Author Topic: Nintendo 3DS at Launch (Read 2820 times)

vicious796 · « **on:** March 22, 2011, 01:37:42 PM »

I'm really torn on it, to be honest. I like the built-in features and the communication in sleep mode while going through crowded places could be nifty if any achievements are made available or hidden features in games. I like the AR cards, I think they're a nice gimmick. However, there are no games coming out at launch that attract me in the slightest. In honesty, I'd simply be playing the same old DS games I have already like Pokemon and Rune Factory.

What's worse (or better) is that no games that are announced already intrigue me for another 6 months or so - until Ocarina of Time and Starfox. Sadly, both are remakes but would be nice to play again. Animal Crossing would have been enough at launch to pull me but that, even, has no release date listed.

Thoughts?

newy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:43:31 PM »

I've been playing with the thought to buy one, but probably just after the first price deduction. Would be my second handheld after the father of father of ... father of 3DS: Game Boy classic

Temuthril · « **Reply #2 on:** March 22, 2011, 03:12:16 PM »

Region locking (Europe says hi), bad battery life, not interested in launch titles.
Plus I have a backlog of 17 DS games, 14 PSP games and 3 Wii games, so not in a hurry.

I'll probably consider it when Ocarina of Time comes out and someone figures out how to play undubs on it.

SeventyX7 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2011, 08:18:30 PM »

I heard the battery life is 2.5-4 hours. I'll definitely wait until they get a model that increases that.

occasional · « **Reply #4 on:** March 22, 2011, 09:13:05 PM »

2.5-4 hours? For NDS games? Lame. I understand 3D and all, but the NGP will have PS3-like graphics and probably last 3-5 hours.

Still, I don't understand what consoles these consoles "portable." You basically have to use a charger all the time. Might as well as buy a gaming laptop, same battery life, better graphics, much more useful overall.

Good old GBC and GBA would last for days of Pokemon gaming before the indicator turned red...

Temuthril · « **Reply #5 on:** March 22, 2011, 10:32:17 PM »

Quote from: occasional on March 22, 2011, 09:13:05 PM

2.5-4 hours? For NDS games?

No, for 3DS games. NDS games last somewhat longer.

mgz · « **Reply #6 on:** March 22, 2011, 11:10:15 PM »

Quote from: newy on March 22, 2011, 01:43:31 PM

I've been playing with the thought to buy one, but probably just after the first price deduction. Would be my second handheld after the father of father of ... father of 3DS: Game Boy classic

its ok ive only bought 2 handheld systems too.
Greenscreen gameboy (still have and still works) and the fold in half one(lost it or it got stolen dont know which)

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #7 on:** March 22, 2011, 11:14:52 PM »

It's a bit of a gimmick honestly. The hardware isn't much different from a regular DSi or DSi XL, plus most of the games that are coming to the 3DS are also gonna have DS releases as well. I think one of the few titles that won't dual release is Zelda OoT (cause you'd need the thumb stick to play the game)... I just got myself the DSi + Pokemon Black bundle. Enjoying myself some Pocket Monsters.

Temuthril · « **Reply #8 on:** March 22, 2011, 11:25:42 PM »

Quote from: TMRNetShark on March 22, 2011, 11:14:52 PM

The hardware isn't much different from a regular DSi or DSi XL

That's like saying PS3 hardware isn't much different from a PS2.

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plus most of the games that are coming to the 3DS are also gonna have DS releases as well.

[citation needed].

Sosseres · « **Reply #9 on:** March 22, 2011, 11:54:43 PM »

The last handheld I owned was ~12 years ago, maybe a bit more. So I choose that I am not interested. ^^

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #10 on:** March 23, 2011, 12:44:18 AM »

Quote from: Temuthril on March 22, 2011, 11:25:42 PM

Quote from: TMRNetShark on March 22, 2011, 11:14:52 PM
The hardware isn't much different from a regular DSi or DSi XL
That's like saying PS3 hardware isn't much different from a PS2.

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plus most of the games that are coming to the 3DS are also gonna have DS releases as well.
[citation needed].

The PS2 had one CPU... the PS3 has nine cores in it's CPU.
The 3DS has two (OMG) ARM11 CPUs running at 266 MHz, while the DSi has one ARM9 at 133 MHz and one ARM7 at 33 MHz.
The 3DS has 64 MBs of RAM, the DSi only has 16 MBs of RAM.
The DSi has 5-14 hours of play time... the 3DS has... 2.5-5 hours.

SO

You comparing the two hardwares (DSi and 3DS) to a PS2 to the PS3 is not really working. You see, for such an insignificant increase in CPU power, you lose all that battery life? I always thought the PS2 to the PS3 was a progression in hardware... while the 3DS is a somewhat... regression in it's primary function as a gaming console (battery life and portability).

Citation needed? Ok, when the 3DS comes out... go to your local game store and see for yourself whether or not you can get the regular DS version of the game along with the 3DS one. It's called a promotional blackout on the regular DS games to promote the 3DS. You might not know it, but corporations are sneaky.

Temuthril · « **Reply #11 on:** March 23, 2011, 09:54:35 AM »

I'll use the following link & GameFAQs as source. Lets start counting. (3DS only meaning that there is no DS version, not counting other systems.)
http://www.destructoid.com/here-are-the-u-s-launch-games-for-the-3ds-194773.phtml

Pilotwings Resort - 3DS only
Steel Diver - 3DS only
nintendogs™ + cats - 3DS only
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition - 3DS only
The Sims 3 - DS version too
Madden NFL Football - 3DS only
Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 3D - 3DS only
LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars - DS version too
RIDGE RACER 3D - DS version is from year 2005, I'm assuming it's a different game
Super Monkey Ball 3D - 3DS only
BUST-A-MOVE UNIVERSE - 3DS only
SAMURAI WARRIORS: Chronicles - 3DS only
Asphalt 3D - 3DS only
Combat of Giants: Dinosaurs 3D - 3DS only
Rayman® 3D - 3DS only
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars - 3DS only

Quote from: TMRNetShark on March 23, 2011, 12:44:18 AM

You comparing the two hardwares (DSi and 3DS) to a PS2 to the PS3 is not really working. You see, for such an insignificant increase in CPU power, you lose all that battery life?

The graphics are way better on 3DS than DS. It also has 75% more resolution.

occasional · « **Reply #12 on:** March 23, 2011, 11:23:57 AM »

Quote from: Temuthril on March 22, 2011, 10:32:17 PM

Quote from: occasional on March 22, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
2.5-4 hours? For NDS games?
No, for 3DS games. NDS games last somewhat longer.

Ah, Ok. But still, the graphics quality - battery ratio is rather poor.

Khundes · « **Reply #13 on:** March 23, 2011, 12:19:16 PM »

Have no depth perception so can't see 3D, so 3DS is as interesting to me as a banana peel on the side of the road.

Maybe when an exclusive I'd REALLY want crops up and provided I can turn off the 3D, I might consider it. But until then, I yawn at its 3D gimmick.

Temuthril · « **Reply #14 on:** March 23, 2011, 12:52:03 PM »

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provided I can turn off the 3D, I might consider it.

It has a slider for the strength of 3D effect, which can be turned off too.

vicious796 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 23, 2011, 01:12:41 PM »

As far as the battery life and other technical concerns go, I trust wiki on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS#Technical_comparison

3D 3-5 hours, depending on screen brightness, Wi-Fi, sound volume, and 3D effect
(1300 mAh)

-5-8 hours for DS compatibility mode

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #16 on:** March 23, 2011, 03:10:29 PM »

So am I the only one that's disgusted at the battery life? Even the original DS had a battery life of 6-10 hours which would easily last you a flight or a road trip. The only reason why I'm hating is not because the games, or the 3D, or how massively bulky it is... it how badly the battery lasts. 5 hours charge kills the portability because on my DSi, I can play online with a max charge at an internet cafe or on campus for hours, and still have enough charge to last me the rest of the night playing anywhere in my home.

Let me tell you though, it's the same mistake they did you with original DS... it looked ugly, it was too big, battery life wasn't as good as the Gameboy Advance (which clocked in at 15 hours on one battery set or charge, depending on the difference of the SP model). Yet the DS lite came out with an impressive 15-19 hours on a single charge. So I refuse to buy this current 3DS coming out.... I will however buy the 3DS lite (or i, whatever they want to name their updated model) because it WILL have the battery life of the older DS models... I just gotta wait a year and a half.

Temuthril · « **Reply #17 on:** March 23, 2011, 04:44:19 PM »

Quote from: TMRNetShark on March 23, 2011, 03:10:29 PM

So am I the only one that's disgusted at the battery life?

Quote from: Temuthril on March 22, 2011, 03:12:16 PM

bad battery life

I agree, hence why I won't be buying one, at least near the launch. It's pretty inconvenient to have a portable device, only to be having to charge it constantly.

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the same mistake they did you with original DS... it looked ugly, it was too big

Some prefer it for the buttons & ergonomics (edges are more rounded than on Lite) though.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #18 on:** March 23, 2011, 05:40:47 PM »

Quote from: Temuthril on March 23, 2011, 04:44:19 PM

Some prefer it for the buttons & ergonomics (edges are more rounded than on Lite) though.

Yeah, those some either had really big pockets, or had some other carrying device with them to store the DS in. I can barely fit my DSi in my pocket as of now along with my BB and wallet... imagine trying to fit a 3DS. lol

Temuthril · « **Reply #19 on:** March 23, 2011, 06:45:41 PM »

It's actually pretty much the same size as a regular DSi or Lite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3ds#Technical_comparison