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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2011, 06:37:46 PM »
When the Wii came out they never really talked about the system - Nintendo is portraying the "coolest" feature of their new toy. Once again, that's the one thing you actually touch - the controller. You're talking semantics when you talk about "oh it's just got a new processor and a new video card, that doesn't make it a new console".

What's the difference between the PS2 and the PS3? That's all they updated and gave it a slight cosmetic change. There's no difference there. It's a new console because it's new hardware and a new control system. I don't see how that's *not* a new console.

Being backwards compatible is not the same as forward compatible - I don't know any console that's "forward compatible" at all and I wouldn't expect games made for the Wii U to work on the Wii - especially those with HD graphics, it's simply impossible. There are still games produced for both the PS2 and the PS3 simultaneously and I expect the same will happen with the Wii and Wii U. As far as the controllers go, I wouldn't be surprised if they have a dock for Gamecube controllers like they do on the Wii right now but I also wouldn't be surprised if they decided to let the 10+ year old system finally die.

I'll tell you what the difference is between the PS2 and the PS3. It has hardcore gamers that like the games that are on the console. Console gamers like the feel of their Xbox 360 controller or their Dual Shock controller. This WiiU controller will definitely be similar to both of those while adding in all those new features (especially the screen). The problem will start when there are no games that appeal to the hardcore market. It's an impressive showing of features and hardware... with only the promise of games that will come to the console and at a significantly lower level of graphics and "precise" gameplay.

The only game that I think it will truly make awesome will be Zelda with the inventory system. Much beyond that, I will have to see games being played to see whether I will be impressed.

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2011, 06:48:06 PM »
When the Wii came out they never really talked about the system - Nintendo is portraying the "coolest" feature of their new toy. Once again, that's the one thing you actually touch - the controller. You're talking semantics when you talk about "oh it's just got a new processor and a new video card, that doesn't make it a new console".

What's the difference between the PS2 and the PS3? That's all they updated and gave it a slight cosmetic change. There's no difference there. It's a new console because it's new hardware and a new control system. I don't see how that's *not* a new console.

Being backwards compatible is not the same as forward compatible - I don't know any console that's "forward compatible" at all and I wouldn't expect games made for the Wii U to work on the Wii - especially those with HD graphics, it's simply impossible. There are still games produced for both the PS2 and the PS3 simultaneously and I expect the same will happen with the Wii and Wii U. As far as the controllers go, I wouldn't be surprised if they have a dock for Gamecube controllers like they do on the Wii right now but I also wouldn't be surprised if they decided to let the 10+ year old system finally die.

I'll tell you what the difference is between the PS2 and the PS3. It has hardcore gamers that like the games that are on the console. Console gamers like the feel of their Xbox 360 controller or their Dual Shock controller. This WiiU controller will definitely be similar to both of those while adding in all those new features (especially the screen). The problem will start when there are no games that appeal to the hardcore market. It's an impressive showing of features and hardware... with only the promise of games that will come to the console and at a significantly lower level of graphics and "precise" gameplay.

The only game that I think it will truly make awesome will be Zelda with the inventory system. Much beyond that, I will have to see games being played to see whether I will be impressed.

Console gamers hated - hated - the xbox controller and expressed the same doubts you express now over the next Nintendo controller about the 360 controller. It still looked clunky, it still looked too big, it still looked stupid. All of these things were being said some 6-7 years ago.

Did you watch ANY of the conference? Did you miss the various developers talking about their games being released on the new Nintendo console? Battlefield, Assassins Creed, and the entire EA sports lineup just names a few already "signed on" to the system.

Significantly lower level of graphics? In comparison to what - the unnamed and unseen future consoles that will not be released within a year of the new Nintendo console? It will be the top dog on graphics and processing power when it comes out and will continue to be for the following 9-15 months until Microsoft and/or Sony releases their next console. The hardcore gaming community does not wait - they purchase.

This new console is Nintendo's attempt to grab back some of the "hardcore" (read: FPS junkies) gamers back. They will have the graphics. They will have a nifty new controller system that Microsoft and Sony will attempt to copy (just like the Wii mote) and they will have the upper hand in 5-7 years when they roll out their next console because they acted first.

Sony or Microsoft will have to unveil something out of left field to get the momentum back just like Nintendo did with the Wii.

I think the only true concern over the next Nintendo console is the highly unacceptable Nintendo wifi network - though Nintendo is claiming their network will be up to snuff with Sony and Microsoft. The question is, will it remain free?


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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #62 on: June 07, 2011, 07:01:43 PM »
Wii U is a new console. Read the articles from Nintendo.

WiiU – Hands-on impressions and hardware photos. Why don't you click this link and read up on it? It's a new console if that's the argument.


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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #63 on: June 07, 2011, 07:20:13 PM »
Console gamers hated - hated - the xbox controller and expressed the same doubts you express now over the next Nintendo controller about the 360 controller. It still looked clunky, it still looked too big, it still looked stupid. All of these things were being said some 6-7 years ago.

Did you watch ANY of the conference? Did you miss the various developers talking about their games being released on the new Nintendo console? Battlefield, Assassins Creed, and the entire EA sports lineup just names a few already "signed on" to the system.

Significantly lower level of graphics? In comparison to what - the unnamed and unseen future consoles that will not be released within a year of the new Nintendo console? It will be the top dog on graphics and processing power when it comes out and will continue to be for the following 9-15 months until Microsoft and/or Sony releases their next console. The hardcore gaming community does not wait - they purchase.

This new console is Nintendo's attempt to grab back some of the "hardcore" (read: FPS junkies) gamers back. They will have the graphics. They will have a nifty new controller system that Microsoft and Sony will attempt to copy (just like the Wii mote) and they will have the upper hand in 5-7 years when they roll out their next console because they acted first.

Sony or Microsoft will have to unveil something out of left field to get the momentum back just like Nintendo did with the Wii.

I think the only true concern over the next Nintendo console is the highly unacceptable Nintendo wifi network - though Nintendo is claiming their network will be up to snuff with Sony and Microsoft. The question is, will it remain free?

Did YOU watch any of the conference?

I saw a bunch of developers say that there will be games on the WiiU. What I also saw was a Killzone Tech demo all over again and they showed footage of Xbox 360 and PS3 and PC games acting like the WiiU can do this as well. Signing on to a system means Nintendo is or has already sent you a SDK. Will the same level of games be coming out for the WiiU as the other two consoles? I don't know. I DO know that if the console is that freakin small, I would want to know what type of nano hardware can fit in that little box of a console that would surpass both of the other systems. As for the backwards compatibility issue, is the hardware similar to the Wii with just higher spec numbers? OR is it software backwards compatible?

All in all, from what I got from the conference is that it will not surpass the 360 or PS3. Not even close. Hell, if I'm completely wrong, then I will swallow my words easily. Then again, it's not up to me to decide, it's up to the gamer masses.

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #64 on: June 07, 2011, 08:03:54 PM »
... Will the same level of games be coming out for the WiiU as the other two consoles? I don't know. I DO know that if the console is that freakin small, I would want to know what type of nano hardware can fit in that little box of a console that would surpass both of the other systems. ...

don't underestimate size.  Nintendo leaves the transformers outside the console which helps in size.  Also Laptops can fit a ton of power in small sizes.  If the air flow is correct and to the right places size means little.

What we really have to worry about is 3rd party support like always.

I can't wait to see the support ps vita truly gets because I hate 3d and have learned to not trust what is advertised.

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #65 on: June 07, 2011, 08:30:53 PM »
Jesus Christ, some of these CEOs need to learn some proper English. Especially the Ubisoft CEO, Yves Guillemot, there's others too, of course, but I'm watching the GTTV stream although I am a bit behind it, and he's in it. Awesome job they're doing, by the way. Really exiting to follow their stream.

Translation for the Japanese guys also needs to be done better, I don't want them talking at the same time, it's distracting. The best way to do translation is for the foreign guy to say his stuff, and then for the translator to translate. It's very distracting to have both talking their mouth off.

I'm personally hoping to see a bit more Arkham City. It would be great.

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2011, 12:27:16 PM »
Console gamers hated - hated - the xbox controller and expressed the same doubts you express now over the next Nintendo controller about the 360 controller. It still looked clunky, it still looked too big, it still looked stupid. All of these things were being said some 6-7 years ago.

Did you watch ANY of the conference? Did you miss the various developers talking about their games being released on the new Nintendo console? Battlefield, Assassins Creed, and the entire EA sports lineup just names a few already "signed on" to the system.

Significantly lower level of graphics? In comparison to what - the unnamed and unseen future consoles that will not be released within a year of the new Nintendo console? It will be the top dog on graphics and processing power when it comes out and will continue to be for the following 9-15 months until Microsoft and/or Sony releases their next console. The hardcore gaming community does not wait - they purchase.

This new console is Nintendo's attempt to grab back some of the "hardcore" (read: FPS junkies) gamers back. They will have the graphics. They will have a nifty new controller system that Microsoft and Sony will attempt to copy (just like the Wii mote) and they will have the upper hand in 5-7 years when they roll out their next console because they acted first.

Sony or Microsoft will have to unveil something out of left field to get the momentum back just like Nintendo did with the Wii.

I think the only true concern over the next Nintendo console is the highly unacceptable Nintendo wifi network - though Nintendo is claiming their network will be up to snuff with Sony and Microsoft. The question is, will it remain free?

Did YOU watch any of the conference?

I saw a bunch of developers say that there will be games on the WiiU. What I also saw was a Killzone Tech demo all over again and they showed footage of Xbox 360 and PS3 and PC games acting like the WiiU can do this as well. Signing on to a system means Nintendo is or has already sent you a SDK. Will the same level of games be coming out for the WiiU as the other two consoles? I don't know. I DO know that if the console is that freakin small, I would want to know what type of nano hardware can fit in that little box of a console that would surpass both of the other systems. As for the backwards compatibility issue, is the hardware similar to the Wii with just higher spec numbers? OR is it software backwards compatible?

All in all, from what I got from the conference is that it will not surpass the 360 or PS3. Not even close. Hell, if I'm completely wrong, then I will swallow my words easily. Then again, it's not up to me to decide, it's up to the gamer masses.

It's all prototype - they have clearly stated they haven't finalized the design of the console or the controller (though apparently the controller is most likely going to be what we saw at E3).

I can't argue with you over the specifics of the internal hardware - nobody can (if they say they can they're lying) - but look at the future Zelda (not Skyward Swords, the one people played a bit of at E3 on the Wii U) and tell me that's not HD. The graphics displayed on any and every demonstration they displayed could not be rendered by the Wii - they just couldn't.

I'm sorry, buddy, but you're going to have to swallow this one eventually. Hold on for dear life until the hardware specifications are announced, if you like, but it wouldn't make sense if Nintendo did not strike with a powerhouse console. Their entire gameplan wouldn't work if this console was not technically superior to the PS3 and the 360. Hell, why would developers who have worked with the thing already come out in interviews claiming it was "far more powerful" (though that is up for interpretation until we see specs)?

As I stated before - will Sony and Microsoft strike back in a year or so with something more akin to a PC with a controller? Certainly. But they've lost a year of business. EA games would not sign on with Nintendo if it didn't have a console that could render HD graphics - EA games sells games based on graphics alone.


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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #67 on: June 08, 2011, 01:20:03 PM »
Quick shots – Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker gets shown in HD. Peace Walker will come part of the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, which launches on PS3 and 360 this November. Seems like it's not a PS3 exclusive. WTF Kojima.

Cryptic puts Neverwinter site live, issues E3 teaser. MMO by Cryptic releasing this winter.


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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #68 on: June 08, 2011, 01:26:06 PM »
Quick shots – Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker gets shown in HD. Peace Walker will come part of the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, which launches on PS3 and 360 this November. Seems like it's not a PS3 exclusive. WTF Kojima.

Cryptic puts Neverwinter site live, issues E3 teaser. MMO by Cryptic releasing this winter.

Hot damn, a Neverwinter MMO. I reserve my excitement, but it's still there.


***EDIT*** Also, on the subject on the Wii U again, 3rd party games of the "hardcore" variety have been confirmed for the Wii U. They include: Darksiders II, Tekken, Assassin's Creed, Ninja Gaiden 3, and more. Unless, of course, IGN is mistaken.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/117/1173538p1.html
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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #69 on: June 08, 2011, 03:04:17 PM »
Quick shots – Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker gets shown in HD. Peace Walker will come part of the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, which launches on PS3 and 360 this November. Seems like it's not a PS3 exclusive. WTF Kojima.

Cryptic puts Neverwinter site live, issues E3 teaser. MMO by Cryptic releasing this winter.

Hot damn, a Neverwinter MMO. I reserve my excitement, but it's still there.


***EDIT*** Also, on the subject on the Wii U again, 3rd party games of the "hardcore" variety have been confirmed for the Wii U. They include: Darksiders II, Tekken, Assassin's Creed, Ninja Gaiden 3, and more. Unless, of course, IGN is mistaken.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/117/1173538p1.html

Neverwinter MMO? So now the "next" gen MMOs are as follows: Blizzard's Titan MMO, Star Wars TOR, GW2, and NW MMO. There definitely is some choice in there... assuming Titan is either a Starcraft based MMO OR if it's fantasy again, there still is two fantasy driven MMOs (which I'm sure some people are sick of). I know I'm getting TOR from day one... but depending on what "Titan" really is, it would be awesome if that was Starcraft driven. Instead of 2 factions, there will be 3 (unless they only stick to two and make the Zerg the over arching "main" enemy like the Burning Legion or the Lich King) factions to contend with. My only worry with that is the ability to make a lot of class distinctions and specialization of those classes. Either way, I'm definitely interested in what Blizz has to offer with Titan.

Now the WiiU needs a seller title to make the systems fly off the selves (ex a Halo and/or Uncharted game). Zelda is great, sure... but there is a point when milking the same first party IP for 25 fucking years. MS is really pushing it with Halo's 4, 5, & 6... which are actually Halos 6, 7, & 8. Uncharted is at an ok level with the 3rd one, but CoD had definitely been milked way past the death of the cow. Don't get me wrong, I love CoD and I will definitely get MW3... it's just Activision needs a diffferent power house hitter. This is why I'm ALSO looking forward to BF3 (cause come on people, don't try and defend Bad Company, they weren't as good as BF2 was at all) since that looks like a brand new engine and really looks like a fun game to play online.

Oh yeah, and they need to get rid of this friend code thing. I want to play with people from around the world... not the fucking people of PA.

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #70 on: June 08, 2011, 03:51:40 PM »
New Dark Souls demo + interview. Even though there's not a HD video the graphics look refined and amazing. October 4th needs to hurry up.

The online play will be what I'm looking forward to and how they revamp it.
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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #72 on: June 08, 2011, 10:09:38 PM »
I was really relieved when I read that the Wii U controller would be single-touch. Like a lot of people, the price of the controller made me skeptical, but since it's single-touch, I doubt it will cost more than 100$ here. I suppose Americans will get them for ~60$.

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #73 on: June 08, 2011, 10:30:24 PM »
I was really relieved when I read that the Wii U controller would be single-touch. Like a lot of people, the price of the controller made me skeptical, but since it's single-touch, I doubt it will cost more than 100$ here. I suppose Americans will get them for ~60$.

Wrong. A PS3 controller is still $55. That controller with all that it has will ATLEAST be $150, even with a single touch screen. I do understand that having multi-touch would make it more expensive, but most touch screen devices sold today DO have multi-touch.

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Yes, the visuals are going to be beautiful – we showed just a smattering of what we can do – but what will make it new, unique, different is going to be the controller.”

He better deliver on that visuals part, because if it can deliver on great visuals... it will deliver on gameplay dynamics and physics that the PS3 and 360 both have, then it will be on par with them (if not surpass). The controller on the other hand is an after thought in my mind. The only think it can really do for me (which I honestly will buy this WiiU if this will be implemented) is that you can play an MMO on this.

Think about it, imagine playing WoW or another MMO with that controller. You move around with the two joysticks, you select targets with the aiming mechanic of the target and pull one of the trigger or bumpers... and best of all... you can have all of your ten to twenty abilities right on the screen for you to select. Wouldn't that really bring in hardcore gamers then?

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #74 on: June 09, 2011, 12:52:33 PM »
E3: Undivided House – SCEE boss open and optimistic.

It’s an aggressive approach to cost reduction, which is obviously a priority for the consumer electronics industry and has been historically, and you’re seeing evidence of that, as I said, with the 3D monitor that we announced. To me, any perceived resistance towards glasses has to be counterbalanced with a real tangible entertainment benefit. Speaking personally, I think the idea of being able to remove split-screen and have a sort of dual view via glasses – that’s pretty magical if you’re a gamer, particularly if you’re into first-person shooters.

Yes, glasses are necessary for the 3D experience. From what we understand at least, I don’t think a glasses-free solution is terribly feasible, at least in the short term, but if there’s a very cool entertainment benefit to having them, hopefully people will put them on.


So PS4 is going to be 300-400 dollars too, yes? Not 400+? ... Okay?

Clearly Nintendo feels the same way. Do you think that’s going to be a battleground? Do you think the Wii U and the connectivity between Vita and PS3 will be seen as an equivalent feature?

I don’t think I understand the Wii U proposition sufficiently to be able to answer that question.

Does anybody?

You just made my day!


Lol, yea I'm not purchasing Wii U. I'll invest my money in PS Vita.

E3: Xbox UK’s McGill: ‘We’ll never leave the core behind’. Interesting read. They need more original 1st party games thou.

“Gears of War is massive. Forza is massive. Halo is massive. These franchises outsell PlayStation’s first-party lineup.” -- Halo is expected. Gear is second ... but Forza? Fucking seriously? ... I lol'd.


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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2011, 04:57:37 PM »
“Gears of War is massive. Forza is massive. Halo is massive. These franchises outsell PlayStation’s first-party lineup.” -- Halo is expected. Gear is second ... but Forza? Fucking seriously? ... I lol'd.

I lol'd at the whole thing. Halo got old after the 3rd game and I don't understand why people are so excited for the 6th one now. Gears of War is one of the great exclusives that I'm sad to not see on the PS3. Funny thing is, Gears isn't a first party game yet he's saying that it is. So if he thinks those three games that only Xbox 360 has outsells Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Killzone, God of War, Little Big Planet, AND Resistance. Wait, doesn't that mean the PS3's lineup is more diverse? The Xbox 360 has a shooter, a shooter (which isn't even a first party game), and a racing game. The PS3 has an adventure/platformer, adventure/shooter, shooter, adventure/hack&slash, platformer, and shooter... all of which ARE first party games. So is he talking out of his ass? Maybe a little bit.  ::)

Anyways, I reserved my copies of Shadow of Colossus & ICO, MW3, and BF3 all yesterday. It seems anyone I talk to about the two latter games agrees that BF3 looks better than MW3. Here's to hoping!

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2011, 07:11:21 PM »
“Gears of War is massive. Forza is massive. Halo is massive. These franchises outsell PlayStation’s first-party lineup.” -- Halo is expected. Gear is second ... but Forza? Fucking seriously? ... I lol'd.

I lol'd at the whole thing. Halo got old after the 3rd game and I don't understand why people are so excited for the 6th one now. Gears of War is one of the great exclusives that I'm sad to not see on the PS3. Funny thing is, Gears isn't a first party game yet he's saying that it is. So if he thinks those three games that only Xbox 360 has outsells Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Killzone, God of War, Little Big Planet, AND Resistance. Wait, doesn't that mean the PS3's lineup is more diverse? The Xbox 360 has a shooter, a shooter (which isn't even a first party game), and a racing game. The PS3 has an adventure/platformer, adventure/shooter, shooter, adventure/hack&slash, platformer, and shooter... all of which ARE first party games. So is he talking out of his ass? Maybe a little bit.  ::)

Anyways, I reserved my copies of Shadow of Colossus & ICO, MW3, and BF3 all yesterday. It seems anyone I talk to about the two latter games agrees that BF3 looks better than MW3. Here's to hoping!
PS3 has a lot more exclusives than what the 360 can dream about and more creativity for fuck sakes. Halo is either hardcore gamers, fans or biased players - and of course the majority of them are kids. Gears I have nothing to say, it is a good game. Forza 3 only sold 4.8 million copies in a span of a year and 2 months, while GT5 sold over 6 million in four months - as of March 2011. So what was that again Microsoft? Spat your shit somewhere else and eff it. Oh yea ... Did you read what they said when they asked them about PS3 and PS Vita having 3D capabilities and what about Xbox 360?

Speaking of new stuff, Sony’s hopping aboard the 3D bandwagon and showing no signs of looking back. They’ve even got a PlayStation-branded 3D TV bundle, which is apparently “affordable” for people who drive gold-plated rocket cars. Is 3D something you’re hoping to really push with the Xbox as well? Do you think 3D’s the next HD, or is it just a passing trend?

I’m not going to speculate where the market will go over the next couple years. But from the 3D point-of-view, I think it’s up to consumers to choose what they want.

“Gears of War is massive. Forza is massive. Halo is massive. These franchises outsell PlayStation’s first-party lineup.”

The Xbox 360 does 3D. It has for a long time. If developers want to do 3D, they can. So it’s not a case of “Xbox isn’t doing 3D.” We do it. It’s down to developers to decide what’s right for their particular game and story. So that’s a choice. And it just so happens that with the franchises we’ve got, it’s not what we’re about at all. But the choice is there for developers absolutely.


I haven't been keeping up with 360's market. Are there any 3D games that are "worth" playing on the 360? ..... And since when the 360 can do 3D for a long time? ....

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Sony: “A lot more headroom left” in PS3, says it’s not “slipping behind the times”.

Half of Soul Calibur V’s roster will be new fighters.

Far Cry 3: Watch the E3 demo here.

Quick Shots: New screens of Uncharted 3 finally released - ... Wow ... <3 Uncharted!

The Walking Dead to be based on comic series, star man and little girl -- Really cool new game. Seems like it's only on PC. Check out the story through the link.

Quick Shots – Silent Hill: Downpour shots show more gloom and doom.
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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #77 on: June 09, 2011, 07:19:49 PM »
I haven't been keeping up with 360's market. Are there any 3D games that are "worth" playing on the 360? ..... And since when the 360 can do 3D for a long time? ....

Xbox 360 3D game list:
http://www.3dtested.com/3d-xbox-360-games-list/

PS3 3D game list:
http://www.3dtested.com/3d-ps3-games-list/

As you can see, a lot more games. In terms of actual games worth playing on each system? I have no idea. I do plan on getting that $500 3D TV deal if no other companies are going to be pushing for developing glasses-less 3D TVs in the next 2 years or so.

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #78 on: June 09, 2011, 09:13:54 PM »
I was really relieved when I read that the Wii U controller would be single-touch. Like a lot of people, the price of the controller made me skeptical, but since it's single-touch, I doubt it will cost more than 100$ here. I suppose Americans will get them for ~60$.

Wrong. A PS3 controller is still $55. That controller with all that it has will ATLEAST be $150, even with a single touch screen. I do understand that having multi-touch would make it more expensive, but most touch screen devices sold today DO have multi-touch.
Wrong? What's wrong?
Is me doubting I will have to pay more than 100$ wrong? I don't see how a doubt can be wrong...
Is me supposing that americans will get it for around 60$ wrong? How do you know? THINK before you speak(type).

I see portable dvd players with 2 screens go for 100$ here. The Wii U will come out in one and a half year(that's a long time in tech), and it's only one screen. Sure, it's got a weak camera, and it's an old tech touch-screen, but I still see it costing 100$ or less for me.

Because I feel like it.

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Re: E3 of 2011 [6.7.2011]
« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2011, 09:27:36 PM »
I was really relieved when I read that the Wii U controller would be single-touch. Like a lot of people, the price of the controller made me skeptical, but since it's single-touch, I doubt it will cost more than 100$ here. I suppose Americans will get them for ~60$.

Wrong. A PS3 controller is still $55. That controller with all that it has will ATLEAST be $150, even with a single touch screen. I do understand that having multi-touch would make it more expensive, but most touch screen devices sold today DO have multi-touch.
Wrong? What's wrong?
Is me doubting I will have to pay more than 100$ wrong? I don't see how a doubt can be wrong...
Is me supposing that americans will get it for around 60$ wrong? How do you know? THINK before you speak(type).

I see portable dvd players with 2 screens go for 100$ here. The Wii U will come out in one and a half year(that's a long time in tech), and it's only one screen. Sure, it's got a weak camera, and it's an old tech touch-screen, but I still see it costing 100$ or less for me.

Learn to read. If a PS3 controller is still $55... I'm pretty sure Nintendo is gonna sell a controller with a TOUCH screen in it for under $100 ANYWHERE. My thoughts were as clear as a sunny day. If you think so otherwise, prove it with... OH WAIT... you can't. Neither can I prove my point, but at least it's safe to say they won't sell that controller for under $100.