͏͏ìt̢̨ḩ͘ ͏Ţ̀h̨͘͜uń͜ḑ͟͝e̷̛̛r̴̵͘’̧͢s͝ ̛̕c̵a̢͢r̵͠r̢̕͏i̛͟a̡g̵̵̶e̢͝ ͜͠a̶͏n҉͟d͝ ́a̡͡n͞ ͟͞em͠p̶t̀͜ỳ ̨͝S̨p͘͡i̷n̢n̴̶i͠n̢͢g ̢̀Ẁ͟h҉͠e̕͡e̷̛l҉,͜ ̀b̡r̢͠͝ea̧͡k͠ ̴̡͜t͏̵h̵̷e ̴L̸̢͠i̵g͢h̀͜t̴͜ ̨͟͟i҉̧n͝t̶҉ò͜ ̨͝s̡͟í̢͘x͡ p̢i҉͟e̕͢͝c͘e̷s, ͜c͘a̴͢r̴v̶̛e̕҉ ̢a͞͏ ́͝ţwi͏͠n ̷͝͠L̵͡o̸t̶u͠s͠ o͜͏n̶ ̀a͜ w̢҉́a̶͝l͜͝l̷ ̡͜of̨̕͢ ̸̧̢Pà̵l̀é̸ ͘͜B̷̧͏l̕u̵e Fl̀̕ąm͡e̴s̷, ̴̀á͏n̶͝d ̀͜͞a҉w̵à͠҉į̷t̨͡ ͘t̵̶͟h͘e̶͠ B͡l͘͏á̕͢z͟i҉͜҉n̶̵g͞͡ ̵F͘i̡̨r͞e̢͘s ͏͡͝to̡̕ r̡͜é́͏ac̸͞h t̀h̢͜e̛̕̕ D̵̛͘ì̶s͘͜tą̛nt̴̴͡ ̢͝Hȩ́à̷͢v̨́͢e͘ǹ̡͡s̡̨͘!҉͏̶ ̶͠B̸̕a̕͢k͡u̶҉ḑ̀҉o͢͏̀u̴̕ ͟#̢́6̡̨1͏,̸͟ R̡͏i̸҉ḱù͘͜jó̴̀kơ͘͡r͟͢o̶!͏

Day 4 Scene 6:

Tertiary Adjunct: Once upon a time, there was this little sparrow. Who, while flying south for the winter, froze solid. And fell to the ground. And then to make matters worse, a cow crapped on him. But the manure was all warm and it defrosted him. So there he is, he's warm and he's happy to be alive and he starts to sing. A hungry cat comes along and he clears off the manure and he looks at the little bird, and then he eats him.
Tertiary Adjunct: And the moral of the story is this: Everyone who craps on you is not necessarily your enemy. And everyone who gets you out of crap is not necessarily your friend. And if you're warm and happy no matter where you are.... then you should just keep your big mouth shut.

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I must be blind, the only thing i caught was a piece of straw stuck to that stupid Soifon's head, detailed reports from Soifon that is supposed to prevent the retarded voting tactics that i see here and and some text that was beyond normal.

[SeventyX7]

Tertiary can also investigate people to be reported to the Inquisitor, though.

Oh, you're right, my bad.  I was just reading the numbered rules, and it's not mentioned int here.

[TightMuffin]

Yeah, that's why I was saying it was completely stupid to lynch the Adjunct claim, because the real one will just out them like that if they are not legitimate.

[SeventyX7]

Yeah, that's why I was saying it was completely stupid to lynch the Adjunct claim, because the real one will just out them like that if they are not legitimate.

to better illustrate my argument;

HEY GUYS!  I'M THE TERTIARY ADJUNCT!  That Shabutie is a faker.

You guys shouldn't vote for me because...

Yeah, that's why I was saying it was completely stupid to lynch the Adjunct claim, because the real one will just out them like that if they are not legitimate.

 

[TightMuffin]

Yeah, that's why I was saying it was completely stupid to lynch the Adjunct claim, because the real one will just out them like that if they are not legitimate.

to better illustrate my argument;

HEY GUYS!  I'M THE TERTIARY ADJUNCT!  That Shabutie is a faker.

You guys shouldn't vote for me because...

Yeah, that's why I was saying it was completely stupid to lynch the Adjunct claim, because the real one will just out them like that if they are not legitimate.

 

Except we only have one serious claim.  With a competent Adjunct and Inquisitor, assuming they take action every day, they will die within two days.  Since they can only avoid action every other day, it's four at the most.  Why take the risk when they are guaranteed dead if they're lying anyway?  I'm not saying we have to 100% trust that claim, but it's a stupid risk.  Can you actually offer some justification for it besides "well he might be lying"?

[SeventyX7]

Yeah, that's why I was saying it was completely stupid to lynch the Adjunct claim, because the real one will just out them like that if they are not legitimate.

to better illustrate my argument;

HEY GUYS!  I'M THE TERTIARY ADJUNCT!  That Shabutie is a faker.

You guys shouldn't vote for me because...

Yeah, that's why I was saying it was completely stupid to lynch the Adjunct claim, because the real one will just out them like that if they are not legitimate.

 

Except we only have one serious claim.  With a competent Adjunct and Inquisitor, assuming they take action every day, they will die within two days.  Since they can only avoid action every other day, it's four at the most.  Why take the risk when they are guaranteed dead if they're lying anyway?  I'm not saying we have to 100% trust that claim, but it's a stupid risk.  Can you actually offer some justification for it besides "well he might be lying"?

I'm done with this, you're the only person who doesn't seem to understand my reasoning on this.  I'll just leave it to everyone else to decide, and you can reread my posts if you want to understand.