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Freedom Kira:

--- Quote from: Honemi on October 18, 2013, 02:10:23 AM ---Too bad their software is mediocre and their hardware, with few exceptions, crap.

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Their software is fine, just the interface sucks (not because the interface itself is bad, but because it doesn't scale to all the systems that Microsoft so desperately wants it to; rather, it's good on some systems (phone/tablet) and awful on others(desktops)). As for hardware, can't comment on that.


--- Quote from: zherok on October 18, 2013, 03:27:39 AM ---One thing I really hate about Windows 8 is its attitude of not telling you what it's doing or how far along a task is. During the setup process, after the restart, there's a phase where it just says "just setting up a few more things" and the little swirly cursor. It tends to do this with all updates, either not telling you the process it's working on or making the install entirely arbitrary (it likes to install "33%" of an update, restart, and install the other "66%". The numbers clearly have no real value in terms of what it's actually doing.)

I liked Windows 7 telling you how many updates were left to install, that sorta thing. It's minor, the computer is still doing the same stuff, but humans like to know what's going on, even if they aren't influencing it. Designing a UI so that the computer doesn't appear to be doing something is not really an admirable design trait.

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It depends. The average Joe usually doesn't give a shit about the nitty-gritty details that we of the BakaBT forums generally care about. Apple and its fanboys have proven that long ago.

Bob2004:

--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on October 18, 2013, 04:00:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: Honemi on October 18, 2013, 02:10:23 AM ---Too bad their software is mediocre and their hardware, with few exceptions, crap.

--- End quote ---

Their software is fine, just the interface sucks (not because the interface itself is bad, but because it doesn't scale to all the systems that Microsoft so desperately wants it to; rather, it's good on some systems (phone/tablet) and awful on others(desktops)). As for hardware, can't comment on that.


--- Quote from: zherok on October 18, 2013, 03:27:39 AM ---One thing I really hate about Windows 8 is its attitude of not telling you what it's doing or how far along a task is. During the setup process, after the restart, there's a phase where it just says "just setting up a few more things" and the little swirly cursor. It tends to do this with all updates, either not telling you the process it's working on or making the install entirely arbitrary (it likes to install "33%" of an update, restart, and install the other "66%". The numbers clearly have no real value in terms of what it's actually doing.)

I liked Windows 7 telling you how many updates were left to install, that sorta thing. It's minor, the computer is still doing the same stuff, but humans like to know what's going on, even if they aren't influencing it. Designing a UI so that the computer doesn't appear to be doing something is not really an admirable design trait.

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It depends. The average Joe usually doesn't give a shit about the nitty-gritty details that we of the BakaBT forums generally care about. Apple and its fanboys have proven that long ago.

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But basically everyone likes to know whether or not the updates they're installing will be done in a few seconds, or will take long enough that they may as well go off, make a cup of tea, and do something else for a while. And going beyond that, and saying which stage of the process it is currently on is incredibly useful for troubleshooting purposes.

kitamesume:
they should just bring back the progress log.

JoonasTo:
After ten hours of agonisingly slow download I finally got it.
Managed to install it to have it break my graphics drivers completely.

On the top side, it managed to actually clean itself and free me 10 GB of diskspace, which on an SSD, is always nice.

Now if I can only figure out how to get rid of this fucking live signin...

Funnily after everything sorted out is seems that the win 8.1 driver for the graphics is significantly better in terms of desktop image sharpness. How odd.

kitamesume:
thats because 8.1 had tweaked it's core files, just by the difference of the system size should give you a hint.
its lean and very efficient, which means they might've tweaked the drivers as well since those are bloated as fuck.

edit: speaking of a tweaked system, if i remember correctly 8.1 had better power management as well, battery life on laptops were boosted by some noticeable margin.

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