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Intel Makes 22nm 3-D Tri-Gate Tech for Ivy Bridge

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Lupin:

--- Quote from: kitamesume on May 05, 2011, 05:58:01 PM ---nope they dont and will not explain, you wouldnt explain how you made your food right? you`d just show it and let people taste it and on the contrary your "food" is still in the production phase so you`d make your customers wait. but the part of tasting always ends up giving away the secret which is similar to giving away how THAT transistor works.

in short, i`m saying they wont be releasing the actual use for the transistor until they officially release the unit.

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Actual use? Do you even know what you are saying? It's a transistor. Even if the configuration differs from the ones currently used in production, it's still a transistor so it will behave and be used like one.

There are several IEEE papers about the topic published around 10 years ago. It been produced in small quantities before.

Anand did a simple explanation of how what it does and how it affects future fabrication: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4313/intel-announces-first-22nm-3d-trigate-transistors-shipping-in-2h-2011

What intel won't share is how to mass produce it.

kitamesume:
no i meant what actual effects and difference other than those improvements the Tri-Gate over the old ones is.

Edit: benches for example >,> if how much difference clock for clock and clock per voltage does it make.

kureshii:
kitamesume, details were already revealed at the press conference about a couple of days ago. Just enough to generate some marketing buzz, but not enough for people to go ahead and start manufacturing their own 22nm tri-gate transistors yet from that information, of course (as Lupin mentioned). And have you read the Anandtech article yet? The main points are already summarised quite nicely there.

Lupin, if you would just shift to the IRC channel, I can abandon the tech forums forever ;x

Lupin:

--- Quote from: kitamesume on May 05, 2011, 06:26:40 PM ---no i meant what actual effects and difference other than those improvements the Tri-Gate over the old ones is.

Edit: benches for example >,> if how much difference clock for clock and clock per voltage does it make.

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If Ivy bridge is just a change in the transistor used, then you can say how much trigates improved the performance. But it isn't. It's also a process shrink. Unless you can isolate the improvements done by each change, then you can't accurately determine it.

My guess is that the gains will be bigger than what Westmere was to Nehalem. By how much? No clue

For people interested in the technical stuff: http://www.intel.com/technology/silicon/tri-gate.htm?iid=tech_silicon_pipeline+body_transistors


--- Quote from: kureshii on May 05, 2011, 06:35:33 PM ---Lupin, if you would just shift to the IRC channel, I can abandon the tech forums forever ;x

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I was in the channel a couple of days ago. You were sleeping :D

I'll try to remember adding #bakabt back to my autojoin list. The last time it was there was before I got my account banned :D

TMRNetShark:
Good... goood... this is all working perfectly into my plan!

Oh yeah, my plan is to some day become a full on cyborg... to become one, I need Moore's Law to grow exponentially faster! I expect by 2045 that I can become fully cyberized and all thanks to corporations like Intel that will make it possible.

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