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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2011, 11:16:57 AM »
You know, I wonder how it managed to blow up during testing.
It really didn't blow, all it did was smoke.
And they really went overboard with the voltage, that plus the usage of old drivers which lacked appropriate overcurrent protections for the 590, resulted in a smoking 590.
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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2011, 11:30:07 AM »
They are cutting it too close. Seriously, top end card that can't over clock? Why even cheap out on VRM? It's 700 dollars for deity's sake.
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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2011, 12:24:16 PM »
The card isnt worth the price. The performance you get out of one card isnt what most people are looking for. People who have smaller cases and wants to have 3D surround vision should get this card. If you are looking for a card to play on a single monitor with highest settings possible a 570 is more then enough to get the job done. Most people don't have 30" monitors that support resolution 2560x1440 either.

Im going to be waiting for the 600 series before I get another video card.

I think going for top-end graphics cards is pointless. It depends on your goals, I guess.

Imo, have three types of mindsets:

1. People for who view not having the very best performance as a major hit to the size of their ego... or just have too much money to give a crap (or both). Thus, sinking inordinate amounts of money into it is fine... These are your so-called "enthusiasts" for whom that card is made. These enthusiasts don't even have to have that much knowledge of computer parts. They can either have a lot of zeal or a lot of money, or both.

2. People who just want to get the best price-performance ratio; ie, aiming to simply play most games with reasonable graphical/sound/etc enjoyment... not really aiming to blow anyone away, etc. I'm in this camp. We don't exactly like the fact that we're completely blown away by the people in group 1 (no, there's definitely some jelly), but we have too much restraint over our budget to just splurge like that. The main goal is to play as much as you can as well as you can within reasonable bounds. There's a pretty large middle area here. It's pretty subjective, too.

3. People who lack knowledge and just upgrade whenever they realize that they can't do something they want to (ie, their system is so old they can't even  at all, or maybe their friends are doing it, etc. I would think that this is actually the largest camp, because these people are normal. They don't even know what the hell's inside of most computers they buy. "A Dell is good, miright?" <- That exasperated sigh that just escaped your mouth is wasted, by the way.

The boundaries between the three groups are kinda blurry. Hard to say when a person is one thing or the other; could be one thing one moment, another the next. Lots of variables.

... The better question is why I'm randomly deciding to state this obvious observation in this topic.

Oh well.

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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2011, 05:52:42 PM »
You forgot one other type, or maybe a subset of #2 - people who want their computer to last as long as possible. I bought the HD2900XT (the best of AMD/ATI at the time) and a motherboard with two CPU sockets so that I would not need to upgrade my PC soon. 3 years later it still runs new games well, I still do not need to change the motherboard or upgrade the CPUs. When the time comes for a big upgrade, I'll try to get very good parts again.
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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2011, 08:38:57 PM »
I would honestly recommend purchasing either the GTX 590 or the ATI (or AMD?) 6990 for those that are considering of purchasing one or two GTX 580 or ATI 6850 (I think?). You dump 200 dollars more and you get yourself two GPU's in one card. The minimum power says 700 so that should be valuable enough. It feels like it needs a 750 PSU to run one of those beasts IMO.


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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2011, 01:29:02 AM »
You know, I wonder how it managed to blow up during testing.

Burning... metal... smells... sooo... GOOOD.

Anything with an electrical circuit can theoretically blow up. Throw too much of a current into a circuit or wire, and watch in AWE.

Case in point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZDMrHY23JM&feature=related

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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2011, 02:11:34 AM »
People for who view not having the very best performance as a major hit to the size of their ego... or just have too much money to give a crap (or both). Thus, sinking inordinate amounts of money into it is fine... These are your so-called "enthusiasts" for whom that card is made. These enthusiasts don't even have to have that much knowledge of computer parts. They can either have a lot of zeal or a lot of money, or both.

There are a good amount of those 'people' who do have knowledge what they're doing.  I know how some people manage to keep getting the bleeding edge hardware is to just sell your components before they lose a large amount of value and just buy the next greatest set of components.

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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2011, 02:15:19 AM »
It really didn't blow, all it did was smoke.
And they really went overboard with the voltage, that plus the usage of old drivers which lacked appropriate overcurrent protections for the 590, resulted in a smoking 590.
Oh, derp. Well now I feel like a 'tard, though that does make sense.

Anything with an electrical circuit can theoretically blow up. Throw too much of a current into a circuit or wire, and watch in AWE.
I know this, I like to think I've learned a thing or two in my E&M classes. :P

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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2011, 02:14:54 PM »
You know, I wonder how it managed to blow up during testing.
It was the voltage regulator modules that got fried from too current. Now if it was the caps, then you'd have some nice popping sounds ;D

What puzzles me is that nvidia used the vrms they used. Can't they use better ones? It's known that they will have issues with the vrms, even amd knows that and designed the 6990 with that in mind. I guess they can't sell it at that price if they picked better vrms.
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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2011, 10:36:54 PM »
I've not bought graphics card in a while, how much better would this be than SLI 280GTX?  Those cards have been serving me well for a while


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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2011, 07:49:12 AM »
Well it's definitely a step forward from 2 x 280s.
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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2011, 08:23:35 PM »
dual gpu cards have thus far been touch and go on support for things and while their performance is unmatched in single cards drivers and support just have a tendency to be a burden with these cards

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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2011, 03:15:38 AM »
nvidia claimed the 590 is the world's fastest card.

And then I saw this ad:

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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2011, 08:59:14 AM »
nvidia claimed the 590 is the world's fastest card.

And then I saw this ad:

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I LOLed
nVidia really shot itself in the foot with that claim.
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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2011, 03:19:24 PM »
nvidia is technically going backwards, something for a good example gt240 being faster than gt440. they're ignoring the lower end products while tackling the high end and fails in one go. the only thing that made sense is their GTX 560 Ti and GTX 580, GTX 550 Ti and GTX 570 were almost a fail product, the GTX 550's price made it undesirable because you could get a GTX 460 for about 20-30$ more and get marginally better fps. the GTX 560 Ti made the GTX 570 a little undesirable, because the GTX 560 Ti can pretty much handle your modern games in med-to-high settings, if you're an enthusiast everyone knows you`ll need a GTX 580  ::) . this is excluding ATI's products, which dominates mid and low end products.

imho, nvidia should be doing like 400series 50% faster than 200series, 500series 25% faster than 400series OR 500series as fast as 400series but 50% less power consumption. hence the so called "improvements" and they should maintain the original price, like gts 450 price = gtx 550 price but gtx 550 being faster, would make more sense right?

my scale : (you`re better off with onboard if you plan anything lower)<HD5450<GT240<HD5570<HD5750<HD5770<GTS 450<HD6850<GTX 560 Ti<HD6950(gamble for a HD6970 FTW!){Tie}GTX 580
note: reason why HD6950 tied with GTX 580 is because you could gamble the HD6950 to get a HD6970 for half of GTX 580's price.

Edit: which card would be the most effective on most modern games with 1920x1080 resolution and settings on max and FPS doesnt go below 25? i vote for either GTX 560 Ti or HD6850 =D
Edit2: off topic: whats the equivalent of i3 2100 on amd's end? i`m trying to find a decent equal for a cheaper solution >,>
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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2011, 05:02:14 PM »
In most cases 2x 470 in sli out performs most cards in the 500 series for less then the price of those cards

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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2011, 08:03:48 PM »
In most cases 2x 470 in sli out performs most cards in the 500 series for less then the price of those cards
Not 2x GTX 560's. I was about to get the 470's until I did more research and found that the GTX 560 brings more out of the box. It's also cheaper.


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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2011, 03:54:07 AM »
They need to learn to use smaller parts, not bigger cards. >_>...

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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2011, 08:44:57 AM »
They need to learn to use smaller parts, not bigger cards. >_>...
Go look up Palit's GTX460, that's what I'm running, you'll be amazed by the size.
Even their 560's size is bad ass.
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Re: GTX 590 series announced by nVidia
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2011, 12:35:40 PM »
not to mention palit is one of the cheapest manufacturer that you can actually buy from =D

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