Modern Warfare 3 + ELITE Features

[TMRNetShark]

Well i do agree it is hard to get a high KD:R in CoD. As you can see from my Sig i play Battlefield Bad company 2, I really enjoy the game and maintain a 2.0+ KD:R.

I've played both Bad Company games too. I like the 2nd one better than the first by a mile... but BF2 and BF1942 were the best games that DICE had made. I played BF1942 all the time until BF2 came out. After the second map pack for BF2 got old, I went to CoD: Modern Warfare. Once the introduction of zombies came out in WaW, I knew I had made the switch (even thought I played CoD 1, 2, & 3 as well before).

As of right now, I believe that this Annihilation map pack for Black Ops is the last one. I am also hoping that they finally make a stand alone zombies game.

[Smokeyjr2]

Only zombie games i play are resident evil so thank god for the come back of a actual resident evil zombie game Operation:Racoon City.

[TMRNetShark]

Only zombie games i play are resident evil so thank god for the come back of a actual resident evil zombie game Operation:Racoon City.

Eh, I thought 4 was AMAZING. But Racoon City looks like it will be very shooter like which I don't know how I will feel about it.

[Smokeyjr2]

True but at least its going back to the zombies not mind controlled Ethiopians. From the videos i've seen it looks really cool.

[Tatsujin]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

[Smokeyjr2]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second. If you play on PS3 your FPS will prolly drop to 30 from 60 which might be why they are doing it. (Note: The Xbox360 doesnt drop in FPS ever)

[zat0x91]

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second.

You forgot to mention that it's 30 FPS with motion blur which games do not do - at least correctly.  

Some computer games try to simulate motion blur by blending the current frame with the previous frames, so that previous frames are still visible for a moment. This makes moving objects smear across the screen. This is not real motion blur; it does not look good and is a waste of processor power.

http://freespace.virgin.net/hugo.elias/graphics/x_motion.htm

 

Gee, I wonder why people play with CRT/LCDs @ 120hz rather than 60hz.  Probably because you can tell the difference.

[TMRNetShark]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second. If you play on PS3 your FPS will prolly drop to 30 from 60 which might be why they are doing it. (Note: The Xbox360 doesnt drop in FPS ever)

Ahhh, I use to think that... but that's not reality. And they are making it 60 because it will drop on the PS3? The only reason why PS3 has frame rate issues on multi-platform (key words here) games, is because most developers make it for the Xbox 360 first and then port it over to the PS3. Guess what? BF3 has been shown on the PC at E3 and on the PS3 when they had the demo on The Jimmy Fallon show. This is because developers realized (with L.A. Noire's Team Bondi) that it's easier to make the PS3 the lead platform and port to the Xbox 360. Why they do 60 fps over 30 fps is because of twitch gaming of MW3 versus the slower approach of BF3. True, I would rather have a brand new engine. At the same time, only doing 30 fps runs the risk of slow downs (especially in multiplayer) if you A. have a lot of vehicles on screen... and B. A lot of explosions at one time... If the game isn't properly coded, you might lose just because the engine wasn't up to snuf (and that's completely out of your control). With 60 fps in MW3, that would RARELY happen unless it was lag related (then obviously you need a better connection ).

[Smokeyjr2]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second. If you play on PS3 your FPS will prolly drop to 30 from 60 which might be why they are doing it. (Note: The Xbox360 doesnt drop in FPS ever)

Ahhh, I use to think that... but that's not reality. And they are making it 60 because it will drop on the PS3? The only reason why PS3 has frame rate issues on multi-platform (key words here) games, is because most developers make it for the Xbox 360 first and then port it over to the PS3. Guess what? BF3 has been shown on the PC at E3 and on the PS3 when they had the demo on The Jimmy Fallon show. This is because developers realized (with L.A. Noire's Team Bondi) that it's easier to make the PS3 the lead platform and port to the Xbox 360. Why they do 60 fps over 30 fps is because of twitch gaming of MW3 versus the slower approach of BF3. True, I would rather have a brand new engine. At the same time, only doing 30 fps runs the risk of slow downs (especially in multiplayer) if you A. have a lot of vehicles on screen... and B. A lot of explosions at one time... If the game isn't properly coded, you might lose just because the engine wasn't up to snuf (and that's completely out of your control). With 60 fps in MW3, that would RARELY happen unless it was lag related (then obviously you need a better connection ).

If im reading this right then i agree that MW3 should be a higher fps because of how fast paced it is rather then the slower pace of Battlefield so only 30 FPS is needed for that.

[TMRNetShark]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second. If you play on PS3 your FPS will prolly drop to 30 from 60 which might be why they are doing it. (Note: The Xbox360 doesnt drop in FPS ever)

Ahhh, I use to think that... but that's not reality. And they are making it 60 because it will drop on the PS3? The only reason why PS3 has frame rate issues on multi-platform (key words here) games, is because most developers make it for the Xbox 360 first and then port it over to the PS3. Guess what? BF3 has been shown on the PC at E3 and on the PS3 when they had the demo on The Jimmy Fallon show. This is because developers realized (with L.A. Noire's Team Bondi) that it's easier to make the PS3 the lead platform and port to the Xbox 360. Why they do 60 fps over 30 fps is because of twitch gaming of MW3 versus the slower approach of BF3. True, I would rather have a brand new engine. At the same time, only doing 30 fps runs the risk of slow downs (especially in multiplayer) if you A. have a lot of vehicles on screen... and B. A lot of explosions at one time... If the game isn't properly coded, you might lose just because the engine wasn't up to snuf (and that's completely out of your control). With 60 fps in MW3, that would RARELY happen unless it was lag related (then obviously you need a better connection ).

If im reading this right then i agree that MW3 should be a higher fps because of how fast paced it is rather then the slower pace of Battlefield so only 30 FPS is needed for that.

Correct. To do what DICE wants to do in BF3, they will need to only use up to 30 FPS. Obviously, this will allow them to make their gameplay more varied compared to MW3. MW3 on the other hand is about having a better reaction time then your opponent, hence why it NEEDS 60 FPS. BF3 and MW3 will both play well, but it is a true test to see who is better at the military shooter genre. Pre-CoD era, there was Medal of Honor which had. Allied Assault was one of the greatest games of the time along with Frontline. Those two games made EA the king (of the time). Then it was a battle between CoD and BF1942... to which I answer... I loved both the games. Once again, BF2 and CoD 2&3 were ALL great games. It just went downhill when EA went with BF:BC 1 & 2 and allowed Activision to gain the head lead with MW 1 & 2 and Black Ops. I at least hope it goes back to how I felt about CoD and BF1942 with MW3 and BF3. I am quite interested on IF's take on what WW3 would be like... and BF3 will just be awesome with vehicles and running people over with them.

[Tatsujin]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second. If you play on PS3 your FPS will prolly drop to 30 from 60 which might be why they are doing it. (Note: The Xbox360 doesnt drop in FPS ever)

You can notice up to 60 frames per second. PS3 can do 60+ frames per second (most games are only 30 or 60). Or are you specifically saying because PS3 can only do 30 frames per second in MW3?

[TMRNetShark]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second. If you play on PS3 your FPS will prolly drop to 30 from 60 which might be why they are doing it. (Note: The Xbox360 doesnt drop in FPS ever)

You can notice up to 60 frames per second. PS3 can do 60+ frames per second (most games are only 30 or 60). Or are you specifically saying because PS3 can only do 30 frames per second in MW3?

No, he's just system bashing with no basis. 

[Smokeyjr2]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second. If you play on PS3 your FPS will prolly drop to 30 from 60 which might be why they are doing it. (Note: The Xbox360 doesnt drop in FPS ever)

You can notice up to 60 frames per second. PS3 can do 60+ frames per second (most games are only 30 or 60). Or are you specifically saying because PS3 can only do 30 frames per second in MW3?

No, he's just system bashing with no basis. 

lol i've seen video testing for both 360 and PS3 and the PS3 kept dropping FPS while the 360 was always at 30.

[Tatsujin]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second. If you play on PS3 your FPS will prolly drop to 30 from 60 which might be why they are doing it. (Note: The Xbox360 doesnt drop in FPS ever)

You can notice up to 60 frames per second. PS3 can do 60+ frames per second (most games are only 30 or 60). Or are you specifically saying because PS3 can only do 30 frames per second in MW3?

No, he's just system bashing with no basis. 

lol i've seen video testing for both 360 and PS3 and the PS3 kept dropping FPS while the 360 was always at 30.

In most games yes, and via versa the same shit happens to the 360. Get back on-topic please. MW3.

[TMRNetShark]

Sledgehammer talks up MW3 frame rate and engine improvements.

Does us no good since humans can only see in 30 Frames per second. If you play on PS3 your FPS will prolly drop to 30 from 60 which might be why they are doing it. (Note: The Xbox360 doesnt drop in FPS ever)

You can notice up to 60 frames per second. PS3 can do 60+ frames per second (most games are only 30 or 60). Or are you specifically saying because PS3 can only do 30 frames per second in MW3?

No, he's just system bashing with no basis.  

lol i've seen video testing for both 360 and PS3 and the PS3 kept dropping FPS while the 360 was always at 30.

Yeah, and you might also know that people head development on the 360 then port it to the PS3. Did you also know that when they do head development on the PS3 and port it to the Xbox 360, that the PS3 version is better? Shocker, isn't it? So this "testing" is obviously using ONE developers code for the 360 versus the developers code for the PS3. Which one is gonna be the better one? The code that has been around longer and has less bugs/more optimization. Now if you can show me an unbiased difference that says the 360 is superior in terms of frame rates and graphics... oh wait... spoke too... late... Now I can argue that Bioware first made the code for the Xbox 360 then ported it over... but how to you explain why it looks better and runs comparably the same on the PS3? That's Mass Effect though, let's look at a game that matter IN THIS TOPIC. We have this to reference to which looks better... Do you see a difference? I do. That difference is that the Xbox 360 has bloom effects and the PS3 doesn't. Wanna know why? I havn't got a clue. I will tell you besides that bloom effect, the two version look exactly the same. This whole "the 360 runs games better than the PS3" argument is moot because it all has to do with developers heading projects on whichever platform. Infinity Ward is using IW Engine 5.0 with MW3 and it's more than likely headed on the 360 platform (cause MS and Acti buttfuck each other)... On the other hand, DICE is heading BF3 on the PS3 (between the consoles, obviously the main developing platform is the PC). Will the PS3 look better than the 360 version/run better? I havn't the slightest clue. I CAN tell you for sure that if a game was lead developed on the Xbox 360, it ran better than the PS3. If it was lead developed for the PS3, I can tell you right now it ran better than the 360.

The one problem that developers are gonna be running into the next couple of years is space issue... but space was never an issue in CoD games (seeing as how less is more according to Activision).

ON TOPIC: I found this article interesting... Not really informative, but an interesting read nonetheless.

The article states that in the battle between MW3 and BF3... the winner is predictably MW3. The reason he states this is becase MW3 is by far more simple than BF3 is. He says that a huge amount of players are casual (duh) and all they care about is the next great CoD game... so basically CoD has become Madden NFL from EA. BF3 is aiming directly for the market with (don't kill me for this) the least casual platform... the PC. So tell me, how does a game like DICE's BF3 actually dismantle the king of console shooters? MW3 has 60 fps, survival mode (which I'm particularly looking forward to), stats out the ass (which I also like), the possibility of quick scoping coming back (doubt it), and the massive horde of CoD addicts (this includes teenies, minorities, and some [understatement of the century] annoying suburban kids who love to talk smack). BF3 has all the hardcore gamers loving their game, but will it will ultimately be judged against MW3 on the consoles and not on the PC (cause MW3 on PC will be lacking while BF3 will be the best on the PC).

So yeah.. On consoles, MW3 looks like the victor. On PC, it will definitely be BF3 (with superior graphics, dedicated servers, larger number of players per server).

[Tatsujin]

Modern Warfare 3 multiplayer tourney to debut in Melbourne next week.

[Gangster301]

www.modernwarfare3. com

  This is too awesome!

[vuzedome]

Smooth call there EA, I can't do this over steam and to hell with Origin, guess I'll go physical retail this time.

[TMRNetShark]

Smooth call there EA, I can't do this over steam and to hell with Origin, guess I'll go physical retail this time.

Taking the domain name before Activision bought it.... I mean it isn't too hard on EA's part to think "Oh, they (Activision) totally will be making a moderwarfare3.com website... let's take it before they do."


That's the end product... advertising for people who didn't use google (and it's even on google as well).

[Tatsujin]

First Call of Duty: Elite beta invites going out today.

Call of Duty Elite beta walkthrough video from Beachhead released. Gameplay video inside the link.