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Hana-Saku Iroha [Series] | How to Bloom a Flower [Series]
Tatsujin:
Start using spoilers, I'm reading a lot of things that can be used in spoilers.
Havoc10K:
Tatsu, no need for spoilers, really, what is this based upon ? original work, right ?
we can discuss our opinions about that and what we want freely,
and I'm with kamineko as well, i don't want any romance around Ohana too soon, if any should be, it hsould be when things around her allow for it, first of all, we get to know some new characters and we want development, we know a bit about everyone so far, nothing much, we don't know if Ko is suited for Ohana at all, what if Ko only wants her for himself, and now he plans on this voyage only to make sure she doesn't hook up with anyone more worthy of her ? if she finds someone who makes her feel comfortable around with and it's not Ko, i'll be fine with it, we also don't know anything about Ko yet, we only know he was aiming to be her boyfriend all the time, if that is correct he wasn't a good friend at all, and he might be the last person suited to be near her, if the creators of the anime have something planned for Ohana, I will wait patiently, cuz it's worth the wait.
kamineko:
--- Quote from: ajslayer on May 07, 2011, 07:04:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: kamineko on May 07, 2011, 02:01:40 PM ---Let me get this straight: You have a show with a female protagonist who might (or might not) get her romance much later in the show.
You take the first male which comes along, make him your personal hero / protagonist, toss away everything Iroha might do in terms of character development? :o
Wow, talk about biased... Maybe some generic harem show would be better suited for you.
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whats wrong with wanting a romantic development with the first male character that appears on the show? the viewer is already familiar with him and its evident he's a nice and caring guy. he had the balls to confess to her in the first damn episode. or maybe you wanna see her get with a guy thats an @sshole? besides it would take too much work to familiarize the viewer with some other random male love interest. and it would so against the general consensus. at the end of it all, there's no reason to be trolling, bro.
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Didn't want to troll - I should have left my last sentence out, sorry for being that harsh.
It's wrong precisely because this is a coming-of-age show (=character development) of a female lead.
Switch to a story with a male protagonist: Not Iroha, but Ahiro, for example. In a similar setup, I would expect the lead to learn that he was oblivious to everything, even to his long-time girlfriend being in love with him, as the starting point only. From there on, a lot of things could (and should) happen, including finding a true love somewhere along the road.
In this situation (you identify with the lead), you would be disappointed if the story development was restricted to the guy sticking to his kindergarten friend, despite him being in a completely new environment with lots of new encounters. It could happen, but then it would be a major part of the plot (less coming-of-age, more a story about long-time love prevailing).
Now back to Iroha. I think it's terribly wrong to identify with the first male guy just because she's so cute that we all want to have her. This is a story about Iroha, not about Ko.
kamineko:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on May 07, 2011, 08:54:38 PM ---and I'm with kamineko as well, i don't want any romance around Ohana too soon, if any should be, it hsould be when things around her allow for it, first of all, we get to know some new characters and we want development, we know a bit about everyone so far, nothing much, we don't know if Ko is suited for Ohana at all, what if Ko only wants her for himself, and now he plans on this voyage only to make sure she doesn't hook up with anyone more worthy of her ? if she finds someone who makes her feel comfortable around with and it's not Ko, i'll be fine with it, we also don't know anything about Ko yet, we only know he was aiming to be her boyfriend all the time, if that is correct he wasn't a good friend at all, and he might be the last person suited to be near her, if the creators of the anime have something planned for Ohana, I will wait patiently, cuz it's worth the wait.
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Thanks, Havoc10K.
That sums up what I think.
Soryon:
--- Quote from: kamineko on May 07, 2011, 09:50:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: ajslayer on May 07, 2011, 07:04:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: kamineko on May 07, 2011, 02:01:40 PM ---Let me get this straight: You have a show with a female protagonist who might (or might not) get her romance much later in the show.
You take the first male which comes along, make him your personal hero / protagonist, toss away everything Iroha might do in terms of character development? :o
Wow, talk about biased... Maybe some generic harem show would be better suited for you.
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whats wrong with wanting a romantic development with the first male character that appears on the show? the viewer is already familiar with him and its evident he's a nice and caring guy. he had the balls to confess to her in the first damn episode. or maybe you wanna see her get with a guy thats an @sshole? besides it would take too much work to familiarize the viewer with some other random male love interest. and it would so against the general consensus. at the end of it all, there's no reason to be trolling, bro.
--- End quote ---
Didn't want to troll - I should have left my last sentence out, sorry for being that harsh.
It's wrong precisely because this is a coming-of-age show (=character development) of a female lead.
Switch to a story with a male protagonist: Not Iroha, but Ahiro, for example. In a similar setup, I would expect the lead to learn that he was oblivious to everything, even to his long-time girlfriend being in love with him, as the starting point only. From there on, a lot of things could (and should) happen, including finding a true love somewhere along the road.
In this situation (you identify with the lead), you would be disappointed if the story development was restricted to the guy sticking to his kindergarten friend, despite him being in a completely new environment with lots of new encounters. It could happen, but then it would be a major part of the plot (less coming-of-age, more a story about long-time love prevailing).
Now back to Iroha. I think it's terribly wrong to identify with the first male guy just because she's so cute that we all want to have her. This is a story about Iroha, not about Ko.
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Nothing wrong with rooting for Ko. Here is my reasoning for it as it is right now-
He confesses in the first episode and she just blows it off, no real answer. Then as the episodes pass she stays in contact with him. I dont wanna say stringing him along, but never properly turning him down or accepting him. This is why I still root for Ko. Now, if there is another love interest later in the story, she needs to properly deal with the Ko situation before she moves on. I dont think Ko is the only possible partner she could have, but if another one comes up, I would like to see her deal with it properly. Now that aside, so far I have not seen any other guy who I particularly like so I am going to keep my hopes up that Ko gets his wish.
I kinda see it happening like this; as she helps with others interests, she begins to understand her own feelings and can come back to Ko later in the show more matured and able to deal with it properly.
At least that is the kind of vibe I am getting thus far.
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