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Re: Rift!
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2011, 07:12:55 PM »
I will do the same. Learned for mmy mistake about AION :P

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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2011, 02:50:02 PM »
I played one of the beta's for Rift and it was fun.  They soul system for the classes is kinda overwhelming.  I love the variety but at the same time I spent WAY to much time just trying to figure out what I wanted to play.  The game sucked me in much more than Aion did.  Although one big complaint I had is the game tired to start in something like 1960x1080 resolution.  I was using and old CRT monitor at the time, and that is higher res than i can support so it kept shutting off my monitor.  So I had to spend 10 min or so trying to change the resolution w/o loading into the game.  (I think I found the trick was to force it into window mode, then I could play with the resolution).  Sadly the game doesn't like 1042 x 768 res much and I would get odd blurry lines across the screen.  Every couple of inches there would be a 1/4" strip that if there was text there I couldn't read it.
But I do have a new 23" flat screen monitor now, so it removes that issue and makes it a possibility for playing it. But I'm kind rather torn right now because 1/2 my friends still play WoW but the other 1/2 left for Rift.  I can't afford both, nor do I have the time to play both, but so far I can't bring myself to completely drop WoW for Rift, even tho I would really like to game with the group of friends that left of Rift.   
So its turning out to be a hard decision for me, not just based on the game, but based on who is playing it.  ./sign.

Just remember,  before you criticize someone, walk a mile in there shoes.  That way you are a mile away and have their shoes. :P

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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2011, 09:02:00 AM »
They just released the latest patch 1.1.

Starts a world event, not just zone.  A death invasion for the whole world, and upon completing it will open a new raid.  Yea, similar to AQ in WoW.  All levels can participate with unique rewards just for this event.  And expect many additions to come each month.  Remember this is an MMO that was just released, while the others were trying to fix their bugs each month, Rift adds new content.  Great devs.

I mentioned earlier about coinlock for added security (locks account if using a vastly different IP), they also added an authenticator.  Free for those using a droid.

Easier reporting of bots in warfronts (BGs).  So if reported they have to actually participate or get banished.

Can now unmerge groups.  Public grouping made it easy to merge already made groups during invasions, now the leader can unmerge them to go back to the way it was.

Built in video capture.  It will capture, encode, and can upload it directly to your YouTube account.  All while in game.

Here's a test clip I just made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ztyc-9lxNc

The encoding is kinda horrible.  Looks much better in game.  But it's free and built in and with no probs first time trying it.
I do plan on upgrading my video card.  5770 was more than enough for WoW, but I want better since I'll be playing Rift for now on.


So far so good.  The devs are on top of their game, keeping my faith in them with no regrets.






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Re: Rift!
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2011, 04:01:29 PM »
So, I just gave a try to the trial, I am not gonna compare this game by names to any other games, but seeing how much backup this title has it could have been a lot better, so far i am playing as a mage, Pyromancer, Elementalist, Stormer, problem is, those classes are hardly living up to their names, Pyro spell damage is funny (low), I played very old games where a single fireball meant big devastations, newer games have a fireball that still does devastate, even if at smaller ranges, this is definitely not a class for those that want to deal damage even early in the game, Elementalist is a joke, basically I can summon and control an elemental, the name Elementalist generally made me think I could use some cool spells, but when I read it wasn't very interesting, no wonder a lot of necromancers and dominators walk around, I barely see any stormers, for good reason too, it appears their very basic spell, electrocute, often doesn't even work, Thunder Blast as some players say should have been a small AOE spell hitting 2-3 targets that are close together, back to pyro though, one spell made me want to have that class, Flame Jet, according to the tooltip, the spell damages any enemies group in front of caster at 7 m, well, it appears we, players, are fucking huge beings cuz the spell doesn't even go past my shadow, hell, even with 5 enemies in front of me attacking the tank, they are around 4-5, and they are directly in front of me, only 2-3 are affected, another bad factor of the game is death and ressing, you die, you get a choice of soul walk, which is simply idiotic, or do a corpse run, well, enjoy the latter, why ? you will do that a lot if you die, reason simple, you have no idea what is in your corpse's vicinity, how many enemies simply camp for you to respawn, many times it happened that when I respawned, I got insta killed by a mob that was around me like probably behind me, just waiting, to kill you again, another aspect of dying that terribly annoys me is vitality, what actually happens to you when you lose all vitality ? i tried to read up about it but there is no information about it.

The only good thing about this game is the Rift events, they are actually pretty challenging, especially when mobs are 2-3 levels ahead of you, this is something a lot of games could benefit from, i remember WOW had a similar event but it stopped, at the very least.

The visual level of the game is not it's good point, a game that is launched in an age of very advanced graphics adapters could benefit more from more advanced visual effects, sadly there are very few of those in this game. Even with my crappy old Athlon XP 64 5000+ on highest settings I run the game without much problems, and still the improvement to the visual level is very small.

This game lacks a lot in my eyes, but at least I am not wasting my time on a full game, the controls are terrible, and from what I see only one race is good enough to play, the defiants middle race, they are colorful, and interesting, every otehr race is very meh, I was actually hoping to see something new for a change, but yet again, humans, elves and dwarfs in a single alliance, and a lot better races in the other on the opposing side.

At this point it is hard to say but FF14 has very interesting races, even FF11 is better, I'm personally fed up with Humans, elves and dwarves, it's so unoriginal, I han live up with orcs, they are always stupid and you can expect them to be bad, but at least you can smash their face in and there is no difference :P

I am very disappointed.

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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2011, 05:37:50 AM »
I kinda quit playing after reaching 50.  It was pretty easy to level.  As a Justicar/Shaman, I just attacked everything, pulling as many as I can.  But I do die since I don't pay attention and tag elites too.  Though I can solo elites, which I got server first for some, but not when they are with an army.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3EGr-uMrzA
Using self crafted gear and ingame video capture, hitting 50.  This is from just using two macros ;)  One for single target and other for AoE...auto uses my specials when they proc.  Can be pretty boring.  And yea, the surroundings are kinda dreary in this area... and most others.

Mages have the toughest time leveling, but when I last played, they owned pvp.  Putting up some area buff which you can't interrupt them, then proceeding to nuke people, sometimes even one shotting.  OP with a pocket healer.  But they do have great devs.  Additions are done within weeks, not months.  Like they just added a LFG for dungeons.

My friend went back to WoW with that free 7 day thing they give to unsubscribers.  I get them too.  Guild wants me back (seems they are still having probs with attendance) and are already farming most of the bosses in heroic, but told them I'm done with MMO's for awhile.

Most of us are waiting for SWTOR, but last I heard that's been pushed to 2012.  I'm no longer even interested in Tera or Guild Wars 2, thinking it will become the same.

But there is one game that I'm dying for: Blade & Soul.  I'm in love with these character designs....even if they are human, and also love the gameplay.  Beta is already out in Asia.  From what I've seen, I'm even more stoked and like how they included many cutscenes.
http://www.bladeandsoul.com/global/en

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« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2011, 07:18:53 AM »
I have no problems with mage leveling, I've respecced my souls and now pretty much own everything, gonna get rid of stormer cuz lightning is what most mobs seems to be highly resistant to, at least from my perspective, lately I been casting this and I only see resisted all the time so I just use icicle and frost blast.

I really enjoy the Defend and Rifts events, they are really fun, if only I didn't DL a few torrents last time I would have been more helpful XD

Yeah i also wait for Soul and Blade, although I think all the hard work will be crushed again by ncsoft with their gold shop :P
I hope the game will be what we see in the trailer, though dunno if you noticed but a single hit takes around 300-400, which means what we see is a pretty high level already, I won't even touch kung-fu master, only assassin and force master for me :)
also, my rule no1.
-Always play the female char XD

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« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2011, 09:02:41 AM »
Yep, I want to be a Lin.  Afterall, my main on WoW is a pink pony tailed gnome ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN-sSGjyowg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSyKBfHPilQ

But with the close combat being so sweet in this game, I'm reluctant to try a caster.

Prob seen these before, but anyways:

Starting area combat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEV99OnLJGU
I love the sprinting ability....especial ly on water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLLR_p5UfMI
Their version of portals/flight paths blows everything else away:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x99b-3G0ot4
And I like the many cutscenes in game using own character:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5LgYMngzrQ

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« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2011, 09:31:27 AM »
Wow, did I see a proper counter channel timer ? wariors using a proper counter-attack or parry is a rare thing, using it as an actual ability is very rare, because it's mechanics have never been correct, many mmo games that tried to use it abandoned the idea and left it in the way WOW uses, as a triggered passive ability.

Proper Stamina mechanics for sprinting, also the abilities seem to use a specific resource, instead of mana and the likes.

Now that is what I call fast travel :)

Really nice rendering in the cutscenes,
This game has a good chance to be a WoW distractor, but will not kill it, more likely, NCsoft will kill it with gold shop, that is my greatest fear at the moment.

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« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2011, 12:42:37 PM »
Currently rolling a lock as main with necro as sub and pyro as third, and for me, this build works great. I got 12 points on necro which gives me the tanking pet and the rest of my points on lock. I have no problem soloing and pulling at least 3-5 mobs AoEing them. For me, its very easy to lvl with my mage. Got to 3x in three days, usued to play rouge but this build was way more fun.

It works great for me in WF PvP as well, as dps. Usually I'm around 10k-20k higher damage done than the one on second place. I tried messing around with other builds for mage too, but i gotta say lock/necro is the best one, at least for me.

Another thing is the 7-days trial version of rift aint that good cause you will only be able to reach level 15. imo it's not enough to really grasp what rift is about.

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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2011, 02:41:08 AM »
Currently rolling a lock as main with necro as sub and pyro as third, and for me, this build works great. I got 12 points on necro which gives me the tanking pet and the rest of my points on lock. I have no problem soloing and pulling at least 3-5 mobs AoEing them. For me, its very easy to lvl with my mage. Got to 3x in three days, usued to play rouge but this build was way more fun.

It works great for me in WF PvP as well, as dps. Usually I'm around 10k-20k higher damage done than the one on second place. I tried messing around with other builds for mage too, but i gotta say lock/necro is the best one, at least for me.

Another thing is the 7-days trial version of rift aint that good cause you will only be able to reach level 15. imo it's not enough to really grasp what rift is about.
What is it about? The only difference between Rift and WoW so far is Rift has a very nice open world PvE while WoW doesn't. Oh, on the negative side, Rift's souls are still unbalanced to what I heard. I played Rift Trial until level 15. I really enjoyed the game and I loved the graphics. But ... I'm not sure if it's even worth it. Convince me how good Rift is. Talk about leveling from 20 to 50 and what do you do when you reach 50.

This is what my WoW character looks like at the moment:

Halfus Hardmode
Maloriak Hardmode
Magmaw Hardmode

I enjoy both Raiding and PvPing in WoW at the moment and well, it has been on the market for long so it's pretty polished at the moment. Is Rift's souls balanced in PvP? What's raiding like in Rift? Not open world PvE, I'm talking about being in a guild and doing a real big raid (10-25, whatever Rift offers in instances). Are there Hardmodes? Are the souls balanced in PvP for 1 vs 1 or for as teams? Is there Arenas?


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« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2011, 05:55:31 AM »
the +
wide, rich and fun PVE world, rich with fun events (Rifts and battles with elite attackers)
reset soul points to respecc

the -
highly unbalanced soul system, inability to reset the souls, you have to do a quest for it, trial players probably can't, I didn't make it to meridian or what it was (I was on the bad guys side, although from the story I saw, i'm on the good side hahahah)
Humans, Elves and dwarves in one alliance ... again
opposing force isn't that much different (nearly same models just different paint job)
lack of gear, initial gear cannot be sold o_O
PVP is pretty crappy due to unbalanced soul system, I mostly saw necros mages and some wariors but I didn't play a warior so don't know what sols they have, but yeah, I mostly saw mages in PVP, on necros souls, that means that among so many souls they made only one superior, and once again, it's the dark arts one (WOW most powerful spellcaster in PVP is warlock, Blizzard likes to buff it, they can now heal themselves lol, I still played my shaman cuz I can kill wariors with it :P )

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« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2011, 09:32:29 PM »
the +
wide, rich and fun PVE world, rich with fun events (Rifts and battles with elite attackers)
reset soul points to respecc

the -
highly unbalanced soul system, inability to reset the souls, you have to do a quest for it, trial players probably can't, I didn't make it to meridian or what it was (I was on the bad guys side, although from the story I saw, i'm on the good side hahahah)
Humans, Elves and dwarves in one alliance ... again
opposing force isn't that much different (nearly same models just different paint job)
lack of gear, initial gear cannot be sold o_O
PVP is pretty crappy due to unbalanced soul system, I mostly saw necros mages and some wariors but I didn't play a warior so don't know what sols they have, but yeah, I mostly saw mages in PVP, on necros souls, that means that among so many souls they made only one superior, and once again, it's the dark arts one (WOW most powerful spellcaster in PVP is warlock, Blizzard likes to buff it, they can now heal themselves lol, I still played my shaman cuz I can kill wariors with it :P )
Warlocks got some major nerfs in Cata. The most powerful PvP caster class are mages (all types) followed by Shadow Priests. Also, Shamans are easier than said. I've dueled some high rated Shamans of all specs. The worst one is of course Enhancement but they're not that difficult.

I honestly don't like the unbalanced 1 versus 1 PvP in WoW, they want you to team up with people to make it "balanced".

Yep, I want to be a Lin.  Afterall, my main on WoW is a pink pony tailed gnome ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN-sSGjyowg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSyKBfHPilQ

But with the close combat being so sweet in this game, I'm reluctant to try a caster.

Prob seen these before, but anyways:

Starting area combat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEV99OnLJGU
I love the sprinting ability....especial ly on water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLLR_p5UfMI
Their version of portals/flight paths blows everything else away:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x99b-3G0ot4
And I like the many cutscenes in game using own character:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5LgYMngzrQ

This can't be RIFT. What game is this?


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« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2011, 10:03:32 PM »
But there is one game that I'm dying for: Blade & Soul.  I'm in love with these character designs....even if they are human, and also love the gameplay.  Beta is already out in Asia.  From what I've seen, I'm even more stoked and like how they included many cutscenes.
http://www.bladeandsoul.com/global/en

Oops, I was derailing the thread ;)  Should have it's own.

As for WoW, yea, Locks got nerfed hard in Cata.  Like when Shadow Priests became more OP with the lock's buff: Dark Intent.  What did they do?  They nerfed Dark Intent.  Well Locks are again the least played class and glad I left, but Shadow Priests are getting some nerfs soon.
I never cared if mages can outdps a lock; but when a lesser geared Shadow Priest out dots an Affliction Lock, I get upset.

Back to Rift:  Since you are a tank, here's Towelliee's view on Rift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXa-otCxEDE

IMO, if you are having fun in WoW, no reason to leave.  But that goes for any next gen MMO.  The hardest part is being in a good guild.
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« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2011, 11:09:03 PM »
Actually, even with the nerfs, locks are most powerful class in WoW, it all depends on specc, and lately, there has been a trend for destro and demon locks, affliction got nerfed cuz they were the most used, and people generally just dropped anything else, only affli for dots, which is teh reason why Blizzard made so many changes, it's still unbalanced, but at least less afli locks, less unholy DKs in PVP and less enhancement shammies, also less fire mages and so on, point was to stop being such a pansy for just one specc.

Shamans are best for me still, and I dunno how it went with the patch cuz I stopped playing but the latest patch was supposed to boost Shaman's AOE damage (single target was good) so i'm just wondering.

As for rift, I'm pretty much sure the game will evolve over time, it's still early for it and yet it does make a positive impression, there is still more bad, but seeing how young the game is, it will be corrected soon enough, unlike WoW which takes 3-4 months for some decent hotfix.

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« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2011, 04:31:42 AM »
When is Blade and Soul be out in the US?


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« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2011, 04:52:53 AM »
When is Blade and Soul be out in the US?

Not for along time. Last I read its still in the beta phase in Korea.
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« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2011, 09:29:43 AM »
Actually, even with the nerfs, locks are most powerful class in WoW, it all depends on specc, and lately, there has been a trend for destro and demon locks, affliction got nerfed cuz they were the most used, and people generally just dropped anything else, only affli for dots, which is teh reason why Blizzard made so many changes, it's still unbalanced, but at least less afli locks, less unholy DKs in PVP and less enhancement shammies, also less fire mages and so on, point was to stop being such a pansy for just one specc.

Destro was the lock spec for pvp in Wrath.  Atleast for arenas with their insane burst.  Demo got a lot of changes, and were viable for pvp just before Cata.  Then they nerfed them soon after, so of course, people went back to affliction.  Not because they were pansies, but purely for viability.  In otherwords, if Bliz wanted them to use the other specs, they shouldn't nerf all of them at once.

Now lets look at Destro for PvP.  Destro needs the long cast immolate on the target at all times, to use conflagrate and for all their bonus damage with the fire spells.  A dispeller basically shuts a destro down from doing burst damage.  They lack the survivability of affliction, like instant AoE fear, slow, and to be able to get health back.  Destro is only powerful if noobs ignore them.  The are toast when a melee gets on them.

Demo - like always, becomes almost useless without their pet.  Most all their spells are long casts.  No casting on the run.  Can be shut down.

Affliction - they took away mana drain which was used to punish those that frequently dispel.  Heard they just nerfed drain life again.  Affliction dots just don't kill anyone anymore.

Locks are not the most powerful and are currently the least played class in wow.  They used to be great in 2v2 and overnight seemed to be wiped from that bracket completely....excep t for those whom were already in and stopped playing after the nerfs.  They are good support for the other brackets, but why take a Lock when you can take a much better Shadow Priest?  Shadow Priests still have their mana drain.
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« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2011, 11:05:46 AM »
possibly, I always attack locks on PVP, as my shaman was always elemental some of the buffs they had were pretty cool, duno how the new setup works for them now as I didn't like half of them.

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« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2011, 06:42:41 PM »
possibly, I always attack locks on PVP, as my shaman was always elemental some of the buffs they had were pretty cool, duno how the new setup works for them now as I didn't like half of them.
In 1v1 situations, it's unbalanced so you won't always win against some certain classes. PvP Warlocks can be a hinder to your class but don't forget if your enhancement you shouldn't complain once. You have one of the best bursts in the game at the moment.


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« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2011, 07:08:38 PM »
I'm elemental, since the start and till the dawn of WoW :)
(off specc sometimes resto sometimes enh, but not for PVP :P )