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Re: PlayStation 4
« Reply #800 on: November 02, 2013, 03:52:59 PM »
And barely zero multimedia playback functions, no MP3 no CD no DLNA, well fuck it man.
Yeah Sony, way to go, make yourself look like a hero in the beginning and now come back to bite us.

Who still plays music through their PS3? :/

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« Reply #801 on: November 02, 2013, 03:56:44 PM »
And barely zero multimedia playback functions, no MP3 no CD no DLNA, well fuck it man.
Yeah Sony, way to go, make yourself look like a hero in the beginning and now come back to bite us.
You play music on your PS3? Rather, your console? ..................


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« Reply #802 on: November 02, 2013, 04:04:19 PM »
I though Yoshida said no DLNA and MP3 support at launch, it might be added later on. As for the CDs, aren't disc based media becoming obsolete? And if you want to play music CDs, even average radios at least have 2 CD drives/ a CD changer, which would extend the somewhat limited amount of music on one CD. The only Multimedia function I'll need form my PS is the BD-drive.

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« Reply #803 on: November 02, 2013, 04:18:32 PM »
I though Yoshida said no DLNA and MP3 support at launch, it might be added later on. As for the CDs, aren't disc based media becoming obsolete? And if you want to play music CDs, even average radios at least have 2 CD drives/ a CD changer, which would extend the somewhat limited amount of music on one CD. The only Multimedia function I'll need form my PS is the BD-drive.
I play my music through my computer. I have a high-end sound card and a nice pro stereo headphones. Plus, I'm getting a switch for optical connections (up to 4) so I can switch between my PC, PS3 and PS4.

I'd rather fill my PS4 with useful data rather than music that I already have on my computer.


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Re: PlayStation 4
« Reply #804 on: November 02, 2013, 05:12:29 PM »
I though Yoshida said no DLNA and MP3 support at launch, it might be added later on. As for the CDs, aren't disc based media becoming obsolete? And if you want to play music CDs, even average radios at least have 2 CD drives/ a CD changer, which would extend the somewhat limited amount of music on one CD. The only Multimedia function I'll need form my PS is the BD-drive.

Personally, I call bs on CDs disappearing. They've weathered a LONG time and physical media will never fully die. The Vinyl revival is proof of that. So much is lost when it just becomes a few files you're given permission to access; the liner notes, artwork and the care that went into the other aspects of the package. I love the way The Ocean layered perspex in their release, or the manner Mastodon made a fold out digipack. Hell, I have a Naivepop and Petitfool album that's wrapped in a god damn cloth. Collectors will always exist, and collectors will always favour physical media over files.

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« Reply #805 on: November 02, 2013, 06:10:29 PM »
I'm not saying that the CD will die I'm saying that every household usually already has better options for playing them. Most people will use their PS4 with teh TVinternal speakers, and that's no way to enjoy music imo. Even my over 20year old stereo in berlin sounds better than most TV internal speakers (note I found one TV with pretty good speakers, but that one is a UHD screen that costs 8k€)

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« Reply #806 on: November 02, 2013, 08:42:40 PM »
I'm not saying that the CD will die I'm saying that every household usually already has better options for playing them. Most people will use their PS4 with teh TVinternal speakers, and that's no way to enjoy music imo. Even my over 20year old stereo in berlin sounds better than most TV internal speakers (note I found one TV with pretty good speakers, but that one is a UHD screen that costs 8k€)

But most people that have a 1080p screen often have a surround sound system to go with it. With your thought of thinking why even have a 1080p screen if you are not going to get the best dtsma sound quality with it.

Its really a mixed market There is two types of people that buy and use consoles. One being the younger generation that might live at home with parents still or in a small apartment. And only have a nice tv without decent sound. Then you get into the bit older generation that might own there home and have more of a "dedicated media room". I know from my experience When I lived with my parents I watched and listened to almost all my music/media on a pc. Then when I got my first apartment  I started watching more media on a bigger  screen but still kept the PC for music. Then when I finally moved into my own Home. I did a full "media room" to watch and listen to 90% of the stuff. As i got older I found myself stepping more and more away from pc based media player and more into the living room.

Now I have a sonos system for full house music playback, that also plugs into the 7.1 surround if I want to listen in the living room. All movies/tv are watched on the tv with 7.1 sound. Only thing I use a pc for is Anime and only reason is my first gen intel nuc is not enough to run madvr/mpc-hv without dropped frames and I hate the microstutter on 23.976fps content.
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Re: PlayStation 4
« Reply #807 on: November 02, 2013, 09:50:21 PM »
But most people that have a 1080p screen often have a surround sound system to go with it. With your thought of thinking why even have a 1080p screen if you are not going to get the best dtsma sound quality with it.

Its really a mixed market There is two types of people that buy and use consoles. One being the younger generation that might live at home with parents still or in a small apartment. And only have a nice tv without decent sound. Then you get into the bit older generation that might own there home and have more of a "dedicated media room". I know from my experience When I lived with my parents I watched and listened to almost all my music/media on a pc. Then when I got my first apartment  I started watching more media on a bigger  screen but still kept the PC for music. Then when I finally moved into my own Home. I did a full "media room" to watch and listen to 90% of the stuff. As i got older I found myself stepping more and more away from pc based media player and more into the living room.

Now I have a sonos system for full house music playback, that also plugs into the 7.1 surround if I want to listen in the living room. All movies/tv are watched on the tv with 7.1 sound. Only thing I use a pc for is Anime and only reason is my first gen intel nuc is not enough to run madvr/mpc-hv without dropped frames and I hate the microstutter on 23.976fps content.

Don't assume everyone's setup... I, for one, want to have a headset that will work on the PS4... Guess what? There isn't one except for Turtlebeach's stupid Ear Force PX4 that's not even out until the 15th. I really hate Turtlebeach products....

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« Reply #808 on: November 02, 2013, 09:54:41 PM »
My (crappy) solution: reroute sound to my PC, so that it's played on my logitech G930. I can walk around and do stuff while watching BDs, and comfortably skype with friends while playing PS3 games. Since I don't want my friends to be annoyed by crappy quality sounds/movies/animes, I prefer it to be in my HS.

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« Reply #809 on: November 02, 2013, 10:04:25 PM »

Don't assume everyone's setup... I, for one, want to have a headset that will work on the PS4... Guess what? There isn't one except for Turtlebeach's stupid Ear Force PX4 that's not even out until the 15th. I really hate Turtlebeach products....

Was no assumption. As I said there is multiple types of people. Gaming on headphones is great but when you watch say a bluray movie do you use headphones or speakers?

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« Reply #810 on: November 02, 2013, 10:06:37 PM »
^Headphones, i don't want the neighbours to hear the animes I'm watching. The only exception is when I have friends over.

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« Reply #812 on: November 03, 2013, 12:20:19 AM »
Was no assumption. As I said there is multiple types of people. Gaming on headphones is great but when you watch say a bluray movie do you use headphones or speakers?

I have a pair of Sennheiser headphones that play the most beautifully enriched sound that my ears just soak up.

So yeah, headphones.

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« Reply #813 on: November 03, 2013, 12:31:50 AM »
Surround sound is not entirely necessary to me either.


PlayStation 4 videos try to get you excited for next week’s NA launch
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« Reply #814 on: November 07, 2013, 08:40:29 PM »
Two videos you must watch. First one is the complete PS4 design - all unscrewed, taken apart and thoroughly explained. The second video features Mark, Andrew and Shu speaking about how they've come together and assigned Mark to lead the PS4 and a little talk about Knack.

PS4 also features a secondary smaller designed CPU dedicated for low-power withdraw when in stand-by mode. You'll see the full 16 chips for GDDR5 which were essentially placed around the CPU to unleash and take full advantage of the GPU - smart choice over a regular DDR3 memory (eyes Microsoft).

Ah man ... a week and a day until this behemoth console is released.


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« Reply #815 on: November 08, 2013, 01:59:53 AM »
You sound excited. :)

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« Reply #816 on: November 08, 2013, 02:32:42 AM »
I like the modular nature of the parts inside the PS4.

It is very neat inside with no cables dangling about.
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« Reply #817 on: November 08, 2013, 03:32:13 AM »
Two videos you must watch. First one is the complete PS4 design - all unscrewed, taken apart and thoroughly explained. The second video features Mark, Andrew and Shu speaking about how they've come together and assigned Mark to lead the PS4 and a little talk about Knack.

PS4 also features a secondary smaller designed CPU dedicated for low-power withdraw when in stand-by mode. You'll see the full 16 chips for GDDR5 which were essentially placed around the CPU to unleash and take full advantage of the GPU - smart choice over a regular DDR3 memory (eyes Microsoft).

Ah man ... a week and a day until this behemoth console is released.

Almost all ram chips placed such so the length of traces on the PCB are matched: the distance electrons have to travel affects timings.
GDDR5 have much higher latency than normal DDR3 but also higher bandwidth. Suitable for GPU use.
DDR3 have less latency(tighter timings) but also lower bandwidth. Suitable for CPU use.
All you have to do is study it out. Just study it out.


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Re: PlayStation 4
« Reply #819 on: November 09, 2013, 02:29:43 AM »
You better have those vouchers when you launch in India and UAE.