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bloody000:

--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on May 27, 2011, 09:03:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: bloody000 on May 27, 2011, 08:57:24 PM ---Typical response from a KDR obsessed ***.

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It's ok, at least i can consistently get a good KDR without camping and still having my team win.

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Sure..... Whatever you say man.

Hiero:

--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on May 27, 2011, 08:43:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hiero on May 27, 2011, 08:36:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: zat0x91 on May 27, 2011, 06:07:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on May 27, 2011, 12:45:12 PM ---So you'd rather have someone who would lose the game match fast for your team? I don't see the obvious in that. Even on the flip side, if that person sucked so badly, at least he wouldn't ruin it for the rest of the team!

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Yes and I don't play with people like you.

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I'm in rather the same boat- though I play objective games nearly all the time, I would take the guy with more plants/caps and a horrible k/d than the person with none that's just racking up kills, even if kill streaks help.

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So you complain about teamwork but would rather have worse players on your team? I totally see the logic...

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I'm not sure if you're referring to me or Zat, but I would rather have someone playing the objective than sitting back and getting kills. If your team is winning then I see nothing wrong with sitting back, but when I'm on a team that loses and you see people that have X many kills and haven't tried to cap/plant then they should stick to TDM. There are exceptions and different moments when this doesn't always apply (cutting enemy team off in HQ while your team caps), but for the most part it applies.

TMRNetShark:

--- Quote from: Hiero on May 27, 2011, 11:56:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on May 27, 2011, 08:43:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hiero on May 27, 2011, 08:36:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: zat0x91 on May 27, 2011, 06:07:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on May 27, 2011, 12:45:12 PM ---So you'd rather have someone who would lose the game match fast for your team? I don't see the obvious in that. Even on the flip side, if that person sucked so badly, at least he wouldn't ruin it for the rest of the team!

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Yes and I don't play with people like you.

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I'm in rather the same boat- though I play objective games nearly all the time, I would take the guy with more plants/caps and a horrible k/d than the person with none that's just racking up kills, even if kill streaks help.

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So you complain about teamwork but would rather have worse players on your team? I totally see the logic...

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I'm not sure if you're referring to me or Zat, but I would rather have someone playing the objective than sitting back and getting kills. If your team is winning then I see nothing wrong with sitting back, but when I'm on a team that loses and you see people that have X many kills and haven't tried to cap/plant then they should stick to TDM. There are exceptions and different moments when this doesn't always apply (cutting enemy team off in HQ while your team caps), but for the most part it applies.

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Objective matches are different, by far. The majority of the people playing the game are playing TDM though and camping in a TDM cannot be stopped (or any match type for that matter). I was referring to more to Zat who thinks complaining will end all camping.

I mean yeah, I hate camping... but not as much as n00b t00bes mainly because I never really have a chance to fire back. Campers can still be surprised by good players or at least people who have good reaction times (twitch gaming).


--- Quote from: bloody000 on May 27, 2011, 11:02:58 PM ---
Sure..... Whatever you say man.


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Great response! I can really see your side of the argument! So much so that I'm completely turned off CoD: Black Ops that I just broke my Blu-ray disc of it out of frustration. I believe that people should always play the way I play because that's the only FAIR way to play! If someone camps or n00b t00bes, I will just report them for cheating! Technically they are cheating because camping is cheap and should not be allowed whatsoever...

*TMRNetShark's assistant whispers something in his ear...*

Metagame? What the fuck is that? Oh.... you mean metagame is what players have do to adapt to changing game conditions to win? That makes sense... that also makes it interesting too. Let's break it down then.

Advantages of camping:


* Easily shoot and hit someone running by
* Enemies are unaware of your location (unless Spy Place or SR71 are present)
Disadvantages of camping:


* You can be easily killed (since you are stationary)
* You can easily be killed by a grenade or blinded by a flash
* You can have someone easily sneak up on you
* It is possible no one runs by your "camping" spot (or rarely anyone)
* After the first time someone has been "camp" killed... they know where you are and can easily flush you out. (Unless you are INCREDIBLY dumb and consistently get killed by a camper 3 or 4 times which it kinda sounds like you have)
Disagree with me please.

bloody000:
And how am I supposed to shoot campers on my side?
Do you actually read my posts?

Also, what fucking response did you expect? You basically said "yeah but I'm awesome" how the he'll am I supposed to refute that? It's like asking me to prove Lord Xenu doesn't exist.

zat0x91:

--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on May 28, 2011, 12:28:46 AM ---Advantages of camping:


* Easily shoot and hit someone running by
* Enemies are unaware of your location (unless Spy Place or SR71 are present)
Disadvantages of camping:


* You can be easily killed (since you are stationary)
* You can easily be killed by a grenade or blinded by a flash
* You can have someone easily sneak up on you
* It is possible no one runs by your "camping" spot (or rarely anyone)
* After the first time someone has been "camp" killed... they know where you are and can easily flush you out. (Unless you are INCREDIBLY dumb and consistently get killed by a camper 3 or 4 times which it kinda sounds like you have)
Disagree with me please.

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Yeah, when one person is in a spot where there's no windows and only one door.  That sure is easy to quickly shoot precisely while other people are shooting at your back.

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