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Windows 8
zherok:
--- Quote from: kitamesume on October 30, 2013, 02:06:19 PM ---once gates get kicked out of microsoft i bet they'd turn windows into a subscription based OS, not cool.
i hope all apps gets 100% compatibility with linux or something, so we could just f*ck windows all together.
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I don't think they have the sort of clout where they could successfully push out an OS that specifically blocks what you want to play. There's RT, but... who uses that? Poor suckers who bought the entry level Surface? Even proponents of the Surface recommend the full version Pro model.
Windows' success relies on existing entrenchment. And there's huge resistance already to change. People clung to XP for dear life. Microsoft can't force their users to upgrade, and the moment their mainline OS no longer has the advantage of running the software you want to use, why would anyone prefer it over the alternatives? Shit, it's not even just a choice between Apple and Linux then, but sticking with the previous versions just like they did XP.
Gaben worries about a future Windows like this, but Steam isn't exactly a neutral party here, he's probably more worried about the Windows Store appearing to be the "default" gateway for digital software purchases. Even if it is though it's not like anyone really uses it.
--- Quote from: AceHigh on October 30, 2013, 02:30:19 PM ---Got a notebook today, the windows 8 is making me tear my eyeballs out. Haven't been this frustrated since Windows ME. I just have to look into drivers and see if I can install win7 on it instead.
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Get a start menu replacement, seriously. Windows 8 is just a more efficient Windows 7 for me. I never see Metro unless I specifically go out of my way to find it.
kitamesume:
i used shell to tone this harsh change for me, i'm pretty content with the changes, and very satisfied with the performance gain.
the only disappointment i have were a few of the app changes, how the shitty dull boarder looks(i miss the glassy look already).
and some of the changes in taskmanager was very irritating(wtf!? although i liked a few of the new features).
on the other hand, using ubuntu for the first time was a worse experience than going with win8, it was like walking in a maze of cacti while blind-folded, LOL.
thankfully i had a fully documented guide on how to not break linux.
AceHigh:
--- Quote from: zherok on October 30, 2013, 02:46:51 PM ---Get a start menu replacement, seriously. Windows 8 is just a more efficient Windows 7 for me. I never see Metro unless I specifically go out of my way to find it.
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The problem is to get to that point when this piece of shit keeps updating, works slowly as shit, while I uninstall bundle crap as well.
Know the first thing I do when I work with newly installed Win7? Click Start->type UAC in search field->User control window pops up-> I disable it.
Well fuck me twice over, there was an unnessessary huge amount of guesswork to figure out how to get there without any start tab or search function. NOTHING is intuitive in this piece of crap OS that is not yet even Win8.1
I seriously want to smash a brand new notebook to pieces.
zherok:
There's a program that adds the glass look back to Win8. It's nagware unless you donate though (shows a popup on startup.)
Used it for a bit before it broke in 8.1 (beta version in testing last I checked), but a friend pointed out to me that UXStyle had been updated for Win8. So I just use themes now instead. Make sure you use a recent one if you've updated to 8.1, otherwise some of your UI will be broken.
I agree the mandatory flat look by default is a bit of a turnoff. The desktop just looks bland, and their application on the full screen "Metro" (or whatever the fuck they actually call it now) style is usually pretty but less than functional. Not that I seem to be able to get some of them to work at all (you're supposed to be able to get a search collage when you end up looking something up, but I can never seem to be able to get it to complete a search.)
--- Quote from: AceHigh on October 30, 2013, 03:39:23 PM ---The problem is to get to that point when this piece of shit keeps updating, works slowly as shit, while I uninstall bundle crap as well.
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I've been lucky enough to be using a desktop that came shipped with a very minimal amount of "extra" software, and have just been upgrading it since then. Laptops definitely tend to suck though.
--- Quote ---Know the first thing I do when I work with newly installed Win7? Click Start->type UAC in search field->User control window pops up-> I disable it.
Well fuck me twice over, there was an unnessessary huge amount of guesswork to figure out how to get there without any start tab or search function. NOTHING is intuitive in this piece of crap OS that is not yet even Win8.1
I seriously want to smash a brand new notebook to pieces.
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It's in User Accounts in the Control Panel (UAC is User Account Control after all.)
One difference though, you can disable all the prompts from the slider in Windows 8, but you're not entirely disabling UAC. You have to do some command line or registry stuff to do that. And in doing so you break certain features (the Windows Store will not work with it disabled, IIRC, may have other effects too.) This wouldn't normally be an issue, but for example, updating to Windows 8.1 required me to use said Windows Store to download it.
Personally I just drop it down to the bottom and it works more or less as it would disabling it entirely.
kitamesume:
good idea, i just started downloading abisso, hopefully it doesn't break anything.
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