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intel:
And here...

JoonasTo:
Had he bitch slapped the smaller kid he would have probably fallen down.
Seeing as the smaller kid is obviously provoking him for a fight, not seriously attacking him using force on a serious intention of harming the other is overboard. Had he tried by smaller force before it might be different but from the video I've seen he ignores him at the start and just stands there. Then he goes in and throws the smaller kid against the stones and the wall of the greenery.


Laws are pretty different in countries, true. I think Norway has something like you have to run 100m before you can turn and respond or something. Other's have conditions that you have to shout stop or help and so forth.


If you stomp someone's foot for self defense while it is completely reasonable at the time and an easy way to make him/her stop but seeing as stomping someone's foot easily breaks all the small bones there and really fucks it up it counts really easy as excessive force and you will have to pay for the other guy's surgery if you're in bad luck.


A little off-topic but about knives, they're pretty nasty issue since the law sees them as deadly weapons in just about everywhere. So if you use a knife in self-defense you're fucked unless the other guy also has a knife or a gun. This also means that if you get attacked by someone and use a knife in self-defense and the previously unarmed offender pulls out a gun at this point he is right in eyes of the law if he shoots you. Of course he'll still be charged with assault but shooting you was self-defense.


PS. If you're a woman and the assaulter's a man you can get off with anything as long as you call rape.


Seeing the results from the schools side, seems reasonable.
Not that I ever got what's so bad about suspending from school. It would have been like a prize for me back when I was in school.  ;D

AceHigh:
Even though we all have the right to defend ourself, because of people that have a mentality like JoonasTo, in practice it is always the guy left standing that gets all the blame, even though he doesn't assault anyone.


--- Quote from: JoonasTo on March 16, 2011, 12:28:14 PM ---Had he bitch slapped the smaller kid he would have probably fallen down.
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Probably, maybe, theoretically, speculatively....

Here are the cold hard facts:
1. Rat Kid attacked
2. Chubby kid defended himself.
3. Chubby kid stopped the fight.


--- Quote from: JoonasTo on March 15, 2011, 11:29:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: BrownMasterV on March 15, 2011, 11:25:43 PM ---Kids are stupid.
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Incorrect. Smarts are not related to age, believe it or not.
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Knowledge is. Kids don't have enough knowledge and experience to know how everything may end up as. That is what they receive when they grow up.

For instance this was a good lesson for the rat kid not to fuck with people twice his mass.

JoonasTo:
Now ace got me all wrong. The fat kid could have killed the smaller one and I couldn't care less. Our society just doesn't work that way though and maybe it is for the best. We'd be having a lot more assaults if it did. What I'm saying is this is how things go, if people go all way to go fatty that's how it should be done we'll have a lot of kids in problems.

Small kid provoked
Fat kid attacked without thinking, just wanting to show off.

No problems if things go like they did but what if they don't?

How about the next when the small kid comes down head first, on his neck or his back hits the curb his leg did now? Dead, paralysed from his neck down for life, paralysed from his waist down for his life? Result for the fat kid? Jail and payments he can't clear in his life, life ruined. For what? Wanting to show off to some low life? Worth it? I doubt.


Yes, knowledge, experience and partly wisdom is relevant to age.

undetz:

--- Quote from: JoonasTo on March 16, 2011, 01:17:39 PM ---Small kid provoked
Fat kid attacked without thinking, just wanting to show off.

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I'd say this is where you go wrong. The first line is correct, the small kid provoked, and also attacked.
Then the fat kid attacked once and immediately stopped, even before anyone else could step in. That's not "showing off" or anything, it's perfectly reasonable behaviour in the given situation where you're being attacked by a person who's apparently got a group backing them up and filming the whole thing.

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