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Havoc10K:
with less fail.

for some reason this face doesn't fit and yet it feels so nice :D

Nikran:

--- Quote from: Havoc10K on June 01, 2011, 06:03:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: Nikran on May 31, 2011, 11:59:43 PM ---Episode 9 has proved it. The main character is THE BIGGEST FUCKING IDIOT IN ANIME HISTORY.

(click to show/hide)It's like that old saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." The essence of the saying being that if you don't learn from your mistakes your the one who is at fault. This fucking galaticly stupid fuck up has had plenty of demonstrations of the consequences of time travel. And yet he allowed that girl to send a message to the past. 10 years into the past. And he allowed her to make a change to the past without finding out what she was changing?!?!?! He's lucky he's the only one who remembers the present the way it used to be, otherwise he'd get brutally murdererd by a mob of fucked off people (I'm sure if the hardcore Otaku remembered Akiba the way it was they would certainly kill him).

Also whats her name red head girl is almost as stupid for letting him just use the thingy in the first place.
If someone from SERN showed up and killed every lab member, then destroyed the time machine they would automatically become the hero's of this story. In killing the fucking moron they would be doing the universe a great favor.

Lastly he's really shot himself in the foot with this latest one.

(click to show/hide)He cannot directly stop her since that timeline no longer exsists as far as I understand. He cannot undo her change, because he has no idea what the fuck she did. The only way to undo this damage is pretty much kidnap that silly bitch, strap her into a lie detector and force the truth of her whole life story (Under threat of massive torture if the lie detector goes off) out of her. That should provide the knowledge needed to understand what she went and did. This in turn should provide a means to counter her change and force the present back to (roughly) the way it was before.
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Nope, he can't undo that change, first of all, he will not know what was changed because she no longer remembers that, the only way he CAN find out what it could have been is asking her father what happened 10 years ago and sending a message to make it happen. My bet would be she stopped her father from going somewhere or doing something, or made him do something or go somewhere, but yeah, he should be fucking shot in the head, not only he didn't notice he lost the fucking IBN but also now he probably will never even see one and now he probably lost all possibility to get it anyways, the only way he also can reverse that to some degree is sending a text to himself from a few weeks ago to not let anyone make any changes in the past, the experiments he was performing were pretty harmless, a text to himself from a few minutes back that has nothing in particular.

He is plain stupid.

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Your wrong too. The way I understand this system of time travel he cannot send a message to himself to stop her from using it because in the present time line she has never used it. Therefore he cannot block her from changing the past because in this timeline there is no changing of the past.........which is a paradox.......to alter the past she sends a message to someone, but in the new timeline created there no longer is a previous timeline which the change originated from. This is a bit messed up because it contridicts cause and effect.

However, one thing that has just become clear to me is that even if the timeline where the change originated from ceases to exist in the new timeline, the source of the change is still present. In otherwords the stupid message she sent still exists in this new world. If he wanted to change things back his best hope is to do what I suggested (Capture, torture, truth syrum, ect) the cat girl, whats her name, and hope that she sent the message to herself and can get her to reveal what was said in it.

Havoc10K:
it would still project a new timeline instead of fixing it, oh how time consequences are fun to mess around :)
if he finds out what she could have changed he would have to make the change never happen, and still it would produce a new timeline, that wold be similar to the previous where the change never happened, but there would still be a change, each change already done make a domino rule,

Lotto numbers<
Lotto numbers<Card Numbers<
Lotto numbers<Card Numbers<phone change<
Lotto numbers<Card Numbers<phone change<Gender Change<
Lotto numbers<Card Numbers<phone change<Gender Change<Event Change<
Lotto numbers<Card Numbers<phone change<Gender Change<Event Change<Next Change

from farthest change to nearest, all changes produce new timeline and new events and their consequences, additionally, in every time the result could become different, when he was asked for a phone change D-Mail the lotto did not happen, but we don't know which events do repeat or don't because not all are mentioned, the paradox will keep deepening and ultimately he will lose his mind completely.

there is no stopping that, the only way to actually stop all this madness is ... killing Kurisu since she increases their lab's overall productivity with HER genius and one more thing.

The Part timer seems to also remember events happening, she doesn't bother herself with that since her priority seems to be getting rid of Kurisu. And i think this is the target of this show.

froody1911:

--- Quote from: Havoc10K on June 01, 2011, 11:46:28 AM ---ultimately he will lose his mind completely.

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>> implying that he isn't completely out of his mind already

Havoc10K:
No, he sees reality yet, in a bit, he won't even notice anything and walk around naked and all that :)

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