PSN is down..

[AceHigh]

Dude, way to be stuck in 2004... what are your speeds? 1.2 Mbps down and 170 Kbps up? hahahaha

Actually 16mbit down, 0,8mbit up and I still can't think of a way to use it to the limit. Why would I order someone to dig up the backyard and poke a few holes in the building to get fiber which I won't be able to use to the limit anyway? Sounds like a waste of money to me. Besides weren't you going all hillbilly against new technology just a few days ago? Oh wait I almost forgot, obvious troll is obvious  

[BrownMasterV]

Yes, I'm a PC gamer. I guess "inferior console" made it look like I was singling out the PS3.
But no, I meant that all consoles are inferior to PC. But that's just my keyboard/mouse fanboy speaking :3
I was just trying to spark a flame on a boring day~

[kurandoinu]

Bleh. I can't connect my PS3 to the net anyway, so PSN is down every day for me!

[Chiyachan]

PC is better than all. We get the biggest selection of games, first for updated content. Dev kits etc etc.
I lol'd at Sony for this. WAFF. GG GLADoS.

[Meomix]

If you installed Windows ME on the xbox i wonder if the combination would create a virus the world has never seen.

[Garret02]

Why would I order someone to dig up the backyard and poke a few holes in the building to get fiber which I won't be able to use to the limit anyway?

Because you can. Don't you get it?

Anyway, as to why PSN is down, my suspicion falls at Valve with their Steam. I think they fucked up. Ofcourse Sony can't say they fucked things up because they want good realtions with Valve, because Steam on PS3 can and most probably will lead to more profit. Well, it doesn't really concern me since I almost never play online.

And would you please stop those stupid hardware wars? Does it really matter if someone plays on PC, PS3, X360 or whatever? Can't we all just be nice friendly gamers?

[Tatsujin]

Yes, I'm a PC gamer. I guess "inferior console" made it look like I was singling out the PS3.
But no, I meant that all consoles are inferior to PC. But that's just my keyboard/mouse fanboy speaking :3
I was just trying to spark a flame on a boring day~

They are inferior. But so is PC. PC is not a gaming hardware machine. It's designed to do more than that. Consoles are more for games. Both consoles do provide some nice features other than gaming, but 300 dollars being put on a PS3 is a serious bang for what you're asking for. Blu-ray feature, free online passage and I so love the XBM (was it?). It's really good.

But other than that, this thread is turning into a console/PC flame war. I have PC and PS3 and I enjoy them both, very very much.

[tomoya-kun]

Why would I order someone to dig up the backyard and poke a few holes in the building to get fiber which I won't be able to use to the limit anyway?

Because you can. Don't you get it?

Anyway, as to why PSN is down, my suspicion falls at Valve with their Steam. I think they fucked up. Ofcourse Sony can't say they fucked things up because they want good realtions with Valve, because Steam on PS3 can and most probably will lead to more profit. Well, it doesn't really concern me since I almost never play online.

And would you please stop those stupid hardware wars? Does it really matter if someone plays on PC, PS3, X360 or whatever? Can't we all just be nice friendly gamers?

They already say that it was a breach of security, right?

[Garret02]

They already say that it was a breach of security, right?

Yes, they did. Does one excludes the other?

[Xtras]

The thing I don't quite see is that these arguments are made to sound as if a console can replace a PC. I mean even if you have your Xbox 360 or PS3, you are probably going to spend $800 or so on a decent computer (possibly a little less). Now consider if you added the amount the console costed to your PC budget. You'd have a pretty nice system that would probably run games smoothly for quite a while (barring that you are one of those ultra high fanboys).

If there is a game though that is out for console and PC, I don't see why you wouldn't get it on PC. If your console goes out of production and your unit dies, you effectively lost all of your games too. Backwards compatibility is on the decline due to cost for hardware emulation, and complications for software emulation. Alternatively if your disc is circle ringed, you just blew all of your money. Buying a game on PC typically has a lot more staying power, especially if you bought it digital and not on disc.

As for PSN being down, yeah it is a pain but I suppose Sony is doing a good thing by taking precaution against future attacks. I mean anybody that can get into that system can potentially do a lot of damage to both the company and the users. Imagine if all the accounts were permanantly erased, or it triggered a system update with a virus. That'd be an even larger pain in the ass than a few days wait.

[Lupin]

TorrentFreak has an interesting theory why PSN is still down: http://torrentfreak.com/playstation-network-shut-down-to-end-piracy-free-for-all-110426/

[Smokeyjr2]

I have here Proof that the Xbox360 is better then the PS3.

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http://www.pvcmuseum.com/games/vs/ps3-vs-xbox-360-gpu-specs.htm

You also cant compare consoles to PCs because a PCs hardware is just so much better so there is no comparison its like comparing a Lambo VS a Prius.

ON-Topic: PSN down doesnt matter much to me i play Xbox Live. :P

[Havoc10K]

just a bit of humor or seriousness, in my eyes, any console is better than XboX... any.

[Meomix]

I have here Proof that the Xbox360 is better then the PS3.

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http://www.pvcmuseum.com/games/vs/ps3-vs-xbox-360-gpu-specs.htm

You also cant compare consoles to PCs because a PCs hardware is just so much better so there is no comparison its like comparing a Lambo VS a Prius.

ON-Topic: PSN down doesnt matter much to me i play Xbox Live.

Whoops looks like i mixed up posts, yes PC is better by far.

[Havoc10K]

I have here Proof that the Xbox360 is better then the PS3.

(click to show/hide)

http://www.pvcmuseum.com/games/vs/ps3-vs-xbox-360-gpu-specs.htm

You also cant compare consoles to PCs because a PCs hardware is just so much better so there is no comparison its like comparing a Lambo VS a Prius.

ON-Topic: PSN down doesnt matter much to me i play Xbox Live.

article from 2006 that is really brilliant, yet, for some reason, PS3 is constantly stable, while XboX is from microsoft, nothing they ever did was stable

but PC is better cuz it offers much more with hardware and it's software, consoles are meant to be weaker than the PC, they are meant to be purely entertainment, while PCs can be used in office work, architecture and other stuff like designing some stuff, which in contrast must have much more power.
Consoles are only to provide entertainment, unless you can show me a console with MSoffice or 3D studio max or any other program that requires a real engine to run it. If all games for consoles and PC were released as multiplatforms (XboX/PS3/PC) it would have been awesome, cuz everyone could just buy one platform and play any game they wanted to, alas tehre are exclusive games which really bothers me sometimes, can't help it though.

PSN should be back in 3 days, but that is my guess.

[TMRNetShark]

Dude, way to be stuck in 2004... what are your speeds? 1.2 Mbps down and 170 Kbps up? hahahaha

Actually 16mbit down, 0,8mbit up and I still can't think of a way to use it to the limit. Why would I order someone to dig up the backyard and poke a few holes in the building to get fiber which I won't be able to use to the limit anyway? Sounds like a waste of money to me. Besides weren't you going all hillbilly against new technology just a few days ago? Oh wait I almost forgot, obvious troll is obvious  

There is a difference between "new" technology and "slightly better" technology... but then again, anything you think that is different and new is "instantly better than the old technology."

For example, Windows 8 will still be 64 bit, will still have security problems until patched at a later date, and probably look relatively the same as Windows 7. How is that being a hillbilly? Difference between YOUR DSL and Fiber-optics is that I can download (torrent or otherwise) while still getting great latency ( < 50 ms) while playing Counter Strike Source while the other person I live with with torrents all day long and plays his Xbox... It's not cheap each month, but it's totally worth it for the 60 Mbps down and 14 Mbps up. Difference? DSL wouldn't do that. So fiberoptics > DSL while Windows 8 will only be slightly better than Windows 7 with no real improvements.

A good example would be the iPhone... The iPhone 4 was the only real improvement in design and hardware over the first one... yet mindless amounts of drones bought the first one, the 3G, and the 3GS. Difference between each one of those? I couldn't tell you at all from the top of my head.

I have here Proof that the Xbox360 is better then the PS3.

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http://www.pvcmuseum.com/games/vs/ps3-vs-xbox-360-gpu-specs.htm

You also cant compare consoles to PCs because a PCs hardware is just so much better so there is no comparison its like comparing a Lambo VS a Prius.

ON-Topic: PSN down doesnt matter much to me i play Xbox Live.

I like how you showed an article (more like a forum post) that compared GPU to GPU. Yes, the xbox 360 has 48 "universal" pipelines compared to the dedicated 24 shader and 8 vertex of the PS3. What that forum post failed to state is that the cell processor in the PS3 can pick up vertex shading from the standard 8 pipelines it has. It can still only use 24 for shader while the 360 can use more than that. Multi-platform games do have a better frame rate on the 360, but overall... the PS3 has better looking first party games. This is all debatable, but graphics aren't the most important thing in gaming... it's how fun the game can be. 

[Tatsujin]

I have here Proof that the Xbox360 is better then the PS3.

(click to show/hide)

http://www.pvcmuseum.com/games/vs/ps3-vs-xbox-360-gpu-specs.htm

You also cant compare consoles to PCs because a PCs hardware is just so much better so there is no comparison its like comparing a Lambo VS a Prius.

ON-Topic: PSN down doesnt matter much to me i play Xbox Live.

That's a 2006 post. -facepalms- If I have to point out to you exclusives, the PS3 games literally are far more concrete and superior than the 360. Plus, that forum literally failed to compare CELL processor versus the die hard 3 processors Microsoft was bragging so hard about. What was it again? Xenon or some shit? Get your facts together please.

[Smokeyjr2]

Im just picking on the PS3 users :P. In my honest opinion neither is superior they are both equal some games look better on the PS3 some on Xbox360 so there is no way to decide which is better. If you wanna talk units sold the Wii is better then both.

The PC is not a console so it shouldnt even be in the discussion.

[TMRNetShark]

Im just picking on the PS3 users . In my honest opinion neither is superior they are both equal some games look better on the PS3 some on Xbox360 so there is no way to decide which is better. If you wanna talk units sold the Wii is better then both.

The PC is not a console so it shouldnt even be in the discussion.

People feel the need to put in their two cents... even if it's irrelevant.

[Havoc10K]

it's still a gaming platform, just like any other console.

at any rate, how many jokes you know about XboX and PS3 ?