The REAL bully beatdown

[JoonasTo]

It's not the number of attacks here. It's the way he does it. He doesn't hit him like people usually do. He goes in disregarding the attacks and throws him on the ground. Finishes with a puff and walks off.
He could have just pushed him down and walked off.

It's rather obvious that he was doing it as a show of his strenght to stop the kid from messing with him further/revenge from past.

[Takeshi]

It's rather obvious that he was doing it as a show of his strenght to stop the kid from messing with him further/revenge from past.

So what? Is that wrong? Is that not how you are supposed to do it? You can't expect a kid who finally snaps to think rationally. Hopefully, people will leave him alone so won't do it again. He is probably going to get into trouble if it happens if he hasn't already, and you can see that the tiny kid's friend is looking for revenge/payback when he is being stopped by the girl who watched the whole thing go down.

We only know what we see here, maybe the big kid has been bullied for several years, and now he finally snapped. I've been bullied so I can easily understand him although not bullied to the extend we see here. But pretty severe so it has had an impact on my life. So finally seeing someone getting what they deserve is so fulfilling...

Of course, I do hope he hasn't sustained permanent damage, that would be horrible, for him and for the big kid.

[AceHigh]

He was suspended for 4 days, the rat kid got suspended for 20 days.

Also, some people don't like to hit, but rather push/grab/throw people. Doesn't mean he is showing off.

[Burkingam]

Looking at his physical constitution, I would say grabbing is probably easier than punching in fact. Beside, punching someone isn't exactly safe either. If you punch at the wrong place, you can kill him. I would say he defended himself the best way he could. I don't think he was showing off.

[Guru Zeb]

It's not the number of attacks here. It's the way he does it. He doesn't hit him like people usually do. He goes in disregarding the attacks and throws him on the ground. Finishes with a puff and walks off.
He could have just pushed him down and walked off.

It's rather obvious that he was doing it as a show of his strenght to stop the kid from messing with him further/revenge from past.

WTF   ........ where are you getting all these little details like "Finishes with a puff" i see and hear no indication of a "puff"
 "It's rather obvious that he was doing it as a show of his strenght to stop the kid from messing with him further/revenge from past" ....... I strongly suspect ONLY in your dubious opinion. Once again i see no evidence to support this idea, in fact much to the contrary. The QFK spends no time gloating over his victory, doesn't taunt or even admonish the thin kid, but promptly walks away saying nothing ...... odd behaviour for someone "showing off his strength".  

Serious question do you have some issue with violence in general?? Buddhist, pacifist, etc.

Am baffled at your attempts to bend this situation around 180 degrees.
The thin kid attacks the QFK strikes him a good hard shot to the face that almost bounces his head off the wall !!!.
Lands a few other more minor blows.
The QFK takes all this with no offensive action ....... probably hoping thin kid tires of it and leaves him alone.
More blows and QFK defends himself, attacks once and leaves. How is this anything other than TEXT BOOK self defence.

You keep talking about the risk to the thin kid ( which many would reasonably argue he generated himself ), but seem oblivious to the risks that the QFK was placed under by an apparently unprovoked attack.
What if the thin kids next attack had been a straight kick to the knee ( quite capable of destroying the joint and imposing lifelong dysfunction )
or the next heavy punch hit the spot just above and behind the ear ( which can render anyone instantly unconscious with very little force )
Seems your concern is that the QFK WON by using violence .......... but this totally ignores the main fact that he has attacked 1st and merely defended himself. I find that pretty twisted logic. How about some concern for the damage the ATTACKER may have done.

[JoonasTo]

There was a puff, look at him right after the throw. Can't say for sure if it was because of the other guy but it's there.

As for the revenge part, he just stands there, lets him hit him until he decides it's good and enough. That doesn't look like your normal defending yourself. If he was doing it normally, he'd do something after the second at least.

No, I don't have an issue with violence. Or actually, now that I think about it, I do. But it's quite the opposite. I like violence if I would have the choice I'd legalise everything goes fights to the death. Heck, I'd probably even take part and lose horribly.

I am not trying to turn this 180, I think the thinny kid's friends are at fault for this but what I am trying to do is make people see that the fat kid wasn't right or good in any way.
The first hit is more about the fat kid pulling his head back than the force of the strike.
There's no force behind the next strikes.
Waiting for him to tire, right. By staying completely silent guarding his face. It COULD happen.
It's pretty obvious he goes in and tries to get a grab out of his head(not many good things I can imagine from there), he fails so they just struggle, he gots on his back and he throws him on the ground.

I am talking about the risks to the thinny kid because I'm looking at this from the fat kid's side. His injuries are less likely after the first hit and also less danger for him. Would you rather limb a year or spend five years in jail?
That kid couldn't kick strong enough even if he put all his weight into it to break his knee. Not to mention permanently, you can put 80kg guy in football game kicking from fullspeed to a 70kg guy's knee and it will heal in 8 months. Now were talking about kids who heal faster and better and about a kid who wieghts maybe 1/3rd of the other and can't probably support his kicks properly. Not a snowballs chance in hell.
The biggest danger to the biggest guy would have been being afraid of the first strike(which he was) and hitting his head against the wall with his own force(which he didn't).
My concern isn't the big guy winning with violence, it's the way most people make it seem like a good thing he used excessive violence where a simple push to topple the think guy over would have sufficed. If this encourages someone else to do this somewhere and he ends up ruining his and the bully's life because of it I don't think that's a good thing.

So TL:DR, in situations like these the injuries are usually minor if any but if you retaliate like the fat kid did you can have issues with law that can fuck up your life.

[rostheferret]

A simple push would have only made him more inclined to get up and keeping hitting the kid, and then what? Keep pushing him? Keep provoking the bully further? Self-Defence is simply doing what's required in order to defend yourself. If when he was down he continued to attack, that's no longer self defence. It's always a slippery slope between what's excessive and what isn't, but just pushing him certainly wouldn't do crap. Either that or the bullies you faced are real pansies.

I've seen a few fights break out and if there's one thing I've learnt its never throw the first punch. The reason it takes so long most of the time is because whoever gets hit first can claim to be defending themselves. When a punch-up occurs, you think they both get done for assault? No, it's whoever initiated the fight.

[AceHigh]

As they taught in the military: the best way to stop a fight is to "disable" the assailant. That is the biggest different between thugs and people who are skilled, the latter finish the fights a second after they start. I don't see how the fat kid did anything disproportional in this case. He did everything completely right, he disabled the assailant in such manner that even the friends of the bullies didn't join in. He ended a fight without even fighting much himself. Good kid.

Also JoonasTo is trying desperately to come out of a situation without admitting to being wrong. Very simple.

However in local news the mother of the bully said that her son deserved it, as she didn't raise him to be a bully. Even his mother who loves her kid very much sees the event from an objective point of view.

[Ixarku]

I think the fat kid reacted naturally for someone his size.  I've been around enough quiet, big kids in my life to have developed a conception of how they would react when provoked.  It's not at all uncommon for kids to wrestle with each other, for fun or otherwise, and I think a big kid who's not used to being in fistfights is going to be more likely to respond when provoked by grabbing his opponent and throwing his ass on the ground, or some variation thereof, rather than throwing a punch.

I think, perhaps, this is where Joonas' perceptions differ from the rest of us.  I think the fat kid reacted naturally, probably in a burst of anger, without malice aforethought, using his strength in the way he was most accustomed to, with a sort of improvised wrestling move.  Fat kid wasn't thinking, "I could injure this schmuck for life if I bodyslam him!"

[dariofr]

I think i came a bit when i watched it the first time this morning

[mgz]

Related- http://www.frikid.com/showVideo.php?lid=1105

I coulnt find the entire video but basically, the kid gets bullied then pwns the bully.

because people get fucking sued when this happens in non shithole places

Nope, only in USA. Haven't heard of anyone suing over something as trivial as school violence or bullying. Something similar happened when I went to school, a well known instigator got punched so hard in the stomach that he was throwing up for a while. Of course the principal didn't say a word to the guy who punched him, because it was well known that the idiot is always asking for trouble on a daily basis.

Yea, something happens once or twice out of a few million instances and suddenly its the norm?
Of course there are always gonna be greedy assholes who want to make a case out of nothing, but its pretty rare that it ever gets past the desk clerk.

i guess its more normal when your in an area that starts at just shy of upper middle class and ranges to old money in one little town and have several other similar towns around you.