Author Topic: Windows 8 (Read 19251 times)

kitamesume · « **Reply #260 on:** October 19, 2013, 04:04:10 PM »

Quote from: Tatsujin on October 19, 2013, 03:37:51 PM

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So what's the word on 8.1, is it all it was hyped up to be?
If you've avoided using the Start Screen, I couldn't really tell you the difference. Other than your computer is now specifically referred to as "This Computer," in case you forgot what you named it.
Yeah. I'm not seeing any particular difference. I guess if I uninstalled Classic Shell, I might. Wait, it's smaller than Windows 8 if that counts for anything.
There's better improvements than 8.0. Faster, better search, more customization, Start Button (duh) and additional boot sets. Not sure if I want to take the risk with with 8.1. I really want the customizations and boot options. The search isn't as smart as Windows 7 so maybe 8.1 fixes those issues?

vmbox if you dont want any risks, you can test which drivers to install and what effects it has, also which driver to install first.

edit: about the search, on what basis is it not smart? it takes longer? if thats the case then check if indexing is enabled.

Tatsujin · « **Reply #261 on:** October 19, 2013, 04:16:43 PM »

Quote from: kitamesume on October 19, 2013, 04:04:10 PM

Quote from: Tatsujin on October 19, 2013, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: Honemi on October 19, 2013, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: zherok on October 19, 2013, 03:29:13 PM
Quote from: Tiffanys on October 19, 2013, 10:16:54 AM
So what's the word on 8.1, is it all it was hyped up to be?
If you've avoided using the Start Screen, I couldn't really tell you the difference. Other than your computer is now specifically referred to as "This Computer," in case you forgot what you named it.
Yeah. I'm not seeing any particular difference. I guess if I uninstalled Classic Shell, I might. Wait, it's smaller than Windows 8 if that counts for anything.
There's better improvements than 8.0. Faster, better search, more customization, Start Button (duh) and additional boot sets. Not sure if I want to take the risk with with 8.1. I really want the customizations and boot options. The search isn't as smart as Windows 7 so maybe 8.1 fixes those issues?
vmbox if you dont want any risks, you can test which drivers to install and what effects it has, also which driver to install first.

edit: about the search, on what basis is it not smart? it takes longer? if thats the case then check if indexing is enabled.

When I search for something that I know it's there, it shows me 0 return. So right now I think it's classic shells maybe? I mean I see some of the options of Classic Shells on there but what does it have to do with Windows search function? This isn't a one time thing, this is like an everyday thing.

kitamesume · « **Reply #262 on:** October 19, 2013, 04:23:52 PM »

its possibly because the search function is restricted to one particular location, e.g. folder1 or drive:C for example.

Tatsujin · « **Reply #263 on:** October 19, 2013, 04:35:23 PM »

Quote from: kitamesume on October 19, 2013, 04:23:52 PM

its possibly because the search function is restricted to one particular location, e.g. folder1 or drive:C for example.

Not sure, I just tried it on Images section and it works nicely. But some sections it doesn't work at all. Anyways, ... I'm gonna go and update this thing. I want 8.1.

zherok · « **Reply #264 on:** October 19, 2013, 11:43:36 PM »

8.1 uses Bing to search, just to let you know. Internet searches are supposed to be neat looking but impractical. Mine don't work at all for some reason. System searches seem to be unable to find any programs that aren't already part of the start menu system, while the old search could. Kinda useless in my view.

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #265 on:** October 20, 2013, 12:14:39 AM »

lol Bing

vuzedome · « **Reply #266 on:** October 20, 2013, 02:56:41 PM »

So..... I've got this nifty ultrabook with Windows 8.
Wow.... first time using it and I am truely lost.

kitamesume · « **Reply #267 on:** October 20, 2013, 03:04:04 PM »

upgrade to 8.1 if you feel like it, its about half a step back to being win7.

JoonasTo · « **Reply #268 on:** October 20, 2013, 03:14:33 PM »

Except it's about five times faster than win 7

Honemi · « **Reply #269 on:** October 20, 2013, 03:21:50 PM »

Also try using Classic Shell. It'll help you ease on into Windows 8 if you're having trouble adjusting to the Metro user interface.

megido-rev.M · « **Reply #270 on:** October 21, 2013, 12:23:39 AM »

Windows 8 apps might sync and run on Xbox One, Dell website claims

kitamesume · « **Reply #271 on:** October 30, 2013, 05:56:11 AM »

has anyone tried running windows 8.1 without activating it?
mine so far there isn't anything annoying other than this obvious watermark on the lower right corner.
plus there isn't any features disabled yet.

zherok · « **Reply #272 on:** October 30, 2013, 01:22:03 PM »

Might force you to do it eventually. That'd be kinda shitty to run into.

I'm not even sure if I saw an option to not activate it. It really wanted me to use a Microsoft account to log into my own computer...

kitamesume · « **Reply #273 on:** October 30, 2013, 02:06:19 PM »

once gates get kicked out of microsoft i bet they'd turn windows into a subscription based OS, not cool.

i hope all apps gets 100% compatibility with linux or something, so we could just f*ck windows all together.

AceHigh · « **Reply #274 on:** October 30, 2013, 02:30:19 PM »

Got a notebook today, the windows 8 is making me tear my eyeballs out. Haven't been this frustrated since Windows ME. I just have to look into drivers and see if I can install win7 on it instead.

FUCK, FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!! I need fucking cognac to calm down. Piece of fucking shit...

zherok · « **Reply #275 on:** October 30, 2013, 02:46:51 PM »

Quote from: kitamesume on October 30, 2013, 02:06:19 PM

once gates get kicked out of microsoft i bet they'd turn windows into a subscription based OS, not cool.

i hope all apps gets 100% compatibility with linux or something, so we could just f*ck windows all together.

I don't think they have the sort of clout where they could successfully push out an OS that specifically blocks what you want to play. There's RT, but... who uses that? Poor suckers who bought the entry level Surface? Even proponents of the Surface recommend the full version Pro model.

Windows' success relies on existing entrenchment. And there's huge resistance already to change. People clung to XP for dear life. Microsoft can't force their users to upgrade, and the moment their mainline OS no longer has the advantage of running the software you want to use, why would anyone prefer it over the alternatives? Shit, it's not even just a choice between Apple and Linux then, but sticking with the previous versions just like they did XP.

Gaben worries about a future Windows like this, but Steam isn't exactly a neutral party here, he's probably more worried about the Windows Store appearing to be the "default" gateway for digital software purchases. Even if it is though it's not like anyone really uses it.

Quote from: AceHigh on October 30, 2013, 02:30:19 PM

Got a notebook today, the windows 8 is making me tear my eyeballs out. Haven't been this frustrated since Windows ME. I just have to look into drivers and see if I can install win7 on it instead.

Get a start menu replacement, seriously. Windows 8 is just a more efficient Windows 7 for me. I never see Metro unless I specifically go out of my way to find it.

kitamesume · « **Reply #276 on:** October 30, 2013, 03:23:18 PM »

i used shell to tone this harsh change for me, i'm pretty content with the changes, and very satisfied with the performance gain.

the only disappointment i have were a few of the app changes, how the shitty dull boarder looks(i miss the glassy look already).
and some of the changes in taskmanager was very irritating(wtf!? although i liked a few of the new features).

on the other hand, using ubuntu for the first time was a worse experience than going with win8, it was like walking in a maze of cacti while blind-folded, LOL.
thankfully i had a fully documented guide on how to not break linux.

AceHigh · « **Reply #277 on:** October 30, 2013, 03:39:23 PM »

Quote from: zherok on October 30, 2013, 02:46:51 PM

Get a start menu replacement, seriously. Windows 8 is just a more efficient Windows 7 for me. I never see Metro unless I specifically go out of my way to find it.

The problem is to get to that point when this piece of shit keeps updating, works slowly as shit, while I uninstall bundle crap as well.

Know the first thing I do when I work with newly installed Win7? Click Start->type UAC in search field->User control window pops up-> I disable it.
Well fuck me twice over, there was an unnessessary huge amount of guesswork to figure out how to get there without any start tab or search function. NOTHING is intuitive in this piece of crap OS that is not yet even Win8.1

I seriously want to smash a brand new notebook to pieces.

zherok · « **Reply #278 on:** October 30, 2013, 03:42:31 PM »

There's a program that adds the glass look back to Win8. It's nagware unless you donate though (shows a popup on startup.)

Used it for a bit before it broke in 8.1 (beta version in testing last I checked), but a friend pointed out to me that UXStyle had been updated for Win8. So I just use themes now instead. Make sure you use a recent one if you've updated to 8.1, otherwise some of your UI will be broken.

I agree the mandatory flat look by default is a bit of a turnoff. The desktop just looks bland, and their application on the full screen "Metro" (or whatever the fuck they actually call it now) style is usually pretty but less than functional. Not that I seem to be able to get some of them to work at all (you're supposed to be able to get a search collage when you end up looking something up, but I can never seem to be able to get it to complete a search.)

Quote from: AceHigh on October 30, 2013, 03:39:23 PM

The problem is to get to that point when this piece of shit keeps updating, works slowly as shit, while I uninstall bundle crap as well.

I've been lucky enough to be using a desktop that came shipped with a very minimal amount of "extra" software, and have just been upgrading it since then. Laptops definitely tend to suck though.

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Know the first thing I do when I work with newly installed Win7? Click Start->type UAC in search field->User control window pops up-> I disable it.
Well fuck me twice over, there was an unnessessary huge amount of guesswork to figure out how to get there without any start tab or search function. NOTHING is intuitive in this piece of crap OS that is not yet even Win8.1

I seriously want to smash a brand new notebook to pieces.

It's in User Accounts in the Control Panel (UAC is User Account Control after all.)

One difference though, you can disable all the prompts from the slider in Windows 8, but you're not entirely disabling UAC. You have to do some command line or registry stuff to do that. And in doing so you break certain features (the Windows Store will not work with it disabled, IIRC, may have other effects too.) This wouldn't normally be an issue, but for example, updating to Windows 8.1 required me to use said Windows Store to download it.

Personally I just drop it down to the bottom and it works more or less as it would disabling it entirely.

kitamesume · « **Reply #279 on:** October 30, 2013, 03:51:07 PM »

good idea, i just started downloading abisso, hopefully it doesn't break anything.