Author Topic: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM  (Read 1118 times)

Offline Tihomir

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Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« on: March 25, 2011, 10:47:49 AM »
A lot of HD Anime can't fit in to DVD or double layer DVD, so buying Blue Ray seems like a logical choice, but its freaking expensive like 200 euro's.
Blue Ray disc Capacity   25 GB (single-layer)  ,50 GB (dual-layer)   ,100/128 GB (BDXL).
Eather this or external Hard Dics that cost same.
I can't decide , but i prefer Blue Ray.
Sugestions please.
Thank you in advance.

Edit:I want to do this so i can free some space on my shelf for more anime.It's like i will have one blue ray disc or external hard instead of 25 DVD's that take a lot of space.Yeah i like to have all my anime on disc's with pictures and stuff.

Offline blo0d

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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 11:14:54 AM »
LG BH10LS Super Multi Blue

Did you look that one up? Seems to be relatively cheap at around 80€, but i don't know if the quality is sufficient, looks good though. Might want to check that one out. Downside: No BDXL unfortunately
« Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 11:18:17 AM by blo0d »

Offline rostheferret

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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 11:55:41 AM »
BDXL is new technology and of course expensive. You think the players are expensive? You think the discs are gonna be any cheaper?

I picked up a Blu-Ray burner about 9 months ago for ~$100, but for storage surely a HDD is better? Easier to back up, smaller (physically), cheaper, quicker, etc, etc. I'm not entirely sure what you're asking for; why would you want to replace your expensive collection with a few written disks and a hard drive? Most people tend to go the other way :P

Offline Freedom Kira

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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2011, 01:48:59 PM »
Note that disc media tends to degrade over time. After a couple years on the shelf, some DVDs become unreadable. This is typically not a problem with hard drives unless you expose them to fluctuating magnetic fields fairly frequently. I love alliteration.

Anyway, I don't quite understand why you would prefer to use discs to store your media when hard drives provide more reliable storage (both the writing process and keeping long-term integrity), more storage (a 2TB 3.5" external HDD costs about $120 now, and a 1TB 2.5" costs about the same) for less money per gigabyte. Not to mention the external HDD doesn't need a burner, which costs even more money, easily more than a 2TB drive.

The main disadvantages would be single point of failure, and lack of "physical feel," for lack of a better term. Single point of failure means that if your drive dies, everything is lost, instead of just losing what's on one disc when it fails. This is why people keep backups of data. By "physical feel" I mean you don't get to flip through stuff with your hands, and instead have to click through folders/directories, but I don't think this bothers most people.

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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 03:03:29 PM »
Note that disc media tends to degrade over time. After a couple years on the shelf, some DVDs become unreadable.

My disks from the mid 1990s still work.


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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 04:26:57 PM »
Note that disc media tends to degrade over time. After a couple years on the shelf, some DVDs become unreadable. This is typically not a problem with hard drives unless you expose them to fluctuating magnetic fields fairly frequently. I love alliteration.
Depends on the media you used. Discs made by MCC or Taiyo Yuden produce good burns and lasts longer than others
Anyway, I don't quite understand why you would prefer to use discs to store your media when hard drives provide more reliable storage (both the writing process and keeping long-term integrity), more storage (a 2TB 3.5" external HDD costs about $120 now, and a 1TB 2.5" costs about the same) for less money per gigabyte. Not to mention the external HDD doesn't need a burner, which costs even more money, easily more than a 2TB drive.

The main disadvantages would be single point of failure, and lack of "physical feel," for lack of a better term. Single point of failure means that if your drive dies, everything is lost, instead of just losing what's on one disc when it fails. This is why people keep backups of data. By "physical feel" I mean you don't get to flip through stuff with your hands, and instead have to click through folders/directories, but I don't think this bothers most people.
discs are easier to pass around; you can share your files with friends without worrying if he's handing your hard disk carefully.

I do suggest that the OP buy a harddrive instead. blurays are not worth using for storage. The data layer of blurays are too close to the surface, scratches can ruin the data easily.

This is what I do for stuff I do not access frequently:
1. buy a big internal drive
2. fill it up (also keep a list of the contents of that drive)
3. hide the drive in a closet away from the violent place called My Desktop


Offline Tihomir

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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 04:54:08 PM »
I 8 HDD's and about 300+ DVD's with various anime and stuff.
I just wish they could take less space physically , less time to clean.
Well in the end I'll just have to decide what to buy.

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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 06:25:05 PM »
Depends on the media you used. Discs made by MCC or Taiyo Yuden produce good burns and lasts longer than others

Definitely. I'm no expert in the field myself.

discs are easier to pass around; you can share your files with friends without worrying if he's handing your hard disk carefully.

For that you have the option of keeping a spindle of blank DVDs to burn for sharing stuff if you're worried. You can get 100 for $25 or so. And unlike using DVDs to store stuff, using them to share would make the number of discs decrease over time, not increase.

Alternatively, for reusability, just buy an 8GB USB stick. They're less than $20 these days. If data gets corrupted, just reformat it.

I 8 HDD's and about 300+ DVD's with various anime and stuff.
I just wish they could take less space physically , less time to clean.
Well in the end I'll just have to decide what to buy.

If you have extra money to throw around, perhaps try investing in a NAS/server unit. There are 3TB drives available now - 8 of them together in RAID 5 or 6 would yield 21 or 18TB respectively. Dump them in a nice compact case and you're good to go. Data security with RAID, ease of access, speed, it's all there. It'd probably even take up less physical space than 300 DVDs and 8 external drives. But back to the first line - you'll need some extra money lying around. Getting 8 3TB drives would cost you around $2000. Switch to 2TB, though, and you're closer to $1000.

Offline Tihomir

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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 06:30:18 PM »
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If you have extra money to throw around, perhaps try investing in a NAS/server unit. There are 3TB drives available now - 8 of them together in RAID 5 or 6 would yield 21 or 18TB respectively. Dump them in a nice compact case and you're good to go. Data security with RAID, ease of access, speed, it's all there. It'd probably even take up less physical space than 300 DVDs and 8 external drives. But back to the first line - you'll need some extra money lying around. Getting 8 3TB drives would cost you around $2000. Switch to 2TB, though, and you're closer to $1000.

Now for that i will need to sell some organs.

Offline Freedom Kira

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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2011, 06:36:37 PM »
Guess it depends where you live and what kind of work you do. Just working a month will get me enough for the 8x3TB drive server.

But anyway, you say you already have 8 external hard drives and 300 burned DVDs. I wouldn't be surprised if you've already spent over $1000 on just that. Not that you'll be able to get much of that amount back if you sell them, of course.

Offline Tihomir

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Re: Blue Ray RW/HD DVD-ROM
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 06:40:33 PM »
Guess it depends where you live and what kind of work you do. Just working a month will get me enough for the 8x3TB drive server.

But anyway, you say you already have 8 external hard drives and 300 burned DVDs. I wouldn't be surprised if you've already spent over $1000 on just that. Not that you'll be able to get much of that amount back if you sell them, of course.

Well those DVD's accumulated in several years, and I don't work I'm a student at university that alone costs me a lot.So i can't afford that.
Guess ill pile up some Blue Ray discs or external HDD's for now.