Oh geez ... new MMO by Square-Enix

[Tatsujin]

Square Enix to announce new MMO before 2012. So is it going to be a fuck-ton of grind whore MMO and will feature the ZOMG turn-base battle system? Seriously man ... Need a new freaking MMO that's unique and not-so-WoW-like.

[mgz]

Square Enix to announce new MMO before 2012. So is it going to be a fuck-ton of grind whore MMO and will feature the ZOMG turn-base battle system? Seriously man ... Need a new freaking MMO that's unique and not-so-WoW-like.

but wow isnt turn based

[newy]

TERA

Action combat > static button smashing

[Sakubo]

Square Enix to announce new MMO before 2012. So is it going to be a fuck-ton of grind whore MMO and will feature the ZOMG turn-base battle system? Seriously man ... Need a new freaking MMO that's unique and not-so-WoW-like.

but wow isnt turn based

Wow is actutally turned based. It just so happens it uses an active turned based system instead of a wait one. Just look at the way the combat log works. You use skills you swing attacks based on the stanad turn based system. The only diffference is its not like old turned based games where you are waiting on the enemy instead you are using an active battle system where you and your opponent each act out your turns without waiting on each other. Think about how autoattack works. You arent actually auto attacking. The game is just trigging the attacks based on your weapon speed ie when its your turn automatically.

[Sosseres]

Wow is actutally turned based. It just so happens it uses an active turned based system instead of a wait one. Just look at the way the combat log works. You use skills you swing attacks based on the stanad turn based system. The only diffference is its not like old turned based games where you are waiting on the enemy instead you are using an active battle system where you and your opponent each act out your turns without waiting on each other. Think about how autoattack works. You arent actually auto attacking. The game is just trigging the attacks based on your weapon speed ie when its your turn automatically.

An easy way to see this would be to go into Baldur's Gate II and play with or without pause. It works basically the same way as the wow system (without the global cooldown).

[Stsin]

After Final Fantasy XIV, they've proven that have a long long ways to go, and how out of touch they are to even release that in beta.  Any MMO player could have predicted that it was fail.  I tried playing an hour on it with a friends account, and just wanted to quit to never look back.  IMO, they were relying on name alone.

Well, I'm sure they are going to use one of the latest engines.  But won't be enough.  I expect more failures before making an MMO worthwhile.

I bet they are upset that a game like Rift is doing okay, without nearly as much invested.  It all has to do with good devs and being in touch with the players.  BTW, Rift are doing free character transfers... unlike Bliz which rapes the players for such services.

[TMRNetShark]

There needs to be more console MMOs. Before anyone is like "You need a keyboard for an MMO!" both the Xbox 360 and PS3 accepts keyboards and wouldn't be a problem for people to spend an extra $20 to get one if a console MMO came out.

[Sakubo]

There needs to be more console MMOs. Before anyone is like "You need a keyboard for an MMO!" both the Xbox 360 and PS3 accepts keyboards and wouldn't be a problem for people to spend an extra $20 to get one if a console MMO came out.

Honestly you dont need even need to type if you use voice chat. I mean if all the players in the game were using voicechat then playing on a keyboard wouldnt really matter other than maybe keybindings but most controllers would be easy enough to set up for that to. The problem is most poeple that play mmos relay on text to talk and speak with players so it hinders playing them on a console. I mean even if you buy a keyboard for the xbox 360 or ps3 how many actually have a spot set up where they play there game system at a table or something where they would have a place to put a keyboard for typing.

[Stsin]

There needs to be more console MMOs. Before anyone is like "You need a keyboard for an MMO!" both the Xbox 360 and PS3 accepts keyboards and wouldn't be a problem for people to spend an extra $20 to get one if a console MMO came out.

The fear of most PC users is a console port.  Many feel the game with be toned down to be playable on both.  Not just with hardware specs, but a gui made for a controller.

The MMO I'm looking forward to is Blade & Soul.  Even though I may use a console controller for it, the specs are up there:

[Recommended]
CPU: Intel Quad core/AMD Phenom II X4 or better
RAM: 4G or better
VGA: nVidia Geforce 8800GTX / AMD Radeon HD4850 or better
HDD: 15GB
OS: Windows XP (Service pack 2), Vista, Win7 (64bit)
DirectX: 9.0c

IMO, Recommended specs = Playable.  I'll have to upgrade my system before it comes out.

As for MMOs without turn based actions, it will give a huge advantage to those with low latency..alienating a huge base from feeling competitive.  And will surely invite speedhacks.

[zat0x91]

Blade and Soul isn't really an MMO from what people have seen from the beta.  Since most of the game is solo play, but there is some interaction with other players.

TERA

Action combat > static button smashing

This.  

This is the only MMO I'm looking forward for; RIFT and Guild Wars 2 are a joke compared to it.  I've already played Korean retail for a month, but considering it's costs $25 each month to get it through shady gold selling site, I can't keep it up.

[newy]

I don't know how the system's going be for the NA version of TERA but the European one will have a monthly fee (amount unknown as of yet). I'm definitely interested in it (especially because of the combat system!!!) but I think I'll wait for a few tests to see whether it's worth it and not an Asia grinder like Aion was for a while.

[Soryon]

Need a new freaking MMO that's unique and not-so-WoW-like.

But WoW wasnt unique either.

Anyway, I might give it a shot, I have been a fan a Square-Enix for a long time now with their older games, cant say much about any of their MMOs tho, tbh.... But I have reservations about picking up another grind game so I will see how it looks when it drops.

[mgz]

Square Enix to announce new MMO before 2012. So is it going to be a fuck-ton of grind whore MMO and will feature the ZOMG turn-base battle system? Seriously man ... Need a new freaking MMO that's unique and not-so-WoW-like.

but wow isnt turn based

Wow is actutally turned based. It just so happens it uses an active turned based system instead of a wait one. Just look at the way the combat log works. You use skills you swing attacks based on the stanad turn based system. The only diffference is its not like old turned based games where you are waiting on the enemy instead you are using an active battle system where you and your opponent each act out your turns without waiting on each other. Think about how autoattack works. You arent actually auto attacking. The game is just trigging the attacks based on your weapon speed ie when its your turn automatically.

except you can do things that arent auto attack that arent in the same timing.

Thats like saying that CoD is turn based because the guns fire at a set rate and each bullet you shoot is your turn... its active combat turned based blah blah blah

[zat0x91]

but I think I'll wait for a few tests to see whether it's worth it and not an Asia grinder like Aion was for a while.

Even in KR retail it's still nothing compared to Aion.  I'm currently playing Aion...  Shortly there's an upcoming 2.5 patch which updates the graphics engine to what was shown in the Aion Vision trailer and adds additional content.

So far it seems a good between of WoW and Aion since I hit level 22 in a day as a Slayer and other players have said that it only takes around two weeks if you put in ~4 hours every day to hit level cap.  There's a shit-ton of quests and many others can agree with that.  

They're "westernizing" (includes minor censorship of the a certain class ) the game for NA/EU release and I guess part of that is decreasing the time it's needed to level and making it more accessible.  I didn't even have a problem even with the game being in Korean, just click on whatever is blue on your quest log and it's on your map.

[fohfoh]

Square-Enix needs to stop making RPGs or MMOs or whatever and maybe consider moving into horror.

Or someone for that matter needs to create a proper horror game.

Also, it would be nice to find a game that helps to teach micro/macro management on maps of sorts. Something like "last guy" but more complex.

[TMRNetShark]

Square-Enix needs to stop making RPGs or MMOs or whatever and maybe consider moving into horror.

Or someone for that matter needs to create a proper horror game.

Also, it would be nice to find a game that helps to teach micro/macro management on maps of sorts. Something like "last guy" but more complex.

Ever hear of a game called Dead Space? Quite a good horror game. Amnesia was another good game that would fill a "horror" hole.


Hehe... horror hole... just like blue waffle. 

[zat0x91]

Dead Space is just action and cheap scares like random loud noises.  Amnesia was pretty solid, but sadly short.

[AceHigh]

Just by looking at the picture of the game on that site makes me want to vomit.

[fohfoh]

Played Dead Space. Quite fun. Good example of those type of games. But not really the same type of horror from the past.

Amnesia, I haven't played. Though Penumbra wasn't bad. I meant for more horrors on consoles. I can't even believe that it didn't have a section on the PSN network.

Alan Wake is another interesting title to add to the fray.

Each were too short. Each were quite fun.

A long title is not possible... I understand that. Maybe a horror with multiple stories that can be played out of sequence? Sort of like the worlds idea from Demons Souls.

[mgz]

Played Dead Space. Quite fun. Good example of those type of games. But not really the same type of horror from the past.

Amnesia, I haven't played. Though Penumbra wasn't bad. I meant for more horrors on consoles. I can't even believe that it didn't have a section on the PSN network.

Alan Wake is another interesting title to add to the fray.

Each were too short. Each were quite fun.

A long title is not possible... I understand that. Maybe a horror with multiple stories that can be played out of sequence? Sort of like the worlds idea from Demons Souls.

well there is the other episodes for alan wake but who the fuck wants to shell out another 60$ for shit that should have been in the game to begin with.

Hey i bought ff7 but had to pay 20$ extra for each disk after the first. They called it dlc ...

thats what developers do now and its fucking hideous