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Steins;Gate [Series] [Visual Novel translated]
Meomix:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on August 17, 2011, 07:10:19 AM ---There are possible ways of preventing her death, but like Meomix said, first episode now makes a lot more sense, maybe you should rewatch it, i think it's on BluRays already.
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(click to show/hide)Nah i'm talking about halfway through the series when Okabe was talking about his past before the events of episode 1 even began, 9 year old Mayushi was acting awfully strange at one particular instance.
And then there's the dessert scene and that AD timer that keeps flickering across the screen.
If you were to rewind that AD timer all the way down to 0 what era would it point to?
tomoya-kun:
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I wish he'd just stay on that time line so that I can see how Makise joins them, I'm not sure how that would happen. Maybe through forceful capture?
Nikran:
The series has proven to be quite interesting.
(click to show/hide)Though I do have some problems with the predetermined events (regardless of time travel). Tbh it should be impossible to get back to his beta timeline because of how d-mail works. D-mail results in a cause and effect where once you've sent a d-mail the cause ceases to exist and only the effect remains. Okabe might have averted the events resulting from the d-mail by sending another d-mail in turn, however he still couldn't get rid of the original d-mails sent. The very act of receiving those messages on peoples phones and reading them alters history and only by erasing them (before being received and read) could you unmake every change that has happend.
Steins gate time travel is seriously harsh and lenient at the same time. Only in there world could you have world lines where every timeline has predetermined events which they ALL lead to. Yet reverting changes doesn't demand that you remove the original change, infact you can make another change to fix things and everything is peachy (Despite two alterations now present in the timeline).
Havoc10K:
--- Quote from: Nikran on August 17, 2011, 09:03:59 AM ---The series has proven to be quite interesting.
(click to show/hide)Though I do have some problems with the predetermined events (regardless of time travel). Tbh it should be impossible to get back to his beta timeline because of how d-mail works. D-mail results in a cause and effect where once you've sent a d-mail the cause ceases to exist and only the effect remains. Okabe might have averted the events resulting from the d-mail by sending another d-mail in turn, however he still couldn't get rid of the original d-mails sent. The very act of receiving those messages on peoples phones and reading them alters history and only by erasing them (before being received and read) could you unmake every change that has happend.
Steins gate time travel is seriously harsh and lenient at the same time. Only in there world could you have world lines where every timeline has predetermined events which they ALL lead to. Yet reverting changes doesn't demand that you remove the original change, infact you can make another change to fix things and everything is peachy (Despite two alterations now present in the timeline).
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(click to show/hide)He isn't coming back to the original timeline because that is impossible, but it is possible to create a timeline similar to it, it's the beta timeline. Right now he is reshaping the Alpha timeline that started at original timeline where he sent the first d-mail.
All this work is still going to end up in the Beta timeline like Suzu said, right now they are on the threads of one line, originating from the first timeline. Their goal is to jump from that line through the threads onto the Beta Time line. They are not restoring the timeline to original point. They are shifting through them to the starting point in a different timeline that is similar to the first one.
I so hope this makes sense to you. I really do :) it sounds very complicated.
Nikran:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on August 17, 2011, 09:30:58 AM --- (click to show/hide)He isn't coming back to the original timeline because that is impossible, but it is possible to create a timeline similar to it, it's the beta timeline. Right now he is reshaping the Alpha timeline that started at original timeline where he sent the first d-mail.
All this work is still going to end up in the Beta timeline like Suzu said, right now they are on the threads of one line, originating from the first timeline. Their goal is to jump from that line through the threads onto the Beta Time line. They are not restoring the timeline to original point. They are shifting through them to the starting point in a different timeline that is similar to the first one.
I so hope this makes sense to you. I really do :) it sounds very complicated.
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hmm...
(click to show/hide)A world similar to the original beta one, possible. Yet the world created will be very far off because of countless changes from multiple effects (The d-mails) still present in the timeline. Even something as small as receiving a message and taking the time to read it alters history. That person should have been at X place at X time, but because of that message they might be at the location late or now goto a whole new location. That persons history will continue to be diffrent from they way it would have gone if they did not get the d-mail and it can result in endless changes, both big and small to their life. This will not remain isolated to that person who recieved the message, because they have divated from their path they affect the paths of everyone they interact with and those people in turn will go on to affect others they interact with. This results in an infinite web of changes that kicked off from such a small thing as getting a text message.
Now that I just said above was complicated, your thing was simple in comparison =P
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