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cptjanvier:
As to what I didn't like, look at the previous pages. Basically I find the story to be full of clichès and the characters walking stereotypes that I just can't relate to. And that buttgrab was total fanservice. Toradora was interesting, with sympathetic characters who elicited genuine feelings, even though the story was not very realistic.
On the whole, I don't care whether the main protagonist is a boy or a girl and while I do prefer seinen and josei anime, as long as the story is good, I will watch it and won't care if it's an anime for 5-year-olds, 15-year-olds or 50-year-olds (someone sub Shouwa Monogatari, already!). Furthermore, anime doesn't have to be realistic (although I'd love to see more of those) and I do accept the reality of fanservice - after all, there's fanservice for girls, too. Again, my problem with this anime is its lack of depth and originality. There.
But I really don't want to spoil your fun, so enjoy yourselves and stop replying to me already or newy will pinch me for trolling T.T
TMRNetShark:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on April 11, 2011, 12:04:35 PM ---sorry to interrupt, but anyone into anime is either a fanboy or a fangirl, you're not into girls in anime, there is a perfect show going atm, BL and it's disgusting to me (i'm a guy) so if you really want some boys, go there.
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SDF (Sony Defense Force) are a bunch of fanboys... we here... on this forum... are OTAKUS! :D
--- Quote from: cptjanvier on April 11, 2011, 01:58:48 PM ---As to what I didn't like, look at the previous pages. Basically I find the story to be full of clichès and the characters walking stereotypes that I just can't relate to. And that buttgrab was total fanservice. Toradora was interesting, with sympathetic characters who elicited genuine feelings, even though the story was not very realistic.
On the whole, I don't care whether the main protagonist is a boy or a girl and while I do prefer seinen and josei anime, as long as the story is good, I will watch it and won't care if it's an anime for 5-year-olds, 15-year-olds or 50-year-olds (someone sub Shouwa Monogatari, already!). Furthermore, anime doesn't have to be realistic (although I'd love to see more of those) and I do accept the reality of fanservice - after all, there's fanservice for girls, too. Again, my problem with this anime is its lack of depth and originality. There.
But I really don't want to spoil your fun, so enjoy yourselves and stop replying to me already or newy will pinch me for trolling T.T
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Does anyone else disagree with this or is it just me? I would like to know what specifics in the show (in the first two presentable episodes) that you saw lack of depth or originality. 70%-80% of anime is lack of depth and originality (which makes it more fan service), but that's what some of us like. What most of us ALSO like is anime that HAS depth and lots of originality to the plot (which this show has a lot of, right?). So I'm thinking that if you didn't like this show because of those two reasons (lack of depth and originality), then you really don't like most of the animes out there (of the realistic fiction kind).
EDIT: I read your reasons, and true, there are some cliches that other animes have done. Although, let me just say... most of the things you've presented as cliche in other animes have been done over the span of 12 or 26 episodes (I don't know of any 47 or 50 episode series with what you said). All of what you mention was in the first episode. There are 26 episodes in this series and your judging it for having all the cliches that most series have over the entire span of their episodes. Do you really think their gonna ride those themes throughout the entire series? Hell no (well I don't know), but if they do, maybe it won't be such a hot anime. As it looks right now though, it looks very promising.
Havoc10K:
I completely disagree, but that is because I think most anime since 2000 year are all pretty much the same, with just different point of view and slight plot changes, in short, any anime since year 2000 is pretty much the same, it's hard to create an anime that has not been made before, all genres has been made, these days anime studios and so on compete for audience, they create characters we want to like, each different, you pretty much in every anime get, one clumsy, one shy, one mature, and one weirdo, in every anime you get someone who is trying to make things harder for others, there is always a good guy or something, stuff like that, if you want new type of anime, develop it yourself, write a script, present it to some studio or director, i'll be willing to see what YOU can come up with.
@on topic
damn I love the pictures i can find about the main girl :)
Nikkoru:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on April 11, 2011, 02:31:34 PM ---I completely disagree, but that is because I think most anime since 2000 year are all pretty much the same, with just different point of view and slight plot changes, in short, any anime since year 2000 is pretty much the same, it's hard to create an anime that has not been made before, all genres has been made, these days anime studios and so on compete for audience, they create characters we want to like, each different, you pretty much in every anime get, one clumsy, one shy, one mature, and one weirdo, in every anime you get someone who is trying to make things harder for others, there is always a good guy or something, stuff like that, if you want new type of anime, develop it yourself, write a script, present it to some studio or director, i'll be willing to see what YOU can come up with.
@on topic
damn I love the pictures i can find about the main girl :)
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That's a problem for fiction in general, trying to find something written today that's original is like observing the movement of matter on a quantum molecular level.
I think I'll watch it all when its over, since I don't want to get into it too far and find myself pulling my hair in annoyance because they don't know what to do with it.
Havoc10K:
--- Quote ---observing the movement of matter on a quantum molecular level.
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i'd like that.
the last time I watched something fairly original in anime was Nanoha Strikers, while that was aired nothing in teh season was anything close to it, then you also have Hellsing, and a very few other shows that are interesting, but all genres taken, you can't actually complain something is terrible just because it lacks original story and depth of characters, currently anime reuses the cliches over and over, complaining about that only gets you scorn and flames, I'd like you to provide a title of anime in recent 4 years that was completely original, one that didn't use any cliche moment, rule, or whatnot, come on now cptjanvier, don't be shy, surprise me please.
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