Is water-cooled laptops possible? (and other cooling techniques)

[Tatsujin]

You could use the keyboard and mouse from one of those first generation mac's and still do well with WoW 

That suitcase computer is pretty damn funny, good for you on making that!  Neat to see what people use these days as computer cases 

That mouse right there is the best MMO mouse. I wouldn't be where I am right now without that mouse. Everything is literally keybinded and much easier. Previously I had things keybinded but they were harder to hit with shifting/alting/ctrling and all that crap. Considering my class as a Warrior for PvP and PvE, I use a lot of macros and I use all my abilities when needed in situations for both PvE and PvP.

[CRxTRDUDE]

Yeah, well from what I was thinking, I have plans (not really doing it, just some kind of crazy plan when I got a lot of money) to convert the lappy into a portable desktop.... Mainly because I don't even bring the damn thing (I might misplace it somewhere and my dad would be pissed at that)...

@Kureshii
I know bout heatsinks and all that. It's just a possibility my point here. Besides, I kinda fancy a lot of things. Just wanna have a distractive activity for summer... Besides, I want to make other people bring their opinion. 

[kitamesume]

Oh it is possible to fit a water cooling system in your laptop, it's just that after the modification your laptop will look like a small suitcase  

This is basically what it looks like after putting in only a "fake" watercooling kit (Corsair H50):



Entire worklog: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=260157

this seriously made my day, i`m sooo gonna make one of that =D with an ultra falt 18" monitor that aoc just made i could practically fit a whole rig in a small suitcase =P

AOC e943Fw

[zat0x91]

I have the Razer keyboard your using and the Razer Naga mouse your using. Amazing for WoW players. <3

I didn't build that, lol.

Not trying to be a dick, but that keyboard is by far the worst I've used, considering how much I paid for it at the time.  I replaced it with a Topre Realforce 103UB, which can probably be considered to be one of the best mechanical keyboards that you can buy.  Even my buddy who's in vodka came over to visit (used to be in our guild; he came over to watch anime with another friend) and said it's much better than his G15.

My friend had that mouse and it died after a few months, plus I found the side buttons to be way to small to press; then again I have large thumbs.  Overall, I'd be just be content with shift and ctrl modifiers.

[Micharus]

I have the Razer keyboard your using and the Razer Naga mouse your using. Amazing for WoW players. <3

I didn't build that, lol.

Not trying to be a dick, but that keyboard is by far the worst I've used, considering how much I paid for it at the time.  I replaced it with a Topre Realforce 103UB, which can probably be considered to be one of the best mechanical keyboards that you can buy.  Even my buddy who's in vodka came over to visit (used to be in our guild; he came over to watch anime with another friend) and said it's much better than his G15.

My friend had that mouse and it died after a few months, plus I found the side buttons to be way to small to press; then again I have large thumbs.  Overall, I'd be just be content with shift and ctrl modifiers.

Personally, when it comes to keyboards, it seems I've always had some sort of 'generic' one.

Right now it's a plain old garden variety Microsoft keyboard, the one with the internet buttons across the top.

As for my mouse, it's a "Razer DeathAdder" a pretty nice bit of gear, no multi function buttons, but it does have scalable 'on the fly' adjustment of how fast your cursor zooms across the screen. No more mucking about in various windows to change that, just press a button on the side and spin the mouse wheel.

[CRxTRDUDE]

Well, for me, any keyboard will do, as long as the escape button works...

What if... You combine both water-cooling and heat-sinks, bad or good combination?

[zat0x91]

Well, for me, any keyboard will do, as long as the escape button works...

What if... You combine both water-cooling and heat-sinks, bad or good combination?

Try using any mechanical keyboard, you'll really never want to go back to a standard keyboard; I'd still rather pick an ancient Model M over a gimmicky, rubber dome, gaming keyboard any day.

A waterblock is essentially a heatsink; it just requires liquid to be flown in it (inlet and outlet).    Unless you actually mean to combine an aircooling heatsink with a waterblock, which has been attempted somewhere on XS, but it was shown that performance wasn't great.

[blubart]

ontopic:
a water cooled laptop is probably as useful as a plutonium powered car - it doesn't really matter if it's possible as it is just stupid.

the water in a water cooled pc doesn't actually remove the heat from the system - it just offsets it from the components so you have a bigger surface to blow the heat in the surrounding. if the system is so small (laptop) that you can neither fit a good amount of transfer fluid in a reasonable distance from the components nor a huge heat dissipating surface for said fluid, the water cooling is just as effective as the air cooling, because it's stuck with whatever you use to get the heat of the actual notebook (the surface or back to square one: a fan).

offtopic:
imo there is no better keyboard than the microsoft natural keyboard elite:

i've mine for over ten years now, and in case it should break i would buy the exact same model (hard to get by now, because it went out of production around '99)

[CRxTRDUDE]

Not that I'm stupid. I'm just curious. I don't care if it's not the best way to cool, it's just the thought of something that might be implemented that counted and not the pure thought of it. And yes, Admin ( i call people who's part of the staff as admins too... 'cuz they have the rights on doing anything... ), I know the risks and I take it. But I'm not stupid or dumb in other words... I know that heatsinks and cooling fans (which I already have in my lappy for the past 3 years and it served it's purpose well) are the best for cooling. Simple enough to say .

Being forward, IMOWSB though, you cant stop any electrical devices to heat up and if you can it's rendered as useless 'cuz any form of energy will eventually become heat, even in every transfer to mechanical and light energy... 

But then I'm thankful that you posted too 

Off-topic:
Nice keyboard... Saw one before. I can't remember where...

@zat0x91: Well, I guess it's not possible then.... Thanks.

[blubart]

i think you misunderstood - i never called or meant to call you stupid - i only said that the concept of watercooling a laptop isn't feasible, thus pondering over it's possibility is pointless.

the rest of your post i don't quite understand - maybe you could reword it. in any case there is no such rule that any form of energy will eventually become heat.

[CRxTRDUDE]

actually, it's the law of conservation... energy can neither be created (produced) nor destroyed by itself. It can only be transformed. remember?

Yeah. It's not feasible but that doesn't mean that it cant be done. You can even make a new comp from it. The point is, it's aesthetic aspect. You can do anything you want with an object and even push it to weird possibilities.

Besides I'm going into tis situation where you have a busted heatsink and you got a lot of rubber tubing and you know how to do this... then this can be in a worst case scenario use.

If that's the case then you can lock this thread and consider this scrapped.   

My dad's angry and he want to throw the comp. Nyt 

[blubart]

actually, it's the law of conservation... energy can neither be created (produced) nor destroyed by itself. It can only be transformed. remember?

i certainly do remember the law of energy conservation but that doesn't mean in the slightest that every form of energy will become heat. the transformation process is a two way street. i can think of numerous ways to convert heat into other forms of energy.

the point is that possibility in the technical sense does not imply possibility in the beneficial sense.
just like the fusion of hydrogen is theoretically and practically possible it's impossible (at the moment) to power a energy plant with it (because the process implemented is using more energy than it creates and/or is harness-able).

[kitamesume]

you can actually create energy or destroy it, its simple, just use...

(click to show/hide)

MAGIC!

ok jokes aside.

heatpipes would do you better than using watercooling on a laptop, why? heatpipes are compact, less dangerous, more practical and could transfer more heat depending on what setting you'll use it on.

if you actually can mod heatpipes, you're better off making a wicked air cooled heatsink.

[kureshii]

If you're just doing it for the aesthetic aspect and not for practical reasons, then it's no less impossible than water-cooling a desktop CPU + motherboard.

Heck, you'd be better off trying to fit a water-cooled mini-ITX system into something that can pass for 'laptop' form factor (which seems to be really loosely defined judging by images in this thread).

[NaRu]

If you want to put that much effort on water cooling your laptop you might as well just buy a desktop because the size of the laptop wouldnt be much smaller the a mid tower case

[kitamesume]

more like you`d wanna buy two seperate rigs, a decent low power laptop so it wouldnt overheat and a decent power desktop that could do anything you throw at it except predicting futures and such.
i just dont get why they want to play on laptops, they're meant to be portable, using a monster processor and gpu on it is too taxing to keep it portable, it`ll mostly last 1-2hours on battery imho.

[Natheria]

You could use the keyboard and mouse from one of those first generation mac's and still do well with WoW 

That suitcase computer is pretty damn funny, good for you on making that!  Neat to see what people use these days as computer cases 

That mouse right there is the best MMO mouse. I wouldn't be where I am right now without that mouse. Everything is literally keybinded and much easier. Previously I had things keybinded but they were harder to hit with shifting/alting/ctrling and all that crap. Considering my class as a Warrior for PvP and PvE, I use a lot of macros and I use all my abilities when needed in situations for both PvE and PvP.

Everything is literally keybinded

keybinded

[CRxTRDUDE]

I infact posted last that I don't really want to bring that lappy everywhere.

Besides what I really needed was an eBook reader and a "personal" computer not a lappy.

I don't want to really share stuff with my dad, he always get around of a lot of things. He (instead of doing relevant stuff like AutoCAD 'cuz that's what he supposes to do there) plays Red Alert 2 skirmishes. Hehe... That's why I would consider cooling techniques 'cuz I wanted the laptop to become my second PC for myself (cuz' from where I'm situated, I'm in the temperate country where overheating laptops are a pain in the ass)and so that I can do my VNs and comics without any disturbancies from my dad. 

But anyways It's nice that I bought this thread up!

[kitamesume]

Oh it is possible to fit a water cooling system in your laptop, it's just that after the modification your laptop will look like a small suitcase  

This is basically what it looks like after putting in only a "fake" watercooling kit (Corsair H50):



Entire worklog: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=260157

you can atually make this portable, with these following items:
i3-2100T SNB - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116394&Tpk=i3%202100T
ITX MB - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128484&cm_re=LGA_1155_ITX-_-13-128-484-_-Product
GT 240 DDR3 Low Profile - http://www.galaxytech.com/en/productview.aspx?id=231
PicoPSU - http://www.amazon.com/M3-ATX-output-Robust-Intelligent-Automotive/dp/B003DXV9O2/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1302601173&sr=8-9
Laptop Batteries - http://www.amazon.com/8800mAh-Capacity-HSTNN-IB72-Pavilion-Presario/dp/B002CVHURQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1302601396&sr=8-7

buy two of the batteries and run them in series, when you charge it to full you`d get 22volts, the picopsu can handle 6v-24v so you wont have much trouble when the batteries are running low.
tho when charging the batteries, you need to take them out and charge them individually, yea hassle but its fun, for plugging your mobile desktop into a wall outlet, you need to disconnect the batteries too and plug anything that can supply a DC 6v-24v with enough wattage, maybe a laptop brick with 150W should be enough =D

you got your self a low power, low profile, compact rig that can be fitted into a small case