23,322 Bittorrent users are being sued for downloading the worst movie...

[Stsin]

It just makes it harder to prosecute.  Doesn't void such cases that use IP.  From the last paragraph of your link:
"While Judge Baker’s decision will make it harder for copyright owners and their organizations to take a “guilty until proven innocent” approach, there’s another lesson here too. You need to secure your Wi-Fi connection. Sure, anyone piggy-backing on your Wi-Fi connection is probably just using it to check their e-mail, but there’s that one time in a thousand where they may be doing some illegal and it will be you, not them, explaining to a court that it wasn’t you who downloaded am illegal copy of The Hurt Locker."

And this judge thinks differently:
"During the course of the year many of the defendants in the Hurt Locker case who were already subpoenaed have claimed innocence. However, last week Judge Howell decided to dismiss all 119 motions to dismiss, quash, and for protective orders en masse, adding them to the pool of targets."

[mgz]

eh, sucks for them thankfully they need a state supreme court subpoena to get my info from an ip go jersey

[mrx168]

With my old ISP, I used to get one of those warning email crap from some <insert big America movie studio> almost on a monthly basis but by the time I got the email I've around finished downloading it & stopped the torrent ages ago.

Nothing every came out of it.

Now with my new ISP, I think they don't even bother forwarding such notices to me & just threw them straight in the bin.

[mgz]

With my old ISP, I used to get one of those warning email crap from some <insert big America movie studio> almost on a monthly basis but by the time I got the email I've around finished downloading it & stopped the torrent ages ago.

Nothing every came out of it.

Now with my new ISP, I think they don't even bother forwarding such notices to me & just threw them straight in the bin.

if your state side your likely lying, as the isps sent those letters and if they sent 3 or so they shut your ass down to cover their own ass in fear

[Burkingam]

With my old ISP, I used to get one of those warning email crap from some <insert big America movie studio> almost on a monthly basis but by the time I got the email I've around finished downloading it & stopped the torrent ages ago.

Nothing every came out of it.

Now with my new ISP, I think they don't even bother forwarding such notices to me & just threw them straight in the bin.

if your state side your likely lying, as the isps sent those letters and if they sent 3 or so they shut your ass down to cover their own ass in fear

I work for a canadien ISP. No, they don't close any account for that. They just send a notice and nothing else. No need to loose a costumer. And yes the warnings are usually from the americans.

[Freedom Kira]

I work for a canadien ISP.

What are you, a Quebecker?

[kitamesume]

is there any law that could be used to suck up money from the suers for wasting my time? lawls.

[mrx168]

if your state side your likely lying, as the isps sent those letters and if they sent 3 or so they shut your ass down to cover their own ass in fear
[/quote]

I'm not in the US, I'm in Australia & here most ISPs don't give too care too much. There are some particular ISPs that will ban you if they receive a certain amount copyrightght notices, however those are their own policy & not across the board.

In fact not too long ago, one of our major ISP (the one I'm currently with) was sued by some mcompany'spanys for coprybull craplcrap but the ISP won the case.

Source:
http://www.thenewlawyer.com.au/article/iiNet-wins-court-battle-with-Hollywood/528103.aspx

[AnimeJanai]

If you went to court, you would probably win simply because the IP lists have always been full of errors.  Since the lawyers know it would cost you a small fortune to defend your rights, almost no one will take it to court and simply pay the $2000 to $4000 to make the greenmail attempt go away.   Below are two well-written articles on the problem of lawyers raking in the cash by just sitting in a swarm collecting IP addresses and then subpoening the ISP for user addresses to send the threat letter to.  It shows how cynical the lawyers are about justice vs making money.

Article #1: http://boingboing.net/2011/08/11/porn-privacy-and-bittorrent-seattle-weekly-on-case-of-blind-man-accused-of-viewing-pilfered-adult-flicks.html

Article #2: http://www.seattleweekly.com/2011-08-17/news/how-to-handle-a-bittorrent-lawsuit/

Background:  http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/08/what_to_do_if_you_receive_a_bittorrent_john_doe_lawsuit_letter.php

[tomoya-kun]

My old ISP sent me a letter and I dropped them after receiving it.  Bad for business.

[Mistgun_Zero]

over 23K people downloaded that movie? It's not even worth getting for free. They are most likely doing this because they haven't made enough money to cover the cost of production.

That's true, afterall they are even ready to get $2000 in place of $150,000. I am sure they are ready to bargain!! 

Hmm, so bittorrent is safe for american movies, what about utorrent? and i don't live in US, so my chances of getting caught are low right?

[metro.]

I work for a canadien ISP.

What are you, a Quebecker?

I believe the term is Quebecois.

over 23K people downloaded that movie? It's not even worth getting for free. They are most likely doing this because they haven't made enough money to cover the cost of production.

That's true, afterall they are even ready to get $2000 in place of $150,000. I am sure they are ready to bargain!! 

Hmm, so bittorrent is safe for american movies, what about utorrent? and i don't live in US, so my chances of getting caught are low right?

It's not the client you use, they typically track the torrent file itself when they attempt to seize sites. Of course now torrent sites are getting smarter so they're trying to subpoena ISP records but then the whole privacy thing comes up.
If you're not in the US your chances are lower because international law is a punch in a dick to navigate, typically.
Of course if you get content made in your country you could run into a problem. Some countries just arrest first ask questions later in terms of illegal downloading, but that's a country by country basis.

[AnimeJanai]

This stuff can also be scammed.

If someone can get their personal lawyer to fool the ISP and get the addresses of users affiliated with the list of IP addresses, a fake lawyer letter can then be sent to each of those people requesting the $2500 to $5000 fee.  Since users are not going to call the RIAA up to cross-verify, and the RIAA would not tell them anything anyways, it is difficult to know what is what.

Meanwhile, the scammer collects your fee due to your fear or beta attitude towards the Bill of Rights.

[TMRNetShark]

This stuff can also be scammed.

If someone can get their personal lawyer to fool the ISP and get the addresses of users affiliated with the list of IP addresses, a fake lawyer letter can then be sent to each of those people requesting the $2500 to $5000 fee.  Since users are not going to call the RIAA up to cross-verify, and the RIAA would not tell them anything anyways, it is difficult to know what is what.

Meanwhile, the scammer collects your fee due to your fear or beta attitude towards the Bill of Rights.

Wow, I never thought of it like that. I wonder if anyone has actually tried to do this yet. Then again, the lawyers are quite liable if they are caught. Then again, just packet sniff your entire neighborhood and start fake suing.

[kitamesume]

This stuff can also be scammed.

If someone can get their personal lawyer to fool the ISP and get the addresses of users affiliated with the list of IP addresses, a fake lawyer letter can then be sent to each of those people requesting the $2500 to $5000 fee.  Since users are not going to call the RIAA up to cross-verify, and the RIAA would not tell them anything anyways, it is difficult to know what is what.

Meanwhile, the scammer collects your fee due to your fear or beta attitude towards the Bill of Rights.

thats some interesting stuff...

[Freedom Kira]

This stuff can also be scammed.

If someone can get their personal lawyer to fool the ISP and get the addresses of users affiliated with the list of IP addresses, a fake lawyer letter can then be sent to each of those people requesting the $2500 to $5000 fee.  Since users are not going to call the RIAA up to cross-verify, and the RIAA would not tell them anything anyways, it is difficult to know what is what.

Meanwhile, the scammer collects your fee due to your fear or beta attitude towards the Bill of Rights.

That reminds me of the guy who earned a few grand by posting an ad saying "last chance to send in your dollar!" in the newspaper.

[Supai]

I liked The Expendables.

[metro.]

Kinda reminds me of some guy that conned an Ivy League university out of a full ride all the way up until his last year of his Ph.D, at that point you almost should just give it to the guy, damn.

[AnimeJanai]

The scam method involves running a bittorrent client on one of the hollywood movies being downloaded.  You collect a bunch of IP addresses that you know were downloading the movie.  That is important, because a random fake lawyer letter is convincing when it lists the name of the downloaded movie and the victim knows full well that s/he was torrenting that movie.    That's what clinches the deal and gets the fear factor going in the victim.  If the victim has a corporate job, chances are they will not risk that job because many such jobs have a behaviour clause in the contract.  That lets the corporation justifiably fire someone (as well as revoke or reverse company matching contributions for cause) under more beneficial terms than a normal firing or layoff.  In such cases, state law may cover such (like in florida) where one might lose eligibility for unemployment compensation, worker retraining, state funded grants for retraining of newly unemployed workers, and COBRA medical coverage.  In my state, you would lose all scholarship eligibility of any kind from any school that the state provides funds to which happens to be almost all of them.    Knowing that, the corporate worker has a high chance of paying it off after he gets the second letter warning that a court case may involve investigation of all internet access records including those at the employer.  Just mention employer a few times in the letter and the victim will shat some bricks.